Ebony and Ivory, together in perfect harmony...

Mr. Whippy · **on:** July 27, 2009, 03:30:46 AM

All this LM vs Vic trash talk has gotta stop.

Today, the Espresso machine decided to go on vacation. Since replacing it would be painfully expensive, I started tearing into it with....wait for it....

my multitools.

It appeared to be a stuck solenoid valve. To remove the old one requires removing two 4mm hex head bolts. The LM Charge/Wave were at the wrong angle to torque them loose, BUT the Vic Cybertool bit driver was a perfect fit

. After freeing up the valve, it still wasn't flowing well, so I had to disassemble the brew head and clean it out. That requires a 5 mm hex head driver.

LM Charge to the rescue.

After disassembly, cleaning and reassembly, the Gaggia is working like new again.

Ebony and Ivory, together in perfect harmony...

RaptorMan · **Reply #1 on:** July 27, 2009, 03:57:46 AM

Good to hear...but now I have that damn song stuck in my head.

cliosguy · **Reply #2 on:** July 27, 2009, 04:20:14 AM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on July 27, 2009, 03:30:46 AM

All this LM vs Vic trash talk has gotta stop.

+1

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #3 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:06:03 AM

Quote from: cliosguy on July 27, 2009, 04:20:14 AM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on July 27, 2009, 03:30:46 AM
All this LM vs Vic trash talk has gotta stop.

+1

Where's the fun in that

kiwiblade · **Reply #4 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:53:44 AM

Quote from: RaptorMan on July 27, 2009, 03:57:46 AM

Good to hear...but now I have that damn song stuck in my head.

+1 only one thing left for it now

nuphoria · **Reply #5 on:** July 27, 2009, 02:26:42 PM

What shall we start trashing instead then?

ducktapehero · **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2009, 05:08:13 PM

I think the LM vs Vic debate is secretly started by the SOG or Gerber guys. I like arguing over silly stuff so I LOVE the debate.

rp252 · **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2009, 06:26:44 PM

Quote from: nuphoria on July 27, 2009, 02:26:42 PM

What shall we start trashing instead then?

The Welsh... No, the English... No, the French

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2009, 06:28:11 PM

Quote from: rp252 on July 27, 2009, 06:26:44 PM

Quote from: nuphoria on July 27, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
What shall we start trashing instead then?

The Welsh... No, the English... No, the French

How about bizarre pottery, and the odd folks that collect them

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2009, 06:52:05 PM

Quote from: rp252 on July 27, 2009, 06:26:44 PM

Quote from: nuphoria on July 27, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
What shall we start trashing instead then?

The Welsh... No, the English... No, the French

How about Belgians? They seem to get off pretty lightly. Heck, I doubt they had anything to with waffles at all!

cliosguy · **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2009, 06:59:56 PM

waffles

David Bowen · **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:29:09 PM

I thought Gerber was the black sheep around here?

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:33:29 PM

Quote from: David Bowen on July 27, 2009, 07:29:09 PM

I thought Gerber was the black sheep around here? (Image removed from quote.)

No, I think it's the Belgians.

Gareth · **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:34:56 PM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on July 27, 2009, 07:33:29 PM

Quote from: David Bowen on July 27, 2009, 07:29:09 PM
I thought Gerber was the black sheep around here? (Image removed from quote.)

No, I think it's the Belgians.

As a fan of all things Swiss I'm going to stay out of this.

rp252 · **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:29:36 PM

"There's only two things I can't stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures... and the Dutch"

Freudian Frog · **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:32:50 PM

We were debating? I though this was kind of like the whole Creationist argument where the Swiss guys kind of just ignore the Leatherman lovers because even giving in to argument would somewhat acknowledge that there is a debate to speak of... which there isn't.

Frankly I just use everything.

Benner · **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:45:44 PM

Quote from: rp252 on July 27, 2009, 09:29:36 PM

"There's only two things I can't stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures... and the Dutch"

rp252 · **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2009, 10:30:23 PM

Quote from: Benner on July 27, 2009, 09:45:44 PM

Quote from: rp252 on July 27, 2009, 09:29:36 PM
"There's only two things I can't stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures... and the Dutch"

Groovy Baby! Austin Powers FTW!

Ahem, now where were we

LM and Vic both create great tools. I EDC a mix of LM and Vic stuff (and now Gerber) and they compliment each other very well. Different companies will do certain things better than others, and people will have differing preferences. At the end of the day though, at the kind of level Vic and LM compete at, you're unlikely to get a truly poor a tool from either.

The banter is fun though

ducktapehero · **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2009, 11:04:53 PM

Quote from: rp252 on July 27, 2009, 09:29:36 PM

"There's only two things I can't stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures... and the Dutch"

That reminds me of something I said a couple of weeks ago.

I have this black friend named Dontay. He's got a great sense of humor. He was telling me about some racist guy and I told him "I hate racists, well that and black people"

He about wet himself laughing.

*Just for the record I'm not racist, I loathe racists*.

rp252 · **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2009, 11:10:09 PM

Quote from: ducktapehero on July 27, 2009, 11:04:53 PM

Quote from: rp252 on July 27, 2009, 09:29:36 PM
"There's only two things I can't stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures... and the Dutch"

That reminds me of something I said a couple of weeks ago.

I have this black friend named Dontay. He's got a great sense of humor. He was telling me about some racist guy and I told him "I hate racists, well that and black people"

He about wet himself laughing.

*Just for the record I'm not racist, I loathe racists*.

It doesn't make you sound racist mate. I say similar things; its about making fun of racism. Its such a nonsensical thing it deserves to be made fun of.

ducktapehero · **Reply #20 on:** July 27, 2009, 11:14:33 PM

Dontay and I were thinking about dressing up as a KKK member and a lynching victim for Halloween, the funny part was he was gonna wear the white sheets and I was gonna have the noose around my neck.

We decided against it though, although I love the Ozarks it has its share of racists. We figured someone would get pissed and shoot us.

J-sews · **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2009, 03:49:29 AM

Good on ya for taking the time to fix it Mr. Whip

So often these days folks just toss something in the bin and run to the store for a new one. $:-\$ Me, I find it particularly satisfying to tear something apart, figure out how it works, repair it, and then reassemble.

Sometimes it takes me half a day, but its worth it!

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