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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #30 on: September 23, 2009, 06:03:07 PM
could it be the same as LM's not being marked any more, something like the cant be sold in california if they say usa, but have parts from other countrys?

I thought that, but SOG are telling us that they are US made - they just stopped labelling the tools that way.
I have looked at a bunch of power locks none of them say usa, not that its that big of a deal, now if it said MADE IN ENGLAND I might back away !  just kidding.

I like made in England stuff.
Me too I was just seeing if I could get a rise out of some of the U.K. members!


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #31 on: September 23, 2009, 06:05:21 PM
We knew you were joking though, as everything made in the UK is simply amazing 8) :D :P
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #32 on: September 23, 2009, 06:13:20 PM
We knew you were joking though, as everything made in the UK is simply amazing 8) :D :P

You know Mike was born in the UK right?
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #33 on: September 23, 2009, 06:25:09 PM
We knew you were joking though, as everything made in the UK is simply amazing 8) :D :P

You know Mike was born in the UK right?

But where was he 'made' :o Actually do i really want to know the answer to that :ahhh
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #34 on: September 23, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
We knew you were joking though, as everything made in the UK is simply amazing 8) :D :P
Yeah like lucas electrical parts and amal carbs. :think:


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #35 on: September 23, 2009, 06:29:14 PM
We knew you were joking though, as everything made in the UK is simply amazing 8) :D :P

You know Mike was born in the UK right?

But where was he 'made' :o Actually do i really want to know the answer to that :ahhh
In my mummies tummy of course :angel:
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #36 on: September 23, 2009, 07:05:18 PM
The one thing I've learned to appreciate belonging to a few forums is I can differentiate the
difference between junk and quality.  It really doesn't matter to me if it's made in the USA,
JAPAN, TAIWAN, CHINA or elsewhere.
It's made where it's made and it sells for what it sells for.  It might be "made" in one Country. but
the "materials" are pulled from another.
Having a few tools and knives from different countries has made me realize it's
become less and less important where it came from.  :)

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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #37 on: September 23, 2009, 07:11:14 PM
Well said Sean!
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #38 on: September 23, 2009, 07:16:37 PM
+1 Sean.  :tu:
As long I'm satisfied with the purchase, point of origin doesn't matter...  :)


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #39 on: September 23, 2009, 07:23:44 PM
gerber is just bad and they were always bad , their american made tools are no worse than their chinese ones.. :S..

still hands down the victorinox is the best quality and  for its price  it has to be swiss made,

In your opinion, this is not fact. Please don't make sweeping statements like that as though they were fact. There are plenty of people on here who think Leatherman are better quality than Victorinox, and that Gerber do in fact make good tools. I've nothing against you having an opinion, but don't try and pass it off as fact :)

 
Well said  :tu:
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #40 on: September 24, 2009, 06:13:52 AM
The one thing I've learned to appreciate belonging to a few forums is I can differentiate the
difference between junk and quality.  It really doesn't matter to me if it's made in the USA,
JAPAN, TAIWAN, CHINA or elsewhere.
It's made where it's made and it sells for what it sells for.  It might be "made" in one Country. but
the "materials" are pulled from another.
Having a few tools and knives from different countries has made me realize it's
become less and less important where it came from.  :)

Sean

Well said Sean, it really doesn't matter where a product is made.  I would just like to see manufacturers be upfront about where their tools/components are made or sourced from.  If quality is there it wouldn't matter , we'd still buy their product.  Gerber fans are still fans regardless of the steel used, so why not stamp it on the blades and let us know.  Same with Sog , Leatherman and others.


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #41 on: September 24, 2009, 06:50:43 AM
Well said Sean, it really doesn't matter where a product is made.  I would just like to see manufacturers be upfront about where their tools/components are made or sourced from.  If quality is there it wouldn't matter , we'd still buy their product.  Gerber fans are still fans regardless of the steel used, so why not stamp it on the blades and let us know.  Same with Sog , Leatherman and others.

So lemme get this straight... they should spend more money with another machine process to tell you which country they outsourced their manufacturing to in order to reduce costs? :P

I don't disagree... but it makes no sense from their angle. Stamping blades with 420J2 ain't gonna make it sell. =P

Now as for releasing specifications... they should! >:(
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #42 on: September 24, 2009, 06:10:32 PM
Well said Sean, it really doesn't matter where a product is made.  I would just like to see manufacturers be upfront about where their tools/components are made or sourced from.  If quality is there it wouldn't matter , we'd still buy their product.  Gerber fans are still fans regardless of the steel used, so why not stamp it on the blades and let us know.  Same with Sog , Leatherman and others.

So lemme get this straight... they should spend more money with another machine process to tell you which country they outsourced their manufacturing to in order to reduce costs? :P

I don't disagree... but it makes no sense from their angle. Stamping blades with 420J2 ain't gonna make it sell. =P

Now as for releasing specifications... they should! >:(

In Gerber's case when their blades are made in the USA they certainly have no problems putting the steel type on the blade, package etc.. So why not make that information avialable on all their other products as well. It seems to me sometimes companies go out of their way to aviod letting you know the facts.  But it is also understandable that if its not the greatest steel or produced overseas why advertise it.


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #43 on: September 24, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
In Gerber's case when their blades are made in the USA they certainly have no problems putting the steel type on the blade, package etc.. So why not make that information avialable on all their other products as well. It seems to me sometimes companies go out of their way to aviod letting you know the facts.  But it is also understandable that if its not the greatest steel or produced overseas why advertise it.

I suspect that you are right that manufacturers are reluctant to state where tools / components are made. You only have to look back through this thread to see what preconceived, sweeping assumptions might do to their sales. ;)

Scenario: Tool manufacturer 'x' produces a new tool that incorporates innovative new technologies, made from high-end steel and built within very fine tolerances. It's a great tool! Even better than that, by manufacturing in China, they can offer the tool at a price that competes with Leatherman, Victorinox [insert your fav brand here], in fact, it's even a bit cheaper!

I suspect that some people wouldn't even give it a chance, because it ticks all the boxes for "POS". Chinese? Check. Cheap? Check.

My point being that if some of your components are imported, even if they aren't actually inferior, you might be reluctant to advertise that for fear of the short-sighted boycotting your product.
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #44 on: September 24, 2009, 07:41:00 PM
In Gerber's case when their blades are made in the USA they certainly have no problems putting the steel type on the blade, package etc.. So why not make that information avialable on all their other products as well. It seems to me sometimes companies go out of their way to aviod letting you know the facts.  But it is also understandable that if its not the greatest steel or produced overseas why advertise it.

If Gerber start to label their blade everyone of them would have "recycled pot metal" laser etched on it. I had a gerber folder and it couldn't even stay sharp for 30 minutes of light work cutting a cardboard or two, and vinyl sheets. They have a few 154cm and s30v blades, but also quite over priced compare to equal offerings from other companies.


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #45 on: September 24, 2009, 07:43:40 PM
In Gerber's case when their blades are made in the USA they certainly have no problems putting the steel type on the blade, package etc.. So why not make that information avialable on all their other products as well. It seems to me sometimes companies go out of their way to aviod letting you know the facts.  But it is also understandable that if its not the greatest steel or produced overseas why advertise it.

If Gerber start to label their blade everyone of them would have "recycled pot metal" laser etched on it. I had a gerber folder and it couldn't even stay sharp for 30 minutes of light work cutting a cardboard or two, and vinyl sheets. They have a few 154cm and s30v blades, but also quite over priced compare to equal offerings from other companies.

I suspect pot metal would be better than the 420 series most likely used (depending on the pots used)... :D
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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #46 on: September 24, 2009, 07:44:04 PM
In Gerber's case when their blades are made in the USA they certainly have no problems putting the steel type on the blade, package etc.. So why not make that information avialable on all their other products as well. It seems to me sometimes companies go out of their way to aviod letting you know the facts.  But it is also understandable that if its not the greatest steel or produced overseas why advertise it.

I suspect that you are right that manufacturers are reluctant to state where tools / components are made. You only have to look back through this thread to see what preconceived, sweeping assumptions might do to their sales. ;)

Scenario: Tool manufacturer 'x' produces a new tool that incorporates innovative new technologies, made from high-end steel and built within very fine tolerances. It's a great tool! Even better than that, by manufacturing in China, they can offer the tool at a price that competes with Leatherman, Victorinox [insert your fav brand here], in fact, it's even a bit cheaper!

I suspect that some people wouldn't even give it a chance, because it ticks all the boxes for "POS". Chinese? Check. Cheap? Check.

My point being that if some of your components are imported, even if they aren't actually inferior, you might be reluctant to advertise that for fear of the short-sighted boycotting your product.

As always Dave, another excellent point.  :salute:


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Re: sogs multitools made where??
Reply #47 on: September 25, 2009, 07:27:26 AM
I own about 15 sog tools and four knives. I love them. I keep a sog as a second multi often. I just think they may have parts made outside the US. the quality of their tools is still excellent.


 

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