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Swiss Kirpan Anyone?

Offline ringzero

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Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
on: September 30, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
Here's one for the hard core collectors of oddities:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/archive.html?siteSect=883&sid=5187784&ty=st

I'd never have expected that Victorinox once made a Kirpan.  Maybe a Vic Kukri will be available some day.

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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 09:39:08 PM
Here's one for the hard core collectors of oddities:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/archive.html?siteSect=883&sid=5187784&ty=st

I'd never have expected that Victorinox once made a Kirpan.  Maybe a Vic Kukri will be available some day.

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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 10:09:33 PM
Here's one for the hard core collectors of oddities:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/archive.html?siteSect=883&sid=5187784&ty=st

I'd never have expected that Victorinox once made a Kirpan.  Maybe a Vic Kukri will be available some day.

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I never knew that :)

Thanks for the link mate :tu:
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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 10:12:14 PM
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Prices will range from 1,360 rupees (SFr37) to 3,400 rupees, which is approximately 34 times the price of some local versions.

I can't see that go too well. Since it's not sharpened and not meant to be used, at least that's what the people bringing them to school here try to convince us.  ???


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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 12:34:25 AM
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Prices will range from 1,360 rupees (SFr37) to 3,400 rupees, which is approximately 34 times the price of some local versions.

I can't see that go too well. Since it's not sharpened and not meant to be used, at least that's what the people bringing them to school here try to convince us.  ???

Wouldn't be too sure of that - kirpans that I've examined have all been quite sharp.

The kirpan is a superb design for a fighting knife, one of the best martial blade patterns IMO.

Cold Steel used to make a version of the Kirpan which I always lusted after but never bought because of its price.

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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #5 on: October 01, 2009, 12:43:55 AM
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Prices will range from 1,360 rupees (SFr37) to 3,400 rupees, which is approximately 34 times the price of some local versions.

I can't see that go too well. Since it's not sharpened and not meant to be used, at least that's what the people bringing them to school here try to convince us.  ???

As I understand it, there are dull versions that are to be carried where a sharp knife would be considered inappropriate, but not all are.
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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 01:23:35 AM
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Prices will range from 1,360 rupees (SFr37) to 3,400 rupees, which is approximately 34 times the price of some local versions.

I can't see that go too well. Since it's not sharpened and not meant to be used, at least that's what the people bringing them to school here try to convince us.  ???

As I understand it, there are dull versions that are to be carried where a sharp knife would be considered inappropriate, but not all are.

Yeah, IIRC, aren't they supposed to be sharp to defend a third party from harm?


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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 01:26:08 AM
Hmm, I guess whoever said it's ceremonial is full of it them. Basically a while ago in Canada some people want their kids to bring kirpan to school, which prohibit weapon carry. They argued it's a religious object, not sharpened and would never be taken out of it's sheath, and the court allowed it (which I think is BS).

A few months later a kid pulled his kirpan out to threaten another kid with in school.  ::)

But still, 34 times the price, that's a bit steep.


us Offline Sazabi

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Reply #8 on: October 01, 2009, 01:39:22 AM
Hmm, I guess whoever said it's ceremonial is full of it them. Basically a while ago in Canada some people want their kids to bring kirpan to school, which prohibit weapon carry. They argued it's a religious object, not sharpened and would never be taken out of it's sheath, and the court allowed it (which I think is BS).

A few months later a kid pulled his kirpan out to threaten another kid with in school.  ::)

But still, 34 times the price, that's a bit steep.

Oh, I wasn't meaning to say it isn't a religious object; it is.  As far as I can remember, it's required by the religion, either sharpened (usually) or unsharpened (i.e. for schools, etc.), for the reasons I mentioned above.  In some places it's unsharpened and literally glued into the sheath. *nods*


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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 05:14:07 AM
So could you fly on an airplane with it?
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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #10 on: October 01, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Good question . Approved symbolic objects can substitute for the Kirpan . In Ontario jails Sikh inmates have a comb with inscriptions on it as a substitute . Recently I saw a Sikh woman carrying one .

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Re: Swiss Kirpan Anyone?
Reply #11 on: October 01, 2009, 06:09:13 PM
So could you fly on an airplane with it?

certainly not if you are checking in on london gatwick airport. those guys didn't let me take my umbrella on board, because they thought i could use it as a weapon and poke someone. in munich they were pretty relaxed ...


 

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