SOG PowerAssist EOD (Black Oxide)

[Vadim]

Hi guys! I have a question about SOG PowerAssist (Black Oxide),the Black Oxide is hard to scratch or not? Thanks. ( any pictures with Black Oxide very used MultiTool will be good)

[Witmen]

Hi guys! I have a question about SOG PowerAssist (Black Oxide),the Black Oxide is hard to scratch or not? Thanks. ( any pictures with Black Oxide very used MultiTool will be good)

The BO finish on SOGs is awesome.  I abuse my B60 and the result is a finish that is much better looking now then what it was new,  In my opinion the BO tools look good scratched and worn.  The finish stays on well but if you have metal to metal conctact it will scratch.  I do ductwork every now and then. and that puts a lot of little scratches on the tool.  But it's not like large areas of the finish have fallen off.

Do you plan on using the tool?  Will this be your first SOG MT?  Have you read all the reviews on the Powerassist?  Many don't like it including myself.  Good luck.

[Vadim]

Hi guys! I have a question about SOG PowerAssist (Black Oxide),the Black Oxide is hard to scratch or not? Thanks. ( any pictures with Black Oxide very used MultiTool will be good)

The BO finish on SOGs is awesome.  I abuse my B60 and the result is a finish that is much better looking now then what it was new,  In my opinion the BO tools look good scratched and worn.  The finish stays on well but if you have metal to metal conctact it will scratch.  I do ductwork every now and then. and that puts a lot of little scratches on the tool.  But it's not like large areas of the finish have fallen off.

Do you plan on using the tool?  Will this be your first SOG MT?  Have you read all the reviews on the Powerassist?  Many don't like it including myself.  Good luck.

I have a Surge Leatherman and SwissTool RS,wanna buy a SOG to try how it works.Whats wrong with Powerassist?And why many don't like it (including you)?

[Witmen]

I may I have worded that wrong. I shouldn't have said many don't like it.  I can only speak for myself and why I do not like it.

Main reason I don't like it is the assisted opening mechanism takes up the room of 4 Tools.  That's 4 tools gone for the ability to have two blades spring open.  Which is something that just isn't usefull.

SOG should have had made the two outside of the tool opening blades non assisted then we could have had 4 tools inside the handle and still have plenty fast access to the knife blades.  The assisted opening blades is just a un needed gimmick,  in my opinion.  Something SOG is in love with.


The other reason I don't care for it is all 3 of the ones I have in stock that I have checked have this problem.  http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,10495.0.html  

I sell tools and knives I've played with the powerassist a lot but never really used one.  Depending on your use habits and what you need from a tool it might be perfect for you. But I really think you and everyone else would be better off with a powerlock and the replacement straight edge.  

[Vadim]

I may I have worded that wrong. I shouldn't have said many don't like it.  I can only speak for myself and why I do not like it.

Main reason I don't like it is the assisted opening mechanism takes up the room of 4 Tools.  That's 4 tools gone for the ability to have two blades spring open.  Which is something that just isn't usefull.

SOG should have had made the two outside of the tool opening blades non assisted then we could have had 4 tools inside the handle and still have plenty fast access to the knife blades.  The assisted opening blades is just a un needed gimmick,  in my opinion.  Something SOG is in love with.


The other reason I don't care for it is all 3 of the ones I have in stock that I have checked have this problem.  http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,10495.0.html  

I sell tools and knives I've played with the powerassist a lot but never really used one.  Depending on your use habits and what you need from a tool it might be perfect for you. But I really think you and everyone else would be better off with a powerlock and the replacement straight edge.  

Thank you !

[Vadim]

OK,after so many research and reading about SOG I stop thinking to buy SOG product,and the reason is they almost all is made in Taiwan. No thank you,when I look at my SwissTool I see there Swiss Made,WOW!!!Sorry SOG,but I don't like Taiwan and China product,never........

[MattBernier]

It was a multitool you wanted though, wasn't it? SOG multis are made in the USA.

[DaveK]

Not that being made in the USA is any great guarantee of quality, of course.

You will experience no quality issues with a SOG made in Taiwan, you really don't need to make it an issue.

[Witmen]

From what I understand it is only the plier head that is now made out of the country,  last I heard everything else on a SOG multi tool was still made in America.

Oh and so you know the Taiwan made plier heads blow the American made away.  It's a much better design,  and from what I can tell the teeth on it last longer then the American one.  See I have a old as dirt B60 and it's had a couple of replacement heads and this last time I got the Taiwan version,  So far it has served me well. only thing that sucks about it is it don't say USA on it.

[Vadim]

Guys  I know , If  its  made in USA show me please where is it on MultiTools ,(newer model) ? I know that SOG is USA company and located in Lynnwood,WA its 25 miles from my house,BUT WHY they made their MultiTools (and not only,there is so many knives including Super SOG Bowie,which I so like,MADE IN TAIWAN !!!,and don't tell me about quality...) in TAIWAN ! Its just for me,guys,like I said before I don't like Taiwan and China product.

[Vadim]

Anyway,return to original post,I see  Power Assist have less tools than Powerlock,

[DaveK]

Its just for me,guys,like I said before I don't like Taiwan and China product.

Why?

[Vadim]

Its just for me,guys,like I said before I don't like Taiwan and China product.

Why?

Poor quality..

[Vadim]

And one more,thats what I find in this forum  :   "  Re: sogs multitools made where??
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 12:19:22 AM »   Quote

yeah , im quite sure that the whole tool line from sog is made in taiwan.. the quality is not really worse than 10 years ago, its  the machining that is different.. and you  can see it ,
the steel is still the same soft stuff.. and the grinding on the tools was never good.. leatherman is poor like that to but they have inproved a lot ..
i am not a fan of the design or quality of sogs , but i cant say it has changed for the worst.. the  pliers are totaly functional, the tools are soft, the knife on one i own is  45-48 rockwell only and is 420 stainless, it will be plunt after cutting through a heavy cardboard roll..  but ive had older sogs that had just as poor steel,
overall the tools are very solid in the plier department and you can put a good deal of force into the plier heard..
they havent realy reduced their priced after changing to producing in asia,, but that dosnt bother me if the tool is useable and the change is not to apparent,
gerber is just bad and they were always bad , their american made tools are no worse than their chinese ones.. :S..

the only thing i would like is honesty from sog, mark made in taiwan if it is made there.. dont just stop marking made in america.. 
id stil buy it if it was a good quality tool...
still hands down the victorinox is the best quality and  for its price  it has to be swiss made, if they started to make them in china and the quality was the same and so was the price,, i dont think i would buy one,, just because worker costs alone  must make up for 1/3 of the price of the tool .. at least.. and  such  a change could never be justified to the consumer without a price change..
with the sog.. hmm the price is fair , id rather like to see an improvement in the blade steel and in the grinding of the blades and tool finish,, as if theyer taiwanese or cinese made this  finishing work shouldnt add much to the cost.. "

[DaveK]

The quality of the US made SOGs, is no better than the imported stuff, in fact, Witmen has just told you that the imported stuff is better anyway 

[Vadim]

The quality of the US made SOGs, is no better than the imported stuff, in fact, Witmen has just told you that the imported stuff is better anyway

Imported stuff from China,Taiwan?   You guy is so funny ! I like this forum ! I so like MultiTools.org

[DaveK]

The quality of the US made SOGs, is no better than the imported stuff, in fact, Witmen has just told you that the imported stuff is better anyway 

Imported stuff from China,Taiwan?  You guy is so funny ! I like this forum !

I'm not being funny at all - just stating a simple truth.

I thought you were asking for opinions as you haven't actually got one of these tools, but maybe I was mistaken?

[Vadim]

The quality of the US made SOGs, is no better than the imported stuff, in fact, Witmen has just told you that the imported stuff is better anyway 

Imported stuff from China,Taiwan?  You guy is so funny ! I like this forum !

I'm not being funny at all - just stating a simple truth.

I thought you were asking for opinions as you haven't actually got one of these tools, but maybe I was mistaken?

The truth about what?How great is SOG MultiTool? If yes why so many people buy LM and SAK ? Honestly, I will now go to Lowe's and buy one ( Powerlock) and see all truth.

[DaveK]

The truth about what?

That the imported SOG tools are of equal quality to the US made ones. Wherever the tool is made won't affect the quality of it.

This is a simple truth.

[Vadim]

The truth about what?

That the imported SOG tools are of equal quality to the US made ones. Wherever the tool is made won't affect the quality of it.

This is a simple truth.

 

OK,Thank you.

[DaveK]

Although, I'm not entirely taken with the Powerassist as a tool........

[Vadim]

Although, I'm not entirely taken with the Powerassist as a tool........

Why,you think Powerlock much better? One is good that Powerassist have an outside open knives,but Powerlock have more tools....  

[DaveK]

To be honest, I don't rate either, but I'd probably take the Powerlock before the Powerassist.

But there's a whole load of Leatherman, Victorinox, Gerber, Bear and a few others I'd take before any SOG tbh. It's just a personal thing, but I find the compound leverage gears (even with eth new covers) quite uncomfortable. I know lot's of people don't agree and think SOGs are great though.

As I say, it's a personal thing The strength and quality of the SOG tools isn't an issue at all, just the comfort.

[Vadim]

Understand,thank you DaveK .

[MattBernier]

If you possibly can, you should hold everything in hand before you buy- ergonomics don't always work out like you'd think from photos. I'd love to own a Leatherman, for instance, but every one of their tools is a bad fit for my hands. I feel like I'm going to drop them. I have the same issue with Spyderco knives, they're well made but I can't open them or hold onto them very well. You can't very well use a tool if you can't hold it, so you should feel everything before you buy, if you can.

[DaveK]

That sounds like sound advice to me Matt.

What's your tool of choice then?

[Vadim]

If you possibly can, you should hold everything in hand before you buy- ergonomics don't always work out like you'd think from photos. I'd love to own a Leatherman, for instance, but every one of their tools is a bad fit for my hands. I feel like I'm going to drop them. I have the same issue with Spyderco knives, they're well made but I can't open them or hold onto them very well. You can't very well use a tool if you can't hold it, so you should feel everything before you buy, if you can.

Right,agree with you! Do you know they have  in Lynnwood a store? Great idea to hold everything   before buy.

[MattBernier]

An SOG ends up being my current choice. The force of the gears doesn't end up being so useful to me as another property of theirs, which is the smoothness and the delicacy of movement I can achieve with them, which combined with the new pointy tip makes the tool the best I know for the sort of fiddly work I often find myself needing to do. It's almost small enough to act as a hemostat at times.  And it just feels very secure in my hand in a way that leathermans don't.

If Victorinox ever released a multitool with a plier nose that small, I'd actually prefer that, but their pliers are just unusably beefy for my needs. But a victorinox WILL fit into my hand nicely, and the long shanks on their drivers is a pretty big plus.

[Vadim]

An SOG ends up being my current choice. The force of the gears doesn't end up being so useful to me as another property of theirs, which is the smoothness and the delicacy of movement I can achieve with them, which combined with the new pointy tip makes the tool the best I know for the sort of fiddly work I often find myself needing to do. It's almost small enough to act as a hemostat at times.  And it just feels very secure in my hand in a way that leathermans don't.

If Victorinox ever released a multitool with a plier nose that small, I'd actually prefer that, but their pliers are just unusably beefy for my needs. But a victorinox WILL fit into my hand nicely, and the long shanks on their drivers is a pretty big plus.

Yeah,I so like Victorinox SwissTool RS too,great quality,great design. Find this one,really nice and big,like big tools...    http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,802.0.html

[MattBernier]

I know, right? Those Paladin tools SOG makes make me wish I was an electrician just to justify getting one.