Color me impressed

[Swiss Man]

Lets keep this hush, hush you know to ourselves. I don't want those guys over in the Swiss forum to hear about this.

Okay now that you all swore I can tell you

I traded a Vic Spirit for a ST300 (quiet)

Ever since I saw those massive jaws in a banner here I wanted one and GG had one, since I never carried my Spirit a trade was made.

All I can say is OMG I loved the Super Tool when it first came out and I was a fan of Leatherman all the way up to the Wave (old school)
then after that I found a Swiss Tool and everything just fell short IMO.

I took this puppy out yesterday for a test drive and it handle wonderfully. Prying off hubcaps, cutting cables, tightening side post on a battery this thing was unstoppable.

I love the replaceable cutters (that just makes me feel good) that way if you mess them up you either repair them yourself or get a new set with allen wrench and screws included (ten dollars) or you do both and just have a spare set later.

Now what attracted me to the Swiss Tool was the "non clumping" of the tools but I will tell you what, today in 21 degree weather with no gloves on
I dropped my ST300 in the snow, shook it off and opened it and got my tools out with no problems (cold, wet hands and all).

I think Tim Leatherman did GOOD on this one...   Thanks to the ST300 I am a fan again.    Thanks for keeping my secret.

[Anthony]

The ST300 pulled me away from my Powerlock.  Leatherman is at the top of their game these days IMO with lots of sane concepts and models.

[MattBernier]

Wish they'd stick an old wave size pair of scissors in there. THEN I'd be happy.

[cliosguy]

The ST300 pulled me away from my Powerlock.  Leatherman is at the top of their game these days IMO with lots of sane concepts and models.

very true i find myself carrying the ST300 more an more

[Gareth]

TRAITOR!  

Na, glad you're liking it, I'm certainly looking forward to seeing one in the flesh at some point.  While my first LM was a Supertool that I loved, I was left a bit cold by the Core, so I'm not quite sure about the ST300 yet.

[MattBernier]

Actually, I wish they'd make the knife blades face the correct direction too. Why anybody builds a tool with blades facing the handles anymore ie beyond me.

[Swiss Man]

TRAITOR!  

Na, glad you're liking it, I'm certainly looking forward to seeing one in the flesh at some point.  While my first LM was a Supertool that I loved, I was left a bit cold by the Core, so I'm not quite sure about the ST300 yet.

Talk to Grant he likes you guys across the pond, maybe he will let you borrow it.

Actually, I wish they'd make the knife blades face the correct direction too. Why anybody builds a tool with blades facing the handles anymore ie beyond me.

The only way they could do that is to make the tools on the outside of the handle like Swiss Tool etc...

[DaveK]

Haha!

Good has triumphed over evil and all is right in the universe.........

The thing is with the ST300, and I recognised it within minutes of having it in my hand for the first time, is that it hasn't be put together to woo people or impress them with gimmicks or finesse. It's designed to be a workhorse, function over form.

It's actually quite an ugly thing IMO, but it's going to get the job done.

I'm glad you're liking it Swiss Man - good for you 

[Swiss Man]

Haha!

Good has triumphed over evil and all is right in the universe.........

The thing is with the ST300, and I recognised it within minutes of having it in my hand for the first time, is that it hasn't be put together to woo people or impress them with gimmicks or finesse. It's designed to be a workhorse, function over form.

It's actually quite an ugly thing IMO, but it's going to get the job done.

I'm glad you're liking it Swiss Man - good for you 

I agree,    but not to loud I don't want THOSE GUYS hearing us.

[nuphoria]

Stick some red cellidor scales on nit and no-one will know

[Poncho65]

Glad your liking it Swiss Man I carry mine everyday and it still has yet to fail me Just carry a small SAK with it for scissors and maybe the others will let it slide

[ryan1835]

i want to get one

but my charge seems to be doing everything fine

[Craig]

Stick some red cellidor scales on nit and no-one will know

 

[AHB]

Stick some red cellidor scales on nit and no-one will know

 

Except for the driver-thing.. 
Glad you like the ST300, Swiss Man.. 

[MattBernier]

TRAITOR!  

Na, glad you're liking it, I'm certainly looking forward to seeing one in the flesh at some point.  While my first LM was a Supertool that I loved, I was left a bit cold by the Core, so I'm not quite sure about the ST300 yet.

Talk to Grant he likes you guys across the pond, maybe he will let you borrow it.

Actually, I wish they'd make the knife blades face the correct direction too. Why anybody builds a tool with blades facing the handles anymore ie beyond me.

The only way they could do that is to make the tools on the outside of the handle like Swiss Tool etc...

That is precisely what I would like them to do. That and the old wave size scissors.

[DaveK]

Scissors, on a Supertool   Whaaaaaatttttt? Maybe we should have a nailfile and mascara brush in there too 

Scissors are for little, piddly, girly jobs.

The Supertool series is for big, strong, manly jobs !!!!!!

[AHB]

Scissors, on a Supertool   Whaaaaaatttttt? Maybe we should have a nailfile and mascara brush in there too 
Scissors are for little, piddly, girly jobs.
The Supertool series is for big, strong, manly jobs !!!!!!

[Poncho65]

Scissors, on a Supertool   Whaaaaaatttttt? Maybe we should have a nailfile and mascara brush in there too 
Scissors are for little, piddly, girly jobs.
The Supertool series is for big, strong, manly jobs !!!!!!

It's funny b4 I start carry a Supertool I wondered why they didn't have scissors as well But after carrying an original for over a year and now the 300 I can see why they don't Like u say it's for heavy duty jobs I carry a Vic Executive or a Micra when i want scissors

[Benner]

Scissors, on a Supertool   Whaaaaaatttttt? Maybe we should have a nailfile and mascara brush in there too 

Scissors are for little, piddly, girly jobs.

The Supertool series is for big, strong, manly jobs !!!!!!

Damn straight 

[DaveK]

Whatever is the world coming to, eh?

They'll be making multitools in pink next!!!  What's that?. Oh........

[MattBernier]

It's funny b4 I start carry a Supertool I wondered why they didn't have scissors as well But after carrying an original for over a year and now the 300 I can see why they don't Like u say it's for heavy duty jobs I carry a Vic Executive or a Micra when i want scissors
[/quote]

Sounds a lot like an ox- bulky and strong, but castrated and dependent on others. If I didn't mind carrying around a bunch of separate tools, I wouldn't need a multitool.

[David]

It's funny b4 I start carry a Supertool I wondered why they didn't have scissors as well But after carrying an original for over a year and now the 300 I can see why they don't Like u say it's for heavy duty jobs I carry a Vic Executive or a Micra when i want scissors

Sounds a lot like an ox- bulky and strong, but castrated and dependent on others. If I didn't mind carrying around a bunch of separate tools, I wouldn't need a multitool.
[/quote]

Lets see here we have the orginal SuperTool, ST 200, ST300. The SuperTool seems to have reproduced quite successfully. Many consider the Core part of that lineage also and if you consider the large tools that came into being to compete with it. I dont think the SuperTool has been castrated by a lack of scissors.   

[Poncho65]

It's funny b4 I start carry a Supertool I wondered why they didn't have scissors as well But after carrying an original for over a year and now the 300 I can see why they don't Like u say it's for heavy duty jobs I carry a Vic Executive or a Micra when i want scissors

Sounds a lot like an ox- bulky and strong, but castrated and dependent on others. If I didn't mind carrying around a bunch of separate tools, I wouldn't need a multitool.
[/quote]

I think scissors have there place just not a heavy duty tool if you want scissors get another tool in the LM like a Wave cause it sounds as though you wouldn't appreciate a ST300 for what it is

[Gareth]

Can I point out that the Surge has scissors?  It's not exactly a girly tool is it?*





*Before anyone says it, yes I know the Surge and the Supertool are aimed at slightly different tasks.

[MattBernier]

What I'd really like to see is a tool capable of handling the greatest spetctrum of tasks. The supertool has a lot of things that I wish the Wave still had, like nice, long shanked drivers, for instance. And I'd like to have the strongest possible plier head in pretty much any circumstance. The supertool already has tools meant for more fiddly and "girly" tasks, like the can opener and the awl with sewing hole. Scissors- nice, large scissors- would round out the tool's capabilities and make it essentially a hulked-out version of the Swisstool X. It seems like multitool manufactureres have decided that tools either will be dedicatedly beefy or dedicatedly minute, but what I'd really like is a tool that spans the two.

It's frustrating how close Leatherman and SOG both are to doing that. Make the tools outside accessible and add scissors to a supertool and suddenly you have the most versatile, robust multitool on the market. Make the tools outside accessible on a Powerlock and ditch those ridiculous covers and you have the same thing. Are people really that into having to carry two tools when it would be so easy to correct these inadequacies in one tool?

[Benner]

Can I point out that the Surge has scissors?  It's not exactly a girly tool is it?*





*Before anyone says it, yes I know the Surge and the Supertool are aimed at slightly different tasks.

Yep, girly and rattly actually. 

[Poncho65]

Are people really that into having to carry two tools

You apparently don't read the threads much 2 alot here carry more than that I carry 1 sometimes but most of the time I carry 2 or more not to be difficult but because I like to carry different tools for different things

 

Man I love the ST300

[AHB]

A Multitool and a Vic Classic on the keys and you're ready to go...   

[DaveK]

What I'd really like to see is a tool capable of handling the greatest spetctrum of tasks. The supertool has a lot of things that I wish the Wave still had, like nice, long shanked drivers, for instance. And I'd like to have the strongest possible plier head in pretty much any circumstance. The supertool already has tools meant for more fiddly and "girly" tasks, like the can opener and the awl with sewing hole. Scissors- nice, large scissors- would round out the tool's capabilities and make it essentially a hulked-out version of the Swisstool X. It seems like multitool manufactureres have decided that tools either will be dedicatedly beefy or dedicatedly minute, but what I'd really like is a tool that spans the two.

It's frustrating how close Leatherman and SOG both are to doing that. Make the tools outside accessible and add scissors to a supertool and suddenly you have the most versatile, robust multitool on the market. Make the tools outside accessible on a Powerlock and ditch those ridiculous covers and you have the same thing. Are people really that into having to carry two tools when it would be so easy to correct these inadequacies in one tool?

I see your point - but I have a good answer!

I actually don't see the Supertool(s), Surge, Swisstool, Powerlock etc as tools that you actually would carry tbh. I think they're too big.

Of the "big boys" - I have a Swisstool in the car, and heh, one or two big tools in the house, but I wouldn't EDC them - too big and heavy.

[MattBernier]

It's weird, because I'm a pretty small guy, but I'm one of those people who can carry stuff on my belt or in a backpack and the weight will disappear for me. I EDC a SwisstoolX, and I forget it's on me most of the time. I DO realize I'm way in the minority on this.

I'm actually very satisfied with the Swisstool, but as a US citizen I'd love to have a US made tool that satisfied me as well as it does.

I will say this for the Supertool 300 though: I'm one of those who finds the new wave and charge designs awkward in the hand because of the blade holes sticking out, and the new supertool feels much better.