How many layers does a Compact have?

Fisting_Chili · **on:** March 01, 2010, 09:32:37 PM

Also, which model has that phillips screwdriver you can slide a piece of paper through? Lastly, which 2 layer Victorinox has some weird scraper tool next to the big blade? looks kinda of like a straight razor but with a wavy edge?
Thanks

jazzbass · **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2010, 09:42:45 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 09:32:37 PM

Also, which model has that phillips screwdriver you can slide a piece of paper through? Lastly, which 2 layer Victorinox has some weird scraper tool next to the big blade? looks kinda of like a straight razor but with a wavy edge?
Thanks

Answers in order:

1. Compact has two layers
2. Lots. Any model with a phillips from c. 1974 to c. 1991. They were squared off until c. 1981, then round.
3. Need pics. Sounds like a pruning blade.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2010, 09:43:12 PM

The compact's has just got the two layers

And the scrapper thingy I think your talking about is from the Electrician mate

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:02:06 PM

Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 01, 2010, 09:43:12 PM

The compact's has just got the two layers

And the scrapper thingy I think your talking about is from the Electrician mate

Not an electrician...at least not the pics I googled. SAKwiki is not coming up for me...argh!! The scraper thing i looks like along blade when closed, but when you pull it out, it has this thing on the end, about 1/4-1/2" long that looks like a mini serrated edged cleaver....LOL. sorry...camera is charging.

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:05:02 PM

Quote from: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 09:42:45 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
Also, which model has that phillips screwdriver you can slide a piece of paper through? Lastly, which 2 layer Victorinox has some weird scraper tool next to the big blade? looks kinda of like a straight razor but with a wavy edge?
Thanks

Answers in order:

1. Compact has two layers
2. Lots. Any model with a phillips from c. 1974 to c. 1991. They were squared off until c. 1981, then round.
3. Need pics. Sounds like a pruning blade.

Not a pruning blade either. blade part is only about 1/4/ to 1/2" tip of the tool that pulls out though full length is about 1 1/2" long. camera is charging, sorry!

As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip? Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:06:46 PM

Can you post a link to it mate?

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:07:52 PM

Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 01, 2010, 10:06:46 PM

Can you post a link to it mate?

Hehe, not really...its in my hand. LOL!
Camera died or I'd upload a pic.

thebullfrog · **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:09:12 PM

Sounds like the orange peeler to me

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:11:49 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:09:12 PM

Sounds like the orange peeler to me

bullseye! Thank you! Here is a link to what it looks like...sorry my descriptions sucked so bad...
http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Victorinox-Peeler-Exec.htm

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:13:48 PM

Ok, got it...it is the Executive

thebullfrog · **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:14:31 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:11:49 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:09:12 PM
Sounds like the orange peeler to me

bullseye! Thank you! Here is a link to what it looks like...sorry my descriptions sucked so bad...
http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Victorinox-Peeler-Exec.htm

I put up a post about that very same implement when I saw Macgyver use it in an episode, so I know how hard it is to describe lol.

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:15:30 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:14:31 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:09:12 PM
Sounds like the orange peeler to me

bullseye! Thank you! Here is a link to what it looks like...sorry my descriptions sucked so bad...
http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Victorinox-Peeler-Exec.htm

I put up a post about that very same implement when I saw Macgyver use it in an episode, so I know how hard it is to describe lol.

Fricken Macgyver...figures he'd find a way to use it! Thanks again

jazzbass · **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:15:53 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:05:02 PM

As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip? Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

It's not a model thing, it's a time period thing. ALL backspring phillips from Victorinox has the split phillips head from 1974 until 1991. I have Champions, Hikers, SuperTinkers, Saleman, Tinkers, Fishermen, Craftsmen and Master Craftsmen all with the split phillips.

One day you're going to learn to trust me on these things

thebullfrog · **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:17:42 PM

Split Phillips? I have never heard of such a thing. Any pics? Sounds interesting

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:19:54 PM

Quote from: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 10:15:53 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip? Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

It's not a model thing, it's a time period thing. ALL backspring phillips from Victorinox has the split phillips head from 1974 until 1991. I have Champions, Hikers, SuperTinkers, Saleman, Tinkers, Fishermen, Craftsmen and Master Craftsmen all with the split phillips.

One day you're going to learn to trust me on these things

Hahaha, just slap me now. Sorry buddy

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:24:24 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:17:42 PM

Split Phillips? I have never heard of such a thing. Any pics? Sounds interesting

Here you go...camera charged enough juice for this

thebullfrog · **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:29:49 PM

Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:30:15 PM

How about a blade like this on a Wenger?

Finding all kinds of unusual ones looking for parts for a couple people here

stressmaster5000 · **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:31:00 PM

That's an old style can opener on those Wengers.

What you should be doing is open up the "Tools" link on the SAKWicki,http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List

There are 2 tool description tables right there for both Manufacturers although they do not include everything.

Also click on the "Knife Blades" link http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade
to see different photos of various blades of the Victorinox side. The Wenger side has no photos at all.

Another thing is to click on the various Tool Image Galeries from the "Tools" link. There are different galleries for each different size and manufacturer of knife.

jazzbass · **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:32:47 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:29:49 PM

Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It's called the "can-key". It was designed to open tin canned food like SPAM.

jazzbass · **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:34:43 PM

Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:19:54 PM

Quote from: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip? Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

It's not a model thing, it's a time period thing. ALL backspring phillips from Victorinox has the split phillips head from 1974 until 1991. I have Champions, Hikers, SuperTinkers, Saleman, Tinkers, Fishermen, Craftsmen and Master Craftsmen all with the split phillips.

One day you're going to learn to trust me on these things

Hahaha, just slap me now. Sorry buddy

No worries. Looks like a Tinker or Tinker Small from 82-85 (if the awl is solid) or 86-90 (if the awl has a hole in it).

Swiss Man · **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:35:08 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:29:49 PM

Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It is a "can key" I remember ( shows how old I am) that some food can came with a little key attached to the bottom.

Pulled the key off slip it into the little metal tap and twist off the seal letting you open the can.

I will try to find a pic. somewhere.

thebullfrog · **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:36:29 PM

Ah! That actually makes a lot of sense

thebullfrog · **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:37:20 PM

Quote from: Swiss Man on March 01, 2010, 10:35:08 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:29:49 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It is a "can key" I remember ( shows how old I am) that some food can came with a little key attached to the bottom.

Pulled the key off slip it into the little metal tap and twist off the seal letting you open the can.

I will try to find a pic. somewhere.

Nah I get it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

stressmaster5000 · **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:41:14 PM

Here are some pics of the can key in action.....................

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:41:32 PM

Quote from: stressmaster5000 on March 01, 2010, 10:31:00 PM

That's an old style can opener on those Wengers.

What you should be doing is open up the "Tools" link on the SAKWicki,http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List

There are 2 tool description tables right there for both Manufacturers although they do not include everything.

Also click on the "Knife Blades" link http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade
to see different photos of various blades of the Victorinox side. The Wenger side has no photos at all.

Another thing is to click on the various Tool Image Galeries from the "Tools" link. There are different galleries for each different size and manufacturer of knife.

Is SAKwiki coming up for you? it is not for me...says problem loading page. I tried there first, but thanks...once i can pull it up, those links will be very handy!

Fisting_Chili · **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:42:19 PM

Quote from: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 10:32:47 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:29:49 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It's called the "can-key". It was designed to open tin canned food like SPAM.

SWEET! I'm Hawaiian....we LOVE Spam!

thebullfrog · **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:49:27 PM

That's actually really cool. Obviously next to useless these days, last time I saw a can like that I was like 12, but very cool. Gotta love some of the stuff Vic comes up with.

How much did having that split in there weaken the driver though? Seems like I could see that being able to twist/bend at the end pretty easy if you torqued on it too hard.