THAT Lansky tool is a generic multitool; they either paid a sourcing agent to procure it or licensed their brand to someone like Alltrade. I seriously doubt anyone from Lansky has ever set foot inside that Chinese factory. I LIVE in Yangjiang, China about 4 months out of the year to watch over production; rarely do I see any Americans, and if I do, they are there for 1-2 days max. Can't blame em, it's a sh*thole city, not even a McDonalds.Like the other poster mentioned, this seems to be a Chinese supplier issue, selling unauthorized versions, maybe even ones that failed QC inspection. But the notion some factory would invest in all that tooling to make some replicas to sell on eBay (how else are they going to sell them?) is very naive.Take a close look at the fasteners on the "fake" Gerber and see how they resemble these other tools the seller posted? someone is dipping in the same parts pin if u ask me.I haven't compared closely against the Carolina stuff coming out of China nut it wouldn't shock me if these "Gerbers" were coming out the backdoor.Just my $.02
That "fake" Gerber is def unauthorized I'm just suggesting that the source of the problem probably has ties to Gerber's Chinese supplier network.
Also, just to clarify, I'm a merely offering an informed opinion (hopefully); I don't have any hard evidence in this case. But then again, solving their headaches isn't part of MY job description.
Now...do you think I can sell these on ebay if I list them as Gerber fakes???
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Mine is a real Lansky. I checked Lansky’s official site when I bought it and it matched.That tool is generic. All those examples are basically the same tool made by the same factory, with different cosmetics specific to the buyer.
That is because that middle one is what the seller is selling as a Gerber...which it isn't. I bought that one somewhere in town for a song and a dance. It wasn't pretending to be anything other then what it is. The Lansky is real, and was in the right packaging and all. I got that one from the local gun shop. The other is another version of the same tool. It is a very common type of tool that can be found with plenty of cosmetic variations. The tools inside of these are all the same though.That seller is using the middle cheap tool and trying to tell people it is a Gerber. If you don't know what your looking for, some unsuspecting person might think it is a Suspension or some other like shaped Gerber.Seeing that eBay hasn't done anything to this guy, it looks like they are quite happy in getting their fees from him above making the um....er...."eBay experience" a safe one for buyers.
This is highly likely an example of why you have to really watch what is happening with overseas production. It can happen with any outsourced production, but overseas where you are not there watching, it can really show up. There have been companies ruined by the clones that rolled off of unsupervised lines. They transferred the technology and were transferred out of business.It is just too easy when there is no one around to walk the product out of the back door. If nothing happens then it just gets worse until you see your product sitting at half price next to your official one. Then they say sorry and go on to the next sucker.This is not a Xenophopic chant, I have seen good stuff done off shore or by contract, honestly, but usually to get it, you pay a premium to get it, have your people there and on a first name basis with the company, and/or own the plant. When outsourcing, it is very much buyer beware and requires more effort than most companies realize. It is not just the MBA attitude, lets get of that troublesome, dirty plant and rake in the dough, it is harder work wth the travel as running that dirty, troublesome plant or you end up in a process that starts with Chapter and ends with 11 or 7.My vote goes for this one walked out the back door.
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That is an MP400, which is smaller than the MP600 line. Comparing the fake 600 D.E.T. to a smaller tool makes no sense when the fake is the same size as the real 600.
Different plier head mold though. And different handle stamping dies. And different blades. And different slide lock releases.
No they aren't. The tools have subtle differences, even to the genuine MP 600. There is a slight difference in shapes, etc. Definitely in thickness. They are thinner than any Geber tool found on the 400/600 line.MultiMat, if you look closely on yours, you will also note that the fasteners are not exact either. Bloody close, but they do not match my other MP 600s.Yeah, it is a good fake. Surprisingly well made at that considering its lack of a pedigree.
Quote from: Chako on March 27, 2010, 01:25:16 AMNo they aren't. The tools have subtle differences, even to the genuine MP 600. There is a slight difference in shapes, etc. Definitely in thickness. They are thinner than any Geber tool found on the 400/600 line.MultiMat, if you look closely on yours, you will also note that the fasteners are not exact either. Bloody close, but they do not match my other MP 600s.Yeah, it is a good fake. Surprisingly well made at that considering its lack of a pedigree.Agreed. Everything is close. But nothing is exactly the same.
Quote from: J-sews on March 27, 2010, 01:10:38 AMDifferent plier head mold though. And different handle stamping dies. And different blades. And different slide lock releases.OK one thing is clear than , I am a complete fool