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Best Torch for Self Defence?

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #30 on: March 04, 2010, 11:51:29 PM
Best torch for self-defense, a Mag 3D or 4D with the appropriate bezel.........







.........modified 3D Mag's with KIU stainless bezels!

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #31 on: March 05, 2010, 04:18:59 AM
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #32 on: March 05, 2010, 04:58:20 AM
I seeee you!  :P

Indianapolis Colts T-shirt? hard to see, but I think thats it.

Also those look like the maglite king and queen.


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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #33 on: March 05, 2010, 07:47:01 AM
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #34 on: March 05, 2010, 01:14:54 PM
Best torch for self-defense, a Mag 3D or 4D with the appropriate bezel.........

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.........modified 3D Mag's with KIU stainless bezels!

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In a lot of hoods , those are good for a trip downtown if worn on the streets . Kinda like carrying a short length of 2x4 with a nail in it . You might beat the rap , but you can't beat the ride !

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #35 on: March 05, 2010, 08:15:44 PM
Just my two penith worth (UK slant)

Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end.  that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)

Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm.  Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!

Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.

Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!


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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #36 on: March 05, 2010, 08:46:22 PM
But couldn't you say you were holding the thing a bulb end and therefore hitting some one with the but in one fluid motion. :D

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #37 on: March 05, 2010, 10:07:50 PM
I think most people here have far better things to defend themselves with at home  :)
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #38 on: March 05, 2010, 10:24:50 PM
Just my two penith worth (UK slant)

Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end.  that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)

Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm.  Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!

Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.

Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!

In your home these days I wouldn't sweat it.  The days of being "done" for protecting yourself and your family from those who invade your property are pretty much over (thank goodness).  Though apparently if they make a run for it, choosing to chase after them and continue beating the crap out of them is still considered bad form (legally at any rate :D ).
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #39 on: March 05, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
That was in High Wycombe
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #40 on: March 05, 2010, 10:30:39 PM
Just my two penith worth (UK slant)

Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end.  that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)

Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm.  Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!

Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.

Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!

In your home these days I wouldn't sweat it.  The days of being "done" for protecting yourself and your family from those who invade your property are pretty much over (thank goodness).  Though apparently if they make a run for it, choosing to chase after them and continue beating the crap out of them is still considered bad form (legally at any rate :D ).

When /if you persue you are no longer in danger , ergo no self/third party defence . If the guy was Atilla the Hun , and had just waxed a whole village , you just might be able to argue mortal peril to third parties - otherwise you be screwed .

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #41 on: March 05, 2010, 11:16:58 PM
Just my two penith worth (UK slant)

Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end.  that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)

Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm.  Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!

Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.

Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!

In your home these days I wouldn't sweat it.  The days of being "done" for protecting yourself and your family from those who invade your property are pretty much over (thank goodness).  Though apparently if they make a run for it, choosing to chase after them and continue beating the crap out of them is still considered bad form (legally at any rate :D ).

When /if you persue you are no longer in danger , ergo no self/third party defence . If the guy was Atilla the Hun , and had just waxed a whole village , you just might be able to argue mortal peril to third parties - otherwise you be screwed .

Chris

well, exactly, running through guy with samurai sword that is coming towards you or stealing your stuff = OK, running through guy with samurai sword that is running away = bad.
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #42 on: March 05, 2010, 11:18:34 PM
Just my two penith worth (UK slant)

Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end.  that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)

Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm.  Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!

Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.

Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!

In your home these days I wouldn't sweat it.  The days of being "done" for protecting yourself and your family from those who invade your property are pretty much over (thank goodness).  Though apparently if they make a run for it, choosing to chase after them and continue beating the crap out of them is still considered bad form (legally at any rate :D ).

When /if you persue you are no longer in danger , ergo no self/third party defence . If the guy was Atilla the Hun , and had just waxed a whole village , you just might be able to argue mortal peril to third parties - otherwise you be screwed .

Chris
Sadly it's true you can't run after them, as I got told of by a copper for doing the self same thing to a prospective burglar ::)

In my defence he never actually got to the end of the garden before I caught him :D
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #43 on: March 06, 2010, 05:34:43 AM
I seeee you!  :P

Indianapolis Colts T-shirt? hard to see, but I think thats it.

Also those look like the maglite king and queen.

Yup, I'm a Indy fan......it's a Colts T.

Never thought of it before but yeah, they do look that way.

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #44 on: March 06, 2010, 10:05:38 AM

In my defence he never actually got to the end of the garden before I caught him :D

Did he fall and bang his head on a gnome a couple of times while fleeing your house?  :D
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #45 on: March 06, 2010, 12:01:57 PM

In my defence he never actually got to the end of the garden before I caught him :D

Did he fall and bang his head on a gnome a couple of times while fleeing your house?  :D
Something like that ;)

Bugger's were going to caution me because of it ::)
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #46 on: March 06, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
Threads like this make me  :rofl:

Then  :think:

Then   :rant:

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #47 on: March 06, 2010, 12:10:20 PM
Meh I got away with it, and no bugger tried it on again, so it was a bit of a feel good end :D
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #48 on: March 07, 2010, 01:30:28 PM
Another handy item I like to carry is a Surefire 4 cell battery carrier , with the nylon cord set up properly , it makes a Lulu of a slung shot ( not sling shot ) , swung underhand or overhand it will cause lotts of damage . Slung shots are nasty old weapons beloved by sailors in the days of wooden ships and iron men , google them - they were nasty items .

Most of the uniformed babies on the streets nowadays wouldn't recognize one if it bit them on the arse .

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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #49 on: March 07, 2010, 02:41:32 PM
Not a bad idea that ;)
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #50 on: March 07, 2010, 11:19:51 PM
Another handy item I like to carry is a Surefire 4 cell battery carrier , with the nylon cord set up properly , it makes a Lulu of a slung shot ( not sling shot ) , swung underhand or overhand it will cause lotts of damage . Slung shots are nasty old weapons beloved by sailors in the days of wooden ships and iron men , google them - they were nasty items .

Most of the uniformed babies on the streets nowadays wouldn't recognize one if it bit them on the arse .

Chris

you just convinced me to attach a nice long lanyard to my flashlight, in case I drop it of course  ;)

I imagine the technique is somewhat like Nunchaku?
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #51 on: April 10, 2010, 07:11:38 PM
Mike no offence but in a fight trying to restrain someone? Wouldn't it be easier just to hammer fist the smurf :D
I have used the L2D while on the doors for restraint and control techniques and yeah works well.

I think I would have the upper hand if I had my TK10 on turbo mode :) Especially with the bezel  :D
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #52 on: April 10, 2010, 07:38:27 PM
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Oh, wait... forgot about you Brits' silly English... :D
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #53 on: April 10, 2010, 10:44:19 PM
Mike no offence but in a fight trying to restrain someone? Wouldn't it be easier just to hammer fist the smurf :D
I have used the L2D while on the doors for restraint and control techniques and yeah works well.

I think I would have the upper hand if I had my TK10 on turbo mode :) Especially with the bezel  :D

The restraint comes later ;)
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Reply #54 on: April 10, 2010, 10:44:39 PM
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Oh, wait... forgot about you Brits' silly English... :D
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Re: Best Torch for Self Defence?
Reply #55 on: April 10, 2010, 11:10:49 PM
Mike no offence but in a fight trying to restrain someone? Wouldn't it be easier just to hammer fist the smurf :D
I have used the L2D while on the doors for restraint and control techniques and yeah works well.

I think I would have the upper hand if I had my TK10 on turbo mode :) Especially with the bezel  :D

The restraint comes later ;)
never thought of that mate lmao
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