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Best torch for self-defense, a Mag 3D or 4D with the appropriate bezel.........(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.).........modified 3D Mag's with KIU stainless bezels!2xTap
Just my two penith worth (UK slant)Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end. that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm. Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!
Quote from: furry on March 05, 2010, 08:15:44 PMJust my two penith worth (UK slant)Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end. that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm. Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!In your home these days I wouldn't sweat it. The days of being "done" for protecting yourself and your family from those who invade your property are pretty much over (thank goodness). Though apparently if they make a run for it, choosing to chase after them and continue beating the crap out of them is still considered bad form (legally at any rate ).
Quote from: Neil on March 05, 2010, 10:24:50 PMQuote from: furry on March 05, 2010, 08:15:44 PMJust my two penith worth (UK slant)Home: Big maglight - make sure you 'defend' your self with the bulb end. that way it counts as lashing out in defence; if you hit with the butt (battery end), it could be seen as you've made a concious decision (mong spelling!) to turn the torch round and 'use it as a weapon'! bonkers i know, but that is the pants law we have; protect the guilty (rant off!)Street: suitably bright torch the size of your palm. Wait untill the assailent gets close enough, but out of range of a strike weapon (knife, bottle, pointy stick (monty python like)), click on light in face to disorientate, 'lash out' (foot in goolies) and run away with the speed of a thousand gazelles!!!Just my set up and having grown up in east london, the 'street' one has worked a number of times with no repercussions.Note. this is not legal guidance, just what i do!In your home these days I wouldn't sweat it. The days of being "done" for protecting yourself and your family from those who invade your property are pretty much over (thank goodness). Though apparently if they make a run for it, choosing to chase after them and continue beating the crap out of them is still considered bad form (legally at any rate ).When /if you persue you are no longer in danger , ergo no self/third party defence . If the guy was Atilla the Hun , and had just waxed a whole village , you just might be able to argue mortal peril to third parties - otherwise you be screwed .Chris
Quote from: NutSAK on March 05, 2010, 04:18:59 AMI seeee you! Indianapolis Colts T-shirt? hard to see, but I think thats it.Also those look like the maglite king and queen.
In my defence he never actually got to the end of the garden before I caught him
Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 05, 2010, 11:18:34 PMIn my defence he never actually got to the end of the garden before I caught him Did he fall and bang his head on a gnome a couple of times while fleeing your house?
Another handy item I like to carry is a Surefire 4 cell battery carrier , with the nylon cord set up properly , it makes a Lulu of a slung shot ( not sling shot ) , swung underhand or overhand it will cause lotts of damage . Slung shots are nasty old weapons beloved by sailors in the days of wooden ships and iron men , google them - they were nasty items .Most of the uniformed babies on the streets nowadays wouldn't recognize one if it bit them on the arse .Chris
Mike no offence but in a fight trying to restrain someone? Wouldn't it be easier just to hammer fist the smurf I have used the L2D while on the doors for restraint and control techniques and yeah works well. I think I would have the upper hand if I had my TK10 on turbo mode Especially with the bezel
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Quote from: JohnD on April 10, 2010, 07:11:38 PMMike no offence but in a fight trying to restrain someone? Wouldn't it be easier just to hammer fist the smurf I have used the L2D while on the doors for restraint and control techniques and yeah works well. I think I would have the upper hand if I had my TK10 on turbo mode Especially with the bezel The restraint comes later