Design a SAK

[ufox9al]

An alox model with a main blade, an awl, a saw, a seatbelt cutter/serrated blade (like on the SH), and the can opener and bottle opener for outdoors...

Sounds like you and Leatherman 123 should lobby Roger (SwissBianco) to do alox scales on Vic Fireman - he is currently planning on doing them on OHT, but I like the Alox Firman idea alot!

[Sea Monster]

Quick Quiz - SAK Pocket Clips?

For Alox models (thus not having the spaces from Toothpick or Tweezers)

[scibeer]

Alox SAK clips are good.    I have an electrician that is a great carry with the clip.

[Sea Monster]

Oh, so they exist already?

how do I get one?

or did you just tap that straight into the Alox?

Does the combination of metals not cause DANGER?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Oh, so they exist already?

how do I get one?

or did you just tap that straight into the Alox?

Does the combination of metals not cause DANGER?

I think Bill made them mate

[Sea Monster]

I think Bill made them mate

Now he just has to tell me how.

Where'd you get the Clips from?

Anything I need to know before I take drill to my Pioneer?

[NutSAK]

Oh, so they exist already?

how do I get one?

or did you just tap that straight into the Alox?

Does the combination of metals not cause DANGER?

I think Bill made them mate

I think he orders those from knifekits.com and taps threaded holes into the ALOX for the screws.

[Sea Monster]

To knifekits.com it is then.

I'm trying to think of another question so a third person can answer it with how they think Bill might.

[NutSAK]

To knifekits.com it is then.

I'm trying to think of another question so a third person can answer it with how they think Bill might.

Bill isn't here very often, so I thought I would help keep you from suffering the wait.  If you would like the answer straight from the horses mouth, you can wait or contact him on knifeforums.com.

[Grant Lamontagne]

There are lots of articles on SOSAKOnline on modding.  Here's a link to Bill's most recent How To:

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=220&Itemid=35

Def

[scibeer]

Sorry man, ducked out for a while!   

Yes, everyone is right.    Knifekits.com for the clips.    The scales are easy to tap, but you will have a hard time getting the tap all the way through if you want to put the clip where I put it. 

You will end up hitting blades and backsprings drilling if you're not careful.     I drilled the scales out as deep as possible without hitting stainless anywhere, then tapped the first 2/3 of the hole.    The regular tap is tapered at the end and the tip is pointy to help pilot the tap.    This point will hit the bottom of the hole before the full length is tapped so be careful.    As soon as it bottoms you have about 1/8 of a turn before you rip the threads you just cut, or worse yet, break the tap in the hole.   

Once you get this far, you use one of the many broken taps from previous disasters to finish.   I ground the tapered part of the broken tap off so I was at the full sized part of the tap, then ground the tip flat.   After running the first threads, I switch to the flat one to cut the rest.    T

Try to make sure you don't bend a little of the alox into the baldes and backsprings.    That will booger things up and you'll have to sit there and open and close the blade until it contorts back before putting your screws in.

I use 2-56 button head screws and a little blue locktite and they stay on nicely.   Since its aluminium, I like to start with 1 size smaller drill bit than standard for the pilot holes so I get nice full threads.  I think its a #52 if I remember right.

[NutSAK]

As soon as it bottoms you have about 1/8 of a turn before you rip the threads you just cut, or worse yet, break the tap in the hole.

Thanks for the detailed instructions!  Surely a tap wouldn't break before you ripped the threads out of the softer ALOX, would it?

[Sea Monster]

Thanks for the detailed instructions!  Surely a tap wouldn't break before you ripped the threads out of the softer ALOX, would it?

I've broken enough Taps not to ask questions now.

I've got some fairly ssmurfy HSS taps, but I need clips before I start making holes.

[scibeer]

Thanks for the detailed instructions!  Surely a tap wouldn't break before you ripped the threads out of the softer ALOX, would it?

I've broken enough Taps not to ask questions now.

I've got some fairly ssmurfy HSS taps, but I need clips before I start making holes.

You're right Terry, the threads would strip if it was just the alox.    When you tap these knives, you end up VERY close to the backsprings.   On the OHT's (yours included) to get the clip as high as possible you end up in the bend of one of the backsprings and when you thread the tap in, its easy to get so close that the tap starts to bind against the backspring.   Once it starts wedging itself in there, it flexes and can break really easily.     My personal OHT is clipless, but has the holes for a clip except one of them has a piece of tap in it!   Now that I think about it, that's pretty much how I get all my keepers.   Something goes a little wrong and bam!!  Into the EDC drawer it goes!

[hawkchucker]

Well I got to say that I would love to have that done to my farmer, but I would must definatly trash the whole kit and kabotal. I would love to add a third layer to my farmer, adding a second blade, and having a clip on it.

Maybe it is time to spend some dough.

[NutSAK]

Maybe it is time to spend some dough.

You know who to contact...  I think you might be pleasantly surprised by the price of those mods.

[scibeer]

The 2 bladed Farmer works out pretty well.

I did one a couple weeks ago.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I'm in love

[hawkchucker]

The 2 bladed Farmer works out pretty well.

I did one a couple weeks ago.

Well thats just what I want. I would be expecting mail as soon as I save up some $

[scibeer]

Will work for multis!
   

[Leatherman123]

Could you put black ALOX scales on a Fireman?

[scibeer]

Nope.    I don't make alox scales.   You can try swissbianco for those.

[SAAM007]

I would love to get my hand on this knife:

The Victorinox Blade (same as VSAKCS newsletter name)


It is something I did with PaintShopPro. I am not sure if it even possible to make because of the electronic blade maybe won't get access only after open the small blade.
(I don't think they ever made one of those but I am not sure)

Is it possible to get such a custom made alox handle knife ? and if so how ?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I like it mate, looks like a swiss congressman with a saw

[scibeer]

That would be a nice one.    I don't know if the 2 specialty blades will nest in the same layer or not since they are made to fit the same position.    Theoretically it should fly.

You might even be able to get at everything since the saw would be in the middle leavin a little space to access the nicks.   If not the layers could be switched which might allow for better positioning.   You need an electrician plus, a pioneer settler and a rancher to find out!

[Benner]

You need an electrician plus, a pioneer settler and a rancher to find out!

... and a Scibeer. 

[SAAM007]

You need an electrician plus, a pioneer settler and a rancher to find out!

... and a Scibeer. 

That is going to be very expansive 
I made the pictures using:
Electrician plus - 43$
Pioneer settler - 27$
Pioneer rancher - 37.5$
(took the pictures and prices from www.swissarmy.com)

So it will be 107.5$ + work      I guess I have to wait, can't efford it now.

[Grant Lamontagne]

There are to things you have to remember when adding up the costs...

1.  Felinevet offers these knives well below MSRP, and he supplies Scibeer directly.

2.  Scibeer has many spare parts in stock already, so buying a "fresh" knife for disassembly may not be necessary.

I would suggest contacting Bill (Scibeer) and asking him what would all be involved in getting one done.  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Def

[Sea Monster]

Is there any reason more tools can't have the double-flat of the Cap Lifter/Screwdriver? (and combo tool)

Not so much because I imagine many of the tools would benefit from being used at 90º, but because it gives them somewhere to stop before hitting my fingers!


Is there any reason you can't have backspring tools on Alox models? (HOOK!)

[AndyTiedye]

The Electrician's blade and the harvester blade should go together OK,  they are in a layer together in the XLT.