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Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches 35598

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #150 on: January 15, 2016, 09:33:22 PM »
Blackwater Kite, 140Lm, rechargeable (several brands/finishes available)
Two mode twistie







Size comparison







Taken apart









Compared with the Tank007 E09

Both on high



and both on low



The light volume is similar, but the E09 has a better throw

The anodising is OK but not as goo as that of Fenix, Olight etc. No missing anodising.

Charging



It charges via a standard micro USB wire. There is a red LED indicating charging, which turns to green when it is charged.
The included battery gets charged to 4.2V before the charging stops. A good, safe, voltage.
Because of its size it does not fit in my chargers, but can be charged using suitable wires, if needed.

The battery capacity is low, as expected.

NOTE : to charge it for the first time you need to take off the bottom battery cover and remove a plastic insulator that is included, to protect the battery from turning on during transport

The charging USB socket seems good enough.

Is this a good replacement for an AAA light?

Definitely the brightness is similar.
Smaller.
It stayed cool enough.
PWM was barely noticeable (much better than the E09)
The Capacity is much lower and I doubt you can get 30 minutes on high. The voltage drooped significantly after little use (my testing period).

The question is whether it is easier to find AAA batteries or a micro USB charger. They are both common enough, but in a power cut the AAA option will win.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 09:34:36 PM by dks »

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #151 on: January 15, 2016, 10:01:21 PM »
Thanks for the awesome and quick review !

on Monday I'm definitely going to our post office to check if something hasn't arrived but they failed to notify me. it's been over a month already.
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #152 on: January 15, 2016, 10:04:29 PM »
Hm, so only the two modes, low and high?

I like the integrated charger option, one of the reasons I haven't yet pulled the trigger on similar lights. I have a Quantum D2 that uses these cells and have thought of buying a few of these to give away as gifts but the chargers I found were all too pricy for what they were.
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #153 on: January 15, 2016, 10:09:04 PM »
The charger seems to work OK. I would have been happier using  other chargers, but the cell is too small. I have to see if it fits in my low end liion chargers.

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #154 on: January 15, 2016, 10:17:18 PM »
I know Ric from cnqualitygoods used to sell spacers for them to fit regular chargers. Can't remember what his new site is. :think:
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #155 on: January 15, 2016, 10:25:33 PM »
I thought he run two sites. Really, with over 20 micro USBs around the house, the cars etc. I do not see me bothering with a charger  :D

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #156 on: January 16, 2016, 12:41:01 PM »
Thanks for the review mate.  I rather like the look of that.  :facepalm:

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #157 on: January 16, 2016, 12:48:40 PM »
And since mine hasn't arrived yet, I'm so freakin tempted to buy an Olight S15 Baton or whatever the name exactly was :think:
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #158 on: January 16, 2016, 01:45:15 PM »
Thanks for the review mate.  I rather like the look of that.  :facepalm:
You provided the link  :cheers:

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #159 on: November 24, 2016, 10:26:32 AM »
ThruNite Ti CREE LED

I do not know if a titanium alloy torch can be considered budget, but I have left this thread all alone for too long.

I wondered into BLF, started looking at titanium lights, and ended up buying this, mainly for the impressive output, from such a small light.
The cost was around 30Euro, to my door.

This is the premium version of the ThruNite AAA lights, but, what I liked was than instead of just giving it a Titanium body, whilst keeping the rest the same as with the other models of the series that cost a lot less, they changed the LED to an XP-L Cree, which gives out 162Lm, from a regular battery, as opposed to the 120ish of most other lights, from LiIons.



It comes in a simple box, with a spear rubber gasket, a pocket clip and a key ring attachment.
Specifications, from the manufacturer:
Small but powerful one AAA flashlight, max output up to 162 lumen.
Four output modes: firefly, low, high and a hidden strobe.
LED: Cree XP-L V4 LED with a lifespan of 20+years of run time.
Battery: 1 AAA battery (Working voltage: 0.9-3V)
Dimension: 70mm(length)*14mm(head diameter)
Weight: 16 gram without battery.
OP Reflector give perfect flood.
Titanium alloy(TC4) body with polished finish.
Waterproof to IPX-8 standard.
Convenient twist switch for one hand operation.
Output and run time:
          - Firefly: 0.5 Lm(115h),
          - Low: 12 Lm(6.3h),
          - High: 162Lm(0.5h),
          - Strobe:162Lm(1 hour)


The mode memory is unusual. Basically, if you do not switch the light on in 10 seconds, it always starts on low
It looks nice, polished, though the weaker LUMINTOP looks nicer, at least in photographs.
The finish was fine but the threads needed a bit of cleaning – now it works very smoothly.





The comparison is done with the Tank007 E09, on LiIons.  The Thrunite is using an alkaline battery, as I expected the higher initial voltage to give it a brighter light.
They have similar size.



Even though the thrunite is not supposed to use LiIons, it has been tested with them, in other forums, and it works fine, getting very hot. The emitter is similar in output to an XML one, but smaller.

Both on high, the Thrunite is on the left.





By using it here and to illuminate various objects the thrunite produces the same intensity as the Tank007, but in a larger area- like using several Tank007s together to illuminate a larger area.
The thrunite has an OP reflector- the Tank007 has a polished, thrower style, one.



The beam is smooth and looks clean. It is supposed to be cool white.

Overall, it is an impressive light, both in quality and in output. It does dwarf the light of other AAA lights. 
It will be nice to see the same driver and LED in aluminium lights, for 10, 15 euro.


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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #160 on: December 23, 2017, 03:07:04 PM »
Archon V10s


Lower cost range of proper dive lights. Very good construction and finish. It is advertised as red but it was more purply

Around 25 Euro.
From the manufacturer:


◆Bulb: CREE XM-L2 U2 (Max 860 lumens)

◆Output levels: high > low > SOS

◆Waterproof: 60 Meters underwater

Double O-rings, Battery level indication, nice squared threads, smooth operation, nice, hefty feel.

Only two modes, so no confusion (and SOS)

Easy to operate under water and produces a very nice uniform beam, good for seeing and videoing whilst diving

A definite improvement over the plastic (usually yellow) diving lights, for not much more - Save your money and buy this instead of the really cheap ones (hint- they will leak easily)

Will also make a prety decent regular light for use in the rain, mud, dusty environments

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #161 on: December 23, 2017, 03:17:45 PM »
Archon W1A

A prety decent and clever Diving light

Clips to the strap of your mask and stays there securely. Around 15 Euro

From the manufacturer

◆Bulb: CREE XP-E R3 LED (max 75 lumens)

◆One output level: high only
◆With diving mask clip

◆Waterproof: 100 Meters underwater

Very nice construction and finish.
Works very well, only one mode which simplifies things.

Because it is a twisty you have to be careful not to twist it too much when switching off as this will affect the water resistance.

I suggest that you just leave it on throughout the dive and only switch it off after a wash with fresh water.

It could also be useful when there is a lot of rain/mud/dust

Takes only regular AAA batteries - No Lithium Ion batteries.

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2018, 07:01:15 PM »
Thorfire BLF Q8

I like the BLF models and have bought a few of them in the past

This can be had for 37Euro including shipping.
Considering that it has 4 XPL emitters and a realistic 5000Lm output it can be considered as a low cost, good value light.

This arrived in a good but plain cardboard box which contained a spare button and some spare gaskets.
It has the Can format which makes it short and stout. The 4 18650 batteries are in parallel.

Because of this it can be run with any combination of 1 to 4 batteries but 4, button top, ones re needed for best performance.  I used 4 protected Panasonics, as I wanted 4 same button top batteries (it works with flat tops too, but you re not sure if  +ve poles re touching the conducting plate.

It uses a ramping system, where you start from low and as long as you keep the power button pressed it will slowly go to maximum (you can stop at any brightness) You can go from high to low the same way - plenty of reviews in BLF for this light.  This is the latest generation model, with better QA/QC.

It has a tripod mount and small green light stays on in the button when it is off, so that you can find it.

Comparison beam shots with the Trustfire TR-3T6  3XML emitter model (on 2 18650, but it can take 3 with the extension tube) and the BLF A6 single XPL model .  These are both very bright lights. 

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #164 on: February 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM »
Nice one!
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #165 on: February 25, 2018, 09:40:55 AM »
It is.

It is very impressive when used in open spaces, like the countryside ,where it illuminates a large area reaching way ahead.

You can then see the actual power it has, compared to other powerful lights.

Ever since Enci disappeared and Gareth semi-disappeared this thread get very few replies  :D

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #166 on: February 25, 2018, 01:29:14 PM »
Do you have some outside photos?
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #167 on: February 25, 2018, 01:58:54 PM »
not with the new lights - I did some throw tests a few years ago

I need to do some again

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #168 on: March 02, 2018, 06:22:47 PM »
Following a request, here are some beam comparison shots.  These are all powerful torches  and a comparison shot with the car headlights, on high beam is included, to put the torch beams into perspective.
I am including the claimed lumens, though some may be a bit exaggerated. The Trustfire was on 2 batteries, but it can also be run on 3, for a slight increase in brightness.

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #170 on: March 02, 2018, 08:25:12 PM »
Great photos dks!  :salute:
That BLF is one powerful flashlight... :drool:
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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #171 on: March 02, 2018, 08:34:50 PM »
all the lights used are powerful but the Q8 is on a different level.
the car's headlights are pretty decent too - never felt that they were weak when driving, for comparison

the lights were at about 1.5m from the ground.

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #172 on: December 23, 2018, 09:15:09 PM »
Went for the cheapest C8
MECO C8
The emitter is supposedly a T6 but not a Cree one. Still bright enough.
18650

I took some comparison shots with the Romisen RC-T601
Meco on the left in the beam photograph

The Meco is less solid, slightly less bright but has more throw. For under  6 Euro it is worth it. Good threads, 5 modes, bad PWM.

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Re: Livarno, Romisen, C8, Small Sun cheap HID torches
« Reply #173 on: December 23, 2018, 09:30:01 PM »
Utorch V8  XPL Available with  stepless dimming or separate modes (cheaper)

Compared with the BLF A6

Impressive matt finish, nice squared threads - It can easily carry a Fenix, Olight etc. sticker.

Appears  only slightly dimmer than the A6  Avery good buy, at half the money, under 8 Euro.
PWM is bad, the A6 one is way better.
OP reflector, slightly smaller pits than the A6.

Utorch on the left in the beam photograph

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