I would agree that for a serious EDC, the Cybertool driver is tough to beat. Since it has a detent at 90 degrees, it can generate SERIOUS torque when needed. It' is the best development in the VIctorinox line up (IMO).
EDIT: Also... white Deluxe Tinker spotted on Felinevet's store. Soo... tempting...
It' is the best development in the VIctorinox line up (IMO).
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on April 25, 2012, 12:28:27 AMIt' is the best development in the VIctorinox line up (IMO).I completely agree that its very handy addition, as I do use my cybertool driver alot. That being said, its the lowest quality component I've ever seen on a Vic tool. The steel is horrible and actually tarnishes easily. The plastic bit holder in mine that is only a month or so old no longer keeps the bits in properly either, they fall out whenever I open it. Fit and finish is awful, but I still find it useful. Having access to modding tools I can and will upgrade this to be higher quality and get rid of the plastic retainer and make a proper metal one. I give it a 9/10 for functionality and a 2/10 for quality. It's horrible. You can even see the weld marks in the back of the CT driver. It doesn't polish up like regular vic steel either. Honestly to me it doesn't match the quality of the other tools made by victorinox at all, and it looks like something that was outsourced in china, or at least made with low cost first and quality last. I guess you can say I have a love/hate relationship with the CT layer, but I still want to put one on an alox SAK...
Quote from: Syph007 on April 25, 2012, 02:02:46 AMQuote from: Mr. Whippy on April 25, 2012, 12:28:27 AMIt' is the best development in the VIctorinox line up (IMO).I completely agree that its very handy addition, as I do use my cybertool driver alot. That being said, its the lowest quality component I've ever seen on a Vic tool. The steel is horrible and actually tarnishes easily. The plastic bit holder in mine that is only a month or so old no longer keeps the bits in properly either, they fall out whenever I open it. Fit and finish is awful, but I still find it useful. Having access to modding tools I can and will upgrade this to be higher quality and get rid of the plastic retainer and make a proper metal one. I give it a 9/10 for functionality and a 2/10 for quality. It's horrible. You can even see the weld marks in the back of the CT driver. It doesn't polish up like regular vic steel either. Honestly to me it doesn't match the quality of the other tools made by victorinox at all, and it looks like something that was outsourced in china, or at least made with low cost first and quality last. I guess you can say I have a love/hate relationship with the CT layer, but I still want to put one on an alox SAK...I think the CT driver is cast, where all the other pieces are stamped. Also if the little ball on the bits face the sides of the holder they stay in better. The steel is different. I doesn't polish up the same. I think all the CT drivers have the bow so they conform to the curve of the knife.
I don't have any interest in collecting, but I like the idea of having the best toolset for the least weight, and SAKs might meet that. I fear there may be modding involved though... which is a whole new avenue for my crazy.
I am most definitely not a collector, despite that my SAK holdings expanded by one today, a Wenger EvoGrip 81, bought specifically to go into my EDC first aid kit.
I too am searching for the perfect SAK for EDC. I've come to the conclusion there isn't ONE, and that it will have to be two, and further, both need to be mods.
First, is for regular, all the time, pocket carry.
Second is for carry in my EDC bag.
I am sincerely hoping those two will meet all my needs on a day to day basis.
I'm not including things like going on family camping trips, or other forms of non-regular outdoor recreation though... I already have a couple of SAKs for that!
...in hopes you might find some light at the end of the SAK EDC tunnel. ...In all honesty, I'm sure I'll probably end up buying another one after I get these....
I agree with Syph that the driver part of the CT layer doesn't seem as well made as the rest of the tools in a CT. The driver in my 125th 34 has a pronounced bow in it, which I assume is from heat treating. Perhaps it's just me being picky, but I really would prefer it be nice and straight.
Jeremy, I don't think the bit size on the CTs is proprietary; there are a lot of Wiha tools that also use the 4 mm bit size as well. Usually though they use a magnetic retention system instead of the little embedded ball bearing.
Here's a great little Wiha driver and bits that I got for my wife for her computer repair toolkit.
In a thread in the Modding forum, GigaHz posted a pic of a Compact he'd added a CT layer to; I'll repost it here for everyone's benefit.
Isn't your avatar a pic of those knives forming Voltron? Maybe I shouldn't show my nerd level by saying that...