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us Offline GigaHz

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Is this a fake?
on: June 04, 2012, 01:08:20 PM

us Offline Tsquare

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
It sure looks fake.  The magnifier looks to be metal and the fit and finish of the tool look wrong.  Someone put vic scales on a fake probably.

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #2 on: June 04, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
The phillips driver looks wrong as well now that I take a second look.

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #3 on: June 04, 2012, 02:38:14 PM
the spring on the piler looks fake :ahhh

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #4 on: June 04, 2012, 02:57:41 PM
The tang of the blade does not have any marking on the back

us Offline Muslickz

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #5 on: June 04, 2012, 03:03:26 PM
Yea, That's just all wrong. I have seen a few knock-off's over the past couple months showing up on ebay and amazon. Sad...

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 03:09:53 PM
When something - not China made - is shipped from China, I begin with the presupposition that it has at least 50% possibility to be fake. If you add that, on its picture, it also looks fake (never saw a metal-framed magnifying glass on a vic...) and it is much cheaper than it should... I wouldn't buy it.

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 03:10:26 PM
Yes, china knockoff, I've seen lots like that.
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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 03:44:52 PM
"This is a copy, down to the silver-color box labeled Victorinox, with Made in
Switzerland on the bottom, and the photographically-reproduced color
manual inside (in nine languages), but each tool betrays its ersatz nature.
The smallest one is the most glaring: the head of the tweezers is white, not
the Victorinox gray." 
This from The SAK Owner's Manual - but describing the chinese fake Rescue Tool.
Yes, the "deluxe floding Victorinox" (w/white tweezer-head) is also a fake.
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Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 04:35:11 PM
I never saw the Victorinox name used before, except on the rescue tool.

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Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
That junk is all over alibaba.  This looks like the model from the ebay listing.

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: Tsquare on June 04, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
The phillips driver looks wrong as well now that I take a second look.
that was the first thing that jumped out as me as well. :-\
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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
The canopener and the bottleopener doesn't overlap eachother the way they should either. they barely touch eachother.
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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #13 on: June 04, 2012, 11:21:11 PM
Wrong mini-screwdriver in the corkscrew, the awl looks suspicious, but it's hard to see from the pictures, also the small back-mounted flat driver seems to have the wrong shape. Also notice the saw, I think it's the... useless kind. I think holding the knife, it would hard to claim it was a Vic. Lots and lots of details that are harder to see in the pictures, especially the pictures the seller has chosen...  :rant:  :twak:

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #14 on: June 04, 2012, 11:23:49 PM
Oh, and btw, no hook. The Chinese think it's useless as many other people do, I guess...

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Re: Is this a fake?
Reply #15 on: June 05, 2012, 01:27:53 AM
Fit and finish on the T&T and glasses driver are poor. The liners have something odd to them, I can't quite say what though. Proportion on the small blade is short. Plus what others have mentioned.

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Reply #16 on: June 05, 2012, 04:38:21 AM
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Reply #17 on: June 05, 2012, 05:15:46 AM
-Knívleysur maður er lívleysur maður.
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Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 05:57:39 AM
Sure looks fake to me.  The large blade should have a stamp of "some" kind on either side of it.  The mini-screwdriver looks thin and cheap too.  Actually...whole thing looks thin and cheap.
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Reply #19 on: June 05, 2012, 06:03:41 AM
You know...if you report these auctions to Victorinox, they will have them removed and also have ebay issue a warning to the seller and put a black mark on the seller's account.  After a few of these marks, the seller's account is deleted.

I know this because I used to sell used SAKs on ebay.  One day, I had one of my auctions deleted and my account put in warning.  I called ebay to find out what the smurf was going on and apparently, "Swiss Army Knife" is a copyrighted name of Victorinox's.  Who'da thunk it.

I contacted Victorinox, apologized for my ignorance and learned the correct phrasing for my auctions that met with their approval.
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