PPP Tini rebuild.Help required

[kirk13]

I'm wanting to build my ultimate PPP.

It's going to be built up on my Tini,but there's a few things I'd like to do...

First is the easy one,replace the nut pivots with eithe hex or torx key ones. I did have a hex key PPP but I kinda traded it before I'd decided to commit to the rebuild.Can anybody suggest where I can get suitable pivots,preferably in the UK?

The other thing I want to do is fit scissors.SOGs own ones are...functional.Has anybody fitted Vic scissors or anything similar,and if so,how did you do it?

[lowtech]

Can you measure teh Pivot length and diameter? I tore apart a Gerber  Evo and from the top of my head the pivot diameter should fit? That is, if you can live with Gerber parts on your SOG.

[Taxi Dad]

now you have me thinking John, what scissors could i get in a powerlock ? (SOG ones suck)

[kirk13]

Can you measure teh Pivot length and diameter? I tore apart a Gerber  Evo and from the top of my head the pivot diameter should fit? That is, if you can live with Gerber parts on your SOG.

Length is 10mm,diameter is 4mm mate.

[Taxi Dad]

gerber scissors suck more than SOG ones 

[Zed]

I did fit some vicalike scissors on my old ppp that Thomas now has,they was off a true utility mt I picked up from a car boot sale cheap but not sure about vics 

[lowtech]

Zed: Thanks, I was wondering where they came from!
Taxi Dad, i am quite fond of teh Gerber/Fiskar Scissors in my MP 600 - what is not right with them in your opinion?
Kirk: I´ll have a look at teh Gerber pivots while looking for teh Gerber spacers.

[Taxi Dad]

perhaps i'm being a bit unfair, my main experiance with Gerber scissors was on my suspention, which kinda sucks in all departments 
think i'm a bit of a scissor snob, i just love Vic scissors 

[enki_ck]

I think 91mm scissors would be too big. 84mm would probably fit but who's gonna risk taking down one of those and enlarging the hole for the SOG pivot.

[kirk13]

I think 91mm scissors would be too big. 84mm would probably fit but who's gonna risk taking down one of those and enlarging the hole for the SOG pivot.

Good point!

perhaps i'm being a bit unfair, my main experiance with Gerber scissors was on my suspention, which kinda sucks in all departments 
think i'm a bit of a scissor snob, i just love Vic scissors 

What about the ones on your 400? I generally reckon the Fiskers MT scissors are some of the better ones around!

[Zed]

I liked the fiskars scissors on the mp800, the surges are my favourites 

[enki_ck]

Wenger scissors on the other hand aren't that rare yet. But the spring being separate from the body could be a problem.

[Taxi Dad]

I liked the fiskars scissors on the mp800, the surges are my favourites 

well obviously !!! the Surge scissors kick arse 
Leatherman don't do bad with scissors IMO, wave/charge(etc) look small and silly but i've found them pretty good, and the 'squirt' S4 rocks but clearly they're not an option 

What about the ones on your 400? I generally reckon the Fiskers MT scissors are some of the better ones around!

not done much with the mp400, i'm still 'thinking' and planning a mod. the idea was pliers mainly to compliment my 'swiss champ'. the rest of the tools might go or be swapped out for something 'different'    keys, torch, jigsawblade-exchanger? (any ideas welcome  )

[lowtech]

Just for you, dear fellows, i tested my Imperial socket set for the first time and tore my PPP apart to check the fitting of the Gerber EVO Pivots.



Kirky likey?
The Downside (quite literally and metaphorically)



I could not see if the Pivots are threaded all the way.
If you want to shorten them and find out, I´ll send them with the Spacers.

The tools fit perfectly with the Pivots. You need to decide vif you like the fancy heads.

[kirk13]

Love the idea mate,and thank you for taking the time to check.

Problem is,I've no idea how to cut them down without buggering up the threads.

[lowtech]

Dremeling and filing? I think we should ask Metro and Syph, they should have shortened quite some Pivots each...

[kirk13]

Good thinking Batman

[lowtech]

Now where is Robin to get me a cold drink? 

[AimlessWanderer]

Best scissors for a PPP beyond a doubt are the ones on a PST II. Added bonus is a diamond coated file 

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,30918.msg516921.html#msg516921

[kirk13]

In the cave,looking for the BatMiniBar?

[Sparky415]

Problem is,I've no idea how to cut them down without buggering up the threads.

Belt sander? 

[kirk13]

Problem is,I've no idea how to cut them down without buggering up the threads.

Belt sander? 

Don't have one 

[lowtech]

Found him at the Fridge, sipping my beer.

I have a belt sander. Maybe I´ll try if that leaves the threads intact on some expendable Pivot.

[Sparky415]

I would try turning my belt sander on its back (with a fine grit belt), drill a hole through a flat piece of wood so the pivot is a snug fit
Then place the wood on the sander and push the pivot through from the top, this should keep the end of the pivot square 

I make this up as I go along so watch your fingers Mate 
 

[lowtech]

I did buy a clamp with my Bosch sander, it usually lives on its back as i do more metal than woodwork with it.

And I´ll blame Kirk if i shorten a Finger or parts get Airborne...

[Sparky415]

I did buy a clamp with my Bosch sander, it usually lives on its back as i do more metal than woodwork with it.

And I´ll blame Kirk if i shorten a Finger or parts get Airborne...

I've never done that 

 

[Zed]

I agree with Al on the pstll/old wave scissors