Victorinox Special mechanic with reamer

HankSolon · **on:** December 04, 2012, 03:19:01 PM

Is there a way, to get a reamer to a Victorinox Special mechanic but keeping the knife as flat as possible?
(I don't want to echange any tool, but want to add a very thin layer, since tools in the special mechanic are minimalistic and useful to me). Scissors would be nice too, but not neccessary.
Maybee the phillips screw driver could be avoided, but I thought I could echange it with a cork screw (because of the thin screw driver).

Edit:
The Victorinox mechanic is too 'fat' imho.

Syph007 · **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2012, 03:45:08 PM

So this model?

If you added a scissor layer you could put the reamer on the back of that layer. Its a bit thinner and need a tiny washer made for it, but it does work.

HankSolon · **Reply #2 on:** December 04, 2012, 04:24:24 PM

Exactly this one.
With the scissor layer I hoped that it would fit (maybe that's why I mentioned it).

But interesting would be: avoiding the scissorlayer.

Syph007 · **Reply #3 on:** December 04, 2012, 04:54:36 PM

Unless you got rid of the phillips I cant see any simple way.

I wonder if it was possible to use a few of the other type of springs such as the ones the fishscaler/metal saw in the swiss champ uses that allows a backtool. Stack 2 or 3 to get the right width for the pliers, and replace the plier spring with those, and then you could actually add 2 backtools for the same width. Like the reamer, and fine screwdriver or chisel.

This is just me thinking out loud, I'm not sure it would work, but it would be interesting to try.

HankSolon · **Reply #4 on:** December 04, 2012, 05:40:53 PM

That sound's pretty interesting to me.

Can someone confirm, if there exist such springs?

Syph007 · **Reply #5 on:** December 04, 2012, 05:50:55 PM

I have a pile of them. Later tonight I can test and show you if it works.

HankSolon · **Reply #6 on:** December 04, 2012, 06:02:50 PM

Thx a lot!

EDIT:

Just thought about it:
Reamer AND Fine Screwdriver would be the non plus ultra. So I could easily keep the phillips screw driver. (The only reason to replace it with a cork screwer was the fine screwdriver attached to it).

Syph007 · **Reply #7 on:** December 04, 2012, 09:25:33 PM

I gave it a try, the two springs are add up to identical the width of the plier spring, but the pliers can close. There is not enough room, which now makes sense as I look at it. The space for the plier handl when folded is where th back tools would be. Oh well it was an idea.

HankSolon · **Reply #8 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:31:24 PM

So it doesn't work that way? What a pitty!

Well, since I'm going to make me some ebony scales, the option:
Option 1: replacing phillips screwdriver with reamer is a good one.

Option 2: What about the reamer of an Alox.? It's very flat. If I can manage to get the hole smaller, is there a way to get a corresponding flat spring with an opposite Tool?

Option 3: Still would be: Add a scissor and a backside reamer (instead of a hook).

Syph007 · **Reply #9 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:54:24 PM

Ya it would have been a neat trick, but it was worth a test.

If you are going to make your own scales, then you can for sure swap the phillips for the awl. The awl is thinner than the blade layer, but if you put some tiny washers there it should work fine.

The alox awl would be interesting, but I dont know if that pivot matches the pivot on a 91 very well, not for size, but for position relative to the awl top. Might work though, I just havent tried to know.

Scissors adds 0.100 inches plus a liner width, but Im pretty certain the awl would work on back of that.

WiSAKfan · **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2012, 01:08:00 AM

replacing the phillips with a reamer is something i tried but the fit is imperfect enough where the tools don't open and close with a "snap"

if you can get the special mechanic I would stick with stock

if you are making a special mechanic, then the sky's the limit (providing you can work out the above)

Syph007 · **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2012, 01:30:51 AM

Quote from: WiSAKfan on December 05, 2012, 01:08:00 AM

replacing the phillips with a reamer is something i tried but the fit is imperfect enough where the tools don't open and close with a "snap"

if you can get the special mechanic I would stick with stock

if you are making a special mechanic, then the sky's the limit (providing you can work out the above)

Ah darnit. I guess that hook shape is just different enough to make the other tools not work too well.

HankSolon · **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2012, 10:06:01 AM

Edited:

Ok, let's look at it:

Option 1 (replace phillips with reamer):
Not a good Idea, since Reamer is more flat and the fit is imperfect. (no snapping)
The Knife here would have had 2 layers
(and still would have been my favorite idea):
Large Blade - Combo Tool (backside with reamer)
Pliers

Option 2 (still interesting to me and is seen prior to Option 3):
I understand the point with the pivot. But maybe I could carve the alox reamer around the pivot a bit, so that it fits a bit better. I haven't look at it too, since I'm still thinking about it loudly.

The knife here would have 3 Layers (but all in all it is more flat than in Option 3):
- Large Blade - Combo Tool (backside with cork screw / phillips - still not decided)
- Pliers
- flat layer with Alox Reamer and ...? Maybe a fine screw-driver which I could even cut?

Option 3 (Scissor with backside reamer): not a good idea? I didn't understand the point with the hook shape ... or did that refer to the phillips-reamer thing?
The Knife here would have 3 layers:
- Large Blade - Combo Tool (backside with cork screw / phillips - still not decided)
- Pliers
- Scissors (backside with awl/reamer)

Some Questions are still there:
Are there any springs (91mm) that have the same width like the Alox Reamer?
Is there a Tool (beside the standard bottle opener or can opener) which I could place on the other side of the Alox reamer AND which eventually have the same width? Like fine screw-driver?

HankSolon · **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2012, 01:12:54 PM

Quote from: HankSolon on December 05, 2012, 10:06:01 AM

- flat layer with Alox Reamer and ...? Maybe a fine screw-driver which I could even cut?

I mean: The fine screw-driver would need modification too. Maybe I need to cut the length

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #14 on:** December 05, 2012, 05:39:06 PM

The alox awl will work with the 91mm frame. However it uses a different spring.

HankSolon · **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2012, 05:53:46 PM

Thx. But I ~~already had~~ have further questions.

I already mentioned, that maybe I would have to carve something for the fit. Question is: Is there a spring which has same width like the Alox Farmer and which can hold a tool on the other front side? What could be a possible tool, regarding the width?

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2012, 05:55:31 PM

Here's the link to the mod

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=38998

HankSolon · **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2012, 06:15:31 PM

Wow, thx a lot! I guess that's what I needed.

Option 2:
3 Layers (Special Mechanic with one additional layer):
1st Main Blade - Combo Tool (backside with phillips Screw driver)
2nd Pliers (no backside tool)
3rd Alox Awl/Reamer - File/Metal saw (no backside tool)

The File will get a fine screwdriver end.

I already own a special mechanic.
Now where to get the File/Metal Saw and spring... Is a Victorinox Mountaineer 1.3743 perfect for it (to get the tool and the spring)?
I guess I have to modify the spring of the file?
Do I need some spacers? I'm asking because I have to order the stuff via internet.

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2012, 09:58:47 PM

Hmmm not quite

. There's no backtool on the spring I used. It was a older mag glass/inline spring.

HankSolon · **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2012, 10:52:10 PM

Now I'm confused...

Has the file spring a backside tool? It isn't intended to have a backside tool here. Just two fronst-side tools (file and awl).

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #20 on:** December 06, 2012, 02:00:51 AM

Quote from: HankSolon on December 05, 2012, 10:52:10 PM

Now I'm confused...

Has the file spring a backside tool? It isn't intended to have a backside tool here. Just two fronst-side tools (file and awl).

OK If you want to do it like I did you have to use a older style backspring from the mag glass/inline phillips and 2 spacers. If all you want is 2 front-side tools then your good to go

HankSolon · **Reply #21 on:** December 06, 2012, 10:06:42 AM

I was just confused, since the was no backside tool visible on your linked topic.
My idea is the same as shown in the pictures attached to this post.

I understand now that's possible and I'm glad about it. ;-) However, getting a spring which allows me an additional backside tool, would be fine too. But you mentioned, that it was an old spring, so this is dead end, I guess.

WiSAKfan · **Reply #22 on:** December 06, 2012, 02:00:21 PM

ebay and look for an older model explorer

HankSolon · **Reply #23 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:05:22 PM

Well, thx, but I'll skip that. There's no way for me to distinguish between an old and a new version.

Sak Wiki isn't helpful too http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Explorer ... beside the fact, that there's no hint for an additional backside tool of the file layer

And I don't like to bother you, posting links of SAKs, which 'might' be the version I'm searching for.

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #24 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:57:59 PM

No bother here at MTO. The older version of the explorer has a gray mag glass. The newer version has a clear one

. I'll check some parts fit later when I get home. It still may be possible. Thats what modders do

HankSolon · **Reply #25 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:21:38 AM

Ok, gray glass. That's easy to me.

Thank you so much!

IF there's still a very flat option for a layer containing file / Alox Awl and a back layer tool. Hints are very appreciated.

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