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gb Offline Philby

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Tools with USA ground out
on: January 16, 2013, 09:12:27 PM
Does anyone have any Leatherman Tools with the USA ground out on the handles? This is mine it's a PST dated 0504 and 0304.



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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Yes.
They are very common.
Hapened with tools marked with USA after this:

http://www.leatherman.com/about/release?id=20

May, 2005, Portland, OR?A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has found that between April of 1997 and April of 2002, Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. violated a unique California law concerning the ability of companies to represent their products as ?Made in USA.? The court in Colgan v. Leatherman Tool Group held that under California law Leatherman engaged in false or misleading advertising by representing that certain of its tools were ?Made in USA.? As a result, the court directed the company to pay approximately $13 million in restitution. Leatherman is disappointed with the ruling and intends to file an appeal.

A recent Associated Press story about the ruling gave the distinct impression that Leatherman brand multi-tools are, for the most part, made outside the United States. This is false.

The unique California law at issue prohibits companies from selling in California any product represented as ?Made in USA? if ?any article, unit, or part? of the product was ?substantially made, manufactured, or produced outside of the United States.? As interpreted by one California judge, the law prohibits a ?Made in USA? representation of a product even if the only foreign content in the product is a single screw
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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 09:31:52 PM
$13 million is a good enough reason to grind it out!  Seems a bit harsh to me.


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Tools with USA ground out
Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 09:46:06 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't remember ever seeing a ground out PST.. :think: AND it's a CC too.. You know where to find me if you ever get tired of it.. ;) :D


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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
Yes.
They are very common.
Hapened with tools marked with USA after this:

http://www.leatherman.com/about/release?id=20

May, 2005, Portland, OR?A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has found that between April of 1997 and April of 2002, Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. violated a unique California law concerning the ability of companies to represent their products as ?Made in USA.? The court in Colgan v. Leatherman Tool Group held that under California law Leatherman engaged in false or misleading advertising by representing that certain of its tools were ?Made in USA.? As a result, the court directed the company to pay approximately $13 million in restitution. Leatherman is disappointed with the ruling and intends to file an appeal.

A recent Associated Press story about the ruling gave the distinct impression that Leatherman brand multi-tools are, for the most part, made outside the United States. This is false.

The unique California law at issue prohibits companies from selling in California any product represented as ?Made in USA? if ?any article, unit, or part? of the product was ?substantially made, manufactured, or produced outside of the United States.? As interpreted by one California judge, the law prohibits a ?Made in USA? representation of a product even if the only foreign content in the product is a single screw


They are not common at all. There are more USA ground out KF4s about. This is only the second PST Ive ever seen and the third Ive ever heard of. That it is on a small pivot plier head ( before the lawsuit ) with CC makes it an exceedingly rare PST.    :)
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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
David, if you check, the question the poster asked was "Does anyone have any Leatherman Tools with the USA ground out "

He was not asking just about the PST.
So my answer was to that question, as it would have been expected.

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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 07:00:28 PM
David, if you check, the question the poster asked was "Does anyone have any Leatherman Tools with the USA ground out "

He was not asking just about the PST.
So my answer was to that question, as it would have been expected.




Yes, but you also said Leatherman tools with USA ground out were very common. Which they are not in my opinion.
What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.
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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 07:13:58 PM
As you said "There are more USA ground out KF4s about", thus my understanding from this is this is that you too implied that it is quite a common thing.

As I said previously, I answered the original question giving my opinion and some information on what the reasons for removing the USA were. I assume that my answer was helpfull to the OP, which was the reason I answered.

If you think that LMs with the USA ground off are rare or that they are common rather than very common then I have no problem with that.
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Re: Tools with USA ground out
Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't remember ever seeing a ground out PST.. :think: AND it's a CC too.. You know where to find me if you ever get tired of it.. ;) :D
I don't think it would have taken too long to retool, once they got the court order. But in the meantime, I'm sure they ground out the "USA" from anything they had in stock.  Sounds like a rare collector's item in the making.


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Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 07:40:47 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't remember ever seeing a ground out PST.. :think: AND it's a CC too.. You know where to find me if you ever get tired of it.. ;) :D
I don't think it would have taken too long to retool, once they got the court order. But in the meantime, I'm sure they ground out the "USA" from anything they had in stock.  Sounds like a rare collector's item in the making.
I knew the story and I already have a ground out Solar KF4 along with the more common USA stamped.. :) But as David points out there's far between ground out PSTs.


 

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