Heya Dunc and the guys...just to provide a quick update on the latest Wave changes - I've just received a new S/S Wave stamped April 2004 and here are my observations when compared to my "old" new BO Wave from Dec 2008:(sorry no pics guys, not at home for few more days)- the frame depth hasn't changed to the extent the LM employee stated in his reply on page one and would led you to believe, at least not to a degree which will cover or 'sink' the end of the file and/or saw so that they would be hard to reach for opening. As DazMechanical pointed above, it's the tool 'stop' at the top of the blade close to the pivot that varies in width, your's seems to be a little narrower, hence the blade sinking into the handle deeper when closed.- the top of the handles near pliers pivot is indeed different, it now has a bump, whereas my 2008 Wave doesn't, it's totally flat.- the date stamp has moved to the inside side-wall of the handle, as others confirmed.- the main blade is shorter - YES - confirmed, by a full 1.5mm shorter than "old" new Wave, for the tools of this size this makes quite a difference. Not sure why Leatherman decided to do that but it's now even noticeable on quick visual inspection between the two. Kind of becoming a pet peeve for me on the latest Wave - The liner-lock stops (circle bumps) are bigger as is the lock graphic stamp near the bumps- I could be worng and need to measure and confirm this - but on quick inspection and comparison the frame and handles now appear to be made of thinner S/S sheet. I will measure when I get back home to confirm- the 'Leatherman' logo stamp on the handles is now wider, letter font is also slightly wider. 2008 Wave comes with more condensed text.This is it for now...sorry for appearing to come across as picky and/or obsessed with details, my previous hobby was watchmaking where I developed a little deeper attention to minute details
Thanks for the comparison. And I'm guessing that should be April 2014, not 2004, correct?
I notice the wood saw is thiner on new Wave (more flexible)
Quote from: Zoki on September 16, 2014, 08:30:42 AMI notice the wood saw is thiner on new Wave (more flexible)Hmm, mine are the same between the 2008 and 2014 batches. When is your old one from?
Quote from: babola on September 16, 2014, 10:06:38 AMQuote from: Zoki on September 16, 2014, 08:30:42 AMI notice the wood saw is thiner on new Wave (more flexible)Hmm, mine are the same between the 2008 and 2014 batches. When is your old one from?Stamped date 0505
Quote from: Zoki on September 16, 2014, 09:27:18 PMQuote from: babola on September 16, 2014, 10:06:38 AMQuote from: Zoki on September 16, 2014, 08:30:42 AMI notice the wood saw is thiner on new Wave (more flexible)Hmm, mine are the same between the 2008 and 2014 batches. When is your old one from?Stamped date 0505We're a bit pedantic here. We're discussing the differences between the new Waves made after 2004. Leatherman made a new die for the frame (novi kalup) in summer 2013 and cause of it there are a few small differences between the Waves made in 2013 and later to the Waves made between 2004 and 2012. Your stamp says yours is made in May 2005 so you're probably comparing it to the old, pre 2004 Wave with the non locking inside tools, right?And welcome to the forum Zoki.