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Reply #1830 on: October 13, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
The very idea of a muzzle loader fascinates me.
It would tick all my boxes, pride of ownership, toy, and very  occasional hunting.
 :cry: Never even seen one for sale locally, even if I could afford and get it licensed.

First time I shot my .357 I only had 2nd rate ear plugs.......for a week afterward I felt like I was experiencing the world through a wool blanket.
The shock that goes with shooting these large calibers is a problem for me, be it hunting or self-defense, any time that hearing protection isn't an option.



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Reply #1831 on: October 13, 2015, 01:35:19 PM
You will love Black powder fire arms. And they don't have that ear piercing crack to them. Just a boom with lots of smoke and fire.

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Reply #1832 on: October 13, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
You will love Black powder fire arms. And they don't have that ear piercing crack to them. Just a boom with lots of smoke and fire.

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The recoil impulse is different as well.  More of a (somewhat) gentle shove compared to the punch of a smokeless arm.
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Reply #1833 on: October 14, 2015, 12:56:09 AM
Found the ideal solution to my ammo storage issues.



Here it is in its new home.


And now have plenty of room.
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Reply #1834 on: October 14, 2015, 01:36:33 AM
Found the ideal solution to my ammo storage issues.



Here it is in its new home.


And now have plenty of room.


One suggestion: Those legs look a bit spindly. You might want to pick up some 1 1/2" wide pre-drilled steel strips and do some cross-bracing on the back and sides. Most home improvement stores cary them.


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Reply #1835 on: October 14, 2015, 02:33:00 AM
Found the ideal solution to my ammo storage issues.



Here it is in its new home.


And now have plenty of room.


Plenty of room........for now.


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Reply #1836 on: October 21, 2015, 11:26:11 AM
Would you believe..still waiting on anything concerning my 1911 front sight assembly.  :think:  :poh:
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Reply #1837 on: October 21, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Damn! They are taking the sweet time.

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Reply #1838 on: October 21, 2015, 03:36:47 PM
Would you believe..still waiting on anything concerning my 1911 front sight assembly.  :think:  :poh:

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Reply #1839 on: October 22, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
Done...and email as well.
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Reply #1840 on: October 22, 2015, 01:02:04 AM
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Reply #1841 on: October 24, 2015, 09:33:13 PM
Still no word on the 1911 front sight assembly.  :(

I really love my TC Impact inline muzzleloader. I have been thinking of maybe getting something a little more traditional, so I ended up at the local gun store and found they had two very reasonably priced used percussion sidelocks. One being a more trad looking piece, and the other more modern. I couldn't decide on which to get so I got them both for less than the price of a new one.

First up is a Traditions 50 cal Deerhunter percusion sidelock.






Next up is a Thompston Center New Englander percussion sidelock.








Is a flintlock in my future?  :rofl:
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Reply #1842 on: October 24, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
I think I'm in love!
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Reply #1843 on: October 24, 2015, 09:51:13 PM
Nice!!!
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Reply #1844 on: October 24, 2015, 10:45:23 PM
Great ammo storage!

Just a thought. If you have ammo you are planning on storing for long periods of time then I would suggest a ammo can and possibly desiccant.
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Reply #1845 on: October 24, 2015, 10:57:53 PM
Got plenty of anti-humidity absorbents in the room. I have a large one that you can plug in to recharge for the room, and plenty of smaller disposable packets everywhere.
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Reply #1846 on: October 24, 2015, 11:21:08 PM
Got plenty of anti-humidity absorbents in the room. I have a large one that you can plug in to recharge for the room, and plenty of smaller disposable packets everywhere.

That's good.  :tu:

Again, if you plan on buying any ammo for long term storage I would still highly suggest a ammo can with seal.
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Reply #1847 on: October 25, 2015, 03:01:05 AM
I bought another Mauser. :facepalm:  Got it from a buddy whose already holding my guns, it's been shifted to my safe in his basement.  M91 Argentine rifle, 7.65 Mauser.  Lovely rifle. :tu:
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Reply #1848 on: October 25, 2015, 03:30:21 AM
Can't wait to see photos of it.

Here are my 3 muzzle-loaders.


Top to bottom: Traditions .50 cal Deerhunter percussion sidelock, Thompson Center .50 cal New Englander percussion sidelock, Thompson Center .50 cal Impact inline.

All I need is to get myself some #11 percussion caps, lead balls or conical bullets, patches, and the right black powder and I should be in business.  :D
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Reply #1849 on: October 25, 2015, 03:49:59 AM


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Reply #1850 on: October 25, 2015, 05:52:00 AM
Cool thing about muzzle loaders here is no need to buy through a FFL. Cash and carry. Used to be cash and carry for rifles 50+ years old as well, but that stopped this year.
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Reply #1851 on: October 27, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
This is in case you guys wondered what 60,000 dollars of expanded .50 BMG looked like.



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Reply #1852 on: October 28, 2015, 01:58:17 AM
Ok...looks like my luck keeps on rolling.  :rofl:

I took a closer look at that New Englander and noticed after looking closely at the ram rod down the barrel that it was longer then it should be. I examined the barrel closely with a bore light and just can see a lead ball down the barrel!

The local gun shop sold me a loaded muzzleloader! Now how in the hell am I supposed to get that out? Well I took a look online and it appears there are 3 main ways of doing this. First is to use a CO2 canister to somehow push the ball and I guess powder out of the barrel. Second is to try and fire it. Third is to use a ball puller.

I don't have a puller yet...but it looks like I should buy one ASAP anyhow. Guess I will call the gun shop and see what they are willing to do for me lol. I just called a local gun smith and he tells me he can remove it for me. Firing this is not an option as I have no clue if there is power, or how much was put in.

For Pete's sake, does the gun shop not know what they are doing? I just like the idea of driving around with a freaking smoke pole loaded.  :facepalm:

 :rofl:
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Reply #1853 on: October 28, 2015, 02:06:22 AM
This is in case you guys wondered what 60,000 dollars of expanded .50 BMG looked like.



Mere peanuts.

The M829E4 is a fifth-generation APFSDS-T cartridge consisting of a depleted-uranium, multi-segmented,[not in citation given] long rod penetrator with a three-petal composite sabot.[citation needed] The penetrator includes a low-drag fin with a tracer, and a windshield and tip assembly. Its propellant maintains consistent muzzle velocities across operational temperatures from −25 to 145 °F (−32 to 63 °C). The new Advanced Combustible Cartridge Case is similar to previous models but has a relocated skive joint placement for better crew-member safety during handling.[9] The initial order for 2,501 M829E4 rounds in 2014 had a unit cost of $10,100 each.[5] On 20 July 2015, Orbital ATK announced that the M829E4 had passed First Article Acceptance Testing and was entering production.[10] On 12 October 2015, Orbital ATK announced the round had recently received type classification as the M829A4, and was awarded a full-rate production contract to begin in early 2016.[11]


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Reply #1854 on: October 28, 2015, 02:08:28 AM
Ok...looks like my luck keeps on rolling.  :rofl:

I took a closer look at that New Englander and noticed after looking closely at the ram rod down the barrel that it was longer then it should be. I examined the barrel closely with a bore light and just can see a lead ball down the barrel!

The local gun shop sold me a loaded muzzleloader! Now how in the hell am I supposed to get that out? Well I took a look online and it appears there are 3 main ways of doing this. First is to use a CO2 canister to somehow push the ball and I guess powder out of the barrel. Second is to try and fire it. Third is to use a ball puller.

I don't have a puller yet...but it looks like I should buy one ASAP anyhow. Guess I will call the gun shop and see what they are willing to do for me lol. I just called a local gun smith and he tells me he can remove it for me. Firing this is not an option as I have no clue if there is power, or how much was put in.

For Pete's sake, does the gun shop not know what they are doing? I just like the idea of driving around with a freaking smoke pole loaded.  :facepalm:

 :rofl:

Did you tell them you mentioned them in your will?

Seriously, you need to find another gun shop, ASAP!


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Reply #1855 on: October 28, 2015, 02:18:55 AM
I know, however they are too convenient for my own good. The TC New Englander is a beautiful rifle. Now I know why someone sold it to them lol. The original owner probably didn't know how to do it. After doing some reading, getting that lead ball out shouldn't be an issue. My problem is that I do not have the proper gear yet. Going to see what the local gun shop will do for me. If they can't or won't do anything, I have a real good local gun smith who tells me he won't have any problems extricating that ball. Either way, I won't let the local gun shop off the hook...selling me a loaded rifle! Man oh man!  :twak:
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Reply #1856 on: October 28, 2015, 02:42:56 AM
This is in case you guys wondered what 60,000 dollars of expanded .50 BMG looked like.



Mere peanuts.

The M829E4 is a fifth-generation APFSDS-T cartridge consisting of a depleted-uranium, multi-segmented,[not in citation given] long rod penetrator with a three-petal composite sabot.[citation needed] The penetrator includes a low-drag fin with a tracer, and a windshield and tip assembly. Its propellant maintains consistent muzzle velocities across operational temperatures from −25 to 145 °F (−32 to 63 °C). The new Advanced Combustible Cartridge Case is similar to previous models but has a relocated skive joint placement for better crew-member safety during handling.[9] The initial order for 2,501 M829E4 rounds in 2014 had a unit cost of $10,100 each.[5] On 20 July 2015, Orbital ATK announced that the M829E4 had passed First Article Acceptance Testing and was entering production.[10] On 12 October 2015, Orbital ATK announced the round had recently received type classification as the M829A4, and was awarded a full-rate production contract to begin in early 2016.[11]

True they don't cost much compared to tank and arty rounds but we sure had fun shooting them.

We also shot a ton of linked 40mm grenades but I have no idea how much they cost.


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Reply #1857 on: October 28, 2015, 02:47:33 AM
This is in case you guys wondered what 60,000 dollars of expanded .50 BMG looked like.



Mere peanuts.

The M829E4 is a fifth-generation APFSDS-T cartridge consisting of a depleted-uranium, multi-segmented,[not in citation given] long rod penetrator with a three-petal composite sabot.[citation needed] The penetrator includes a low-drag fin with a tracer, and a windshield and tip assembly. Its propellant maintains consistent muzzle velocities across operational temperatures from −25 to 145 °F (−32 to 63 °C). The new Advanced Combustible Cartridge Case is similar to previous models but has a relocated skive joint placement for better crew-member safety during handling.[9] The initial order for 2,501 M829E4 rounds in 2014 had a unit cost of $10,100 each.[5] On 20 July 2015, Orbital ATK announced that the M829E4 had passed First Article Acceptance Testing and was entering production.[10] On 12 October 2015, Orbital ATK announced the round had recently received type classification as the M829A4, and was awarded a full-rate production contract to begin in early 2016.[11]

True they don't cost much compared to tank and arty rounds but we sure had fun shooting them.

We also shot a ton of linked 40mm grenades but I have no idea how much they cost.

Fired the M79 and M203 grenade launchers. Never had a chance to play around with one of the full-auto ones.


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Reply #1858 on: October 28, 2015, 02:50:21 AM
This is in case you guys wondered what 60,000 dollars of expanded .50 BMG looked like.



Mere peanuts.

The M829E4 is a fifth-generation APFSDS-T cartridge consisting of a depleted-uranium, multi-segmented,[not in citation given] long rod penetrator with a three-petal composite sabot.[citation needed] The penetrator includes a low-drag fin with a tracer, and a windshield and tip assembly. Its propellant maintains consistent muzzle velocities across operational temperatures from −25 to 145 °F (−32 to 63 °C). The new Advanced Combustible Cartridge Case is similar to previous models but has a relocated skive joint placement for better crew-member safety during handling.[9] The initial order for 2,501 M829E4 rounds in 2014 had a unit cost of $10,100 each.[5] On 20 July 2015, Orbital ATK announced that the M829E4 had passed First Article Acceptance Testing and was entering production.[10] On 12 October 2015, Orbital ATK announced the round had recently received type classification as the M829A4, and was awarded a full-rate production contract to begin in early 2016.[11]

True they don't cost much compared to tank and arty rounds but we sure had fun shooting them.

We also shot a ton of linked 40mm grenades but I have no idea how much they cost.

Fired the M79 and M203 grenade launchers. Never had a chance to play around with one of the full-auto ones.

You haven't missed anything. They are jam prone junk.

Of course when you do get one running they are devastating. Just not something you want to rely on in combat.


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Reply #1859 on: October 28, 2015, 03:18:02 AM
Hey Chako, congrats on breaking 14k.. :cheers:
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