firearms

[captain spaulding]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

Its alright. You get one pass, but if there is a next time you have no excuse. 

[strmliner]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

[HarleyXJGuy]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

Lol, good point.

[Outback in Idaho]

  On another note...
 

  ... aliens wear sneakers?

[ColoSwiss]

  On another note...
 

  ... aliens wear sneakers?

Of course they do.

[ducttapetech]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

Maybe, but let's face it, JD has forgotten  more about weapon history and firearms than most of will ever know, put together.

Nate

[jerseydevil]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

Maybe, but let's face it, JD has forgotten  more about weapon history and firearms than most of will ever know, put together.

Nate

Thanks Nate.  I've been studying them since I was a little kid, learning how Dad's Mausers were different by helping him strip them down.....

[HarleyXJGuy]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

Maybe, but let's face it, JD has forgotten  more about weapon history and firearms than most of will ever know, put together.

Nate

Thanks Nate.  I've been studying them since I was a little kid, learning how Dad's Mausers were different by helping him strip them down.....

Maybe that old K98 is where you learned about clips?

[jerseydevil]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

Maybe, but let's face it, JD has forgotten  more about weapon history and firearms than most of will ever know, put together.

Nate

Thanks Nate.  I've been studying them since I was a little kid, learning how Dad's Mausers were different by helping him strip them down.....

Maybe that old K98 is where you learned about clips?

Technically those are actually known as chargers. "Stripper clip" is the American common name for them but is wrong. Most likely I learned about clips from the Mannlicher-Carcano and the M1 Garand. Those are properly called clips.

[Gareth]

So what's the difference between a clip and a charger?

[jerseydevil]

A charger holds cartridges that are fed into the weapon's magazine, and the charger is discarded. On a Mauser for example, there is a slot cut in the rear of the reciever. The charger is inserted into the slot, and the rounds pushed into the magazine with the thumb. Closing the action kicks the charger away and chambers a round.

A clip holds the rounds inside it and is inserted into the action en bloc. The clip remains in the magazine and rounds are fed out of it. When the last round is chambered, the clip is either ejected from the action (Garand) or is pushed out the bottom by the next inserted clip (Mannlicher).

Hope that helps.

[Gareth]

Makes perfect sence mate, thanks for the explination.

[HarleyXJGuy]

I can't believe I did that! I'm usually the first one to point that out! Sorry boys.

JD the MTO Firearms thread police. Has a certain ring to it.

Actually, I think the Captain has taken over that position here...

Maybe, but let's face it, JD has forgotten  more about weapon history and firearms than most of will ever know, put together.

Nate

Thanks Nate.  I've been studying them since I was a little kid, learning how Dad's Mausers were different by helping him strip them down.....

Maybe that old K98 is where you learned about clips?

Technically those are actually known as chargers. "Stripper clip" is the American common name for them but is wrong. Most likely I learned about clips from the Mannlicher-Carcano and the M1 Garand. Those are properly called clips.

I know, threw you a underhand pitch.

This is the JD we all know.

[jerseydevil]

redemption!

[HarleyXJGuy]

redemption!

Lol.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Don't think I ever posted my carry rig.

[raistlin65]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

In the immortal words of Paul Harvey, now for the rest of the story. (you might have to be a middle aged or older to get this reference )

I actually ordered this about three weeks ago. My FFL is a retired LEO who lives about mile or so away and has his FFL just to make a little bit extra cash to support his hobby in his retirement. Much better price on the transfer fee, super convenient, and a great guy. Usually we chat for 15 or 20 minutes every time I do a transfer with him. Kinda like hanging out with all the good people on this forum 

When I emailed him to ask if he was around to do the transfer, he said yes and to go ahead and place the order. Then he let me know that he was in the hospital overnight having tests for chest pains (everything turned out OK there). We were chatting back and forth by email since he was stuck in the hospital. I told him he ought to watch that Hickok45 video, and he told me the Internet nanny software in the hospital blocked everything to do with handguns. Had a laugh over that, and since I know he likes 45s, and figured I could cheer him up a little, I told him "Well, since you can't watch the video, when the PPQ 45 comes in, I'll come get the registration paper work and you keep it for a couple of weeks and test it first since I'm going out of town." I've been to his house, seen it, and completed the registration paperwork, but he's had it since.

He finally made it to the range yesterday. He just emailed me and said, "That baby is a tack driver.  I don't think I have ever shot a grouping as tight as that at 25 yards.  I have to get me one of those!" I'm afraid his wife will be upset with me since I just enabled him in finding a new handgun to purchase (lol).

[SAK Guy]

Don't think I ever posted my carry rig.

Nice rig!!

[SAK Guy]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

In the immortal words of Paul Harvey, now for the rest of the story. (you might have to be a middle aged or older to get this reference )

I actually ordered this about three weeks ago. My FFL is a retired LEO who lives about mile or so away and has his FFL just to make a little bit extra cash to support his hobby in his retirement. Much better price on the transfer fee, super convenient, and a great guy. Usually we chat for 15 or 20 minutes every time I do a transfer with him. Kinda like hanging out with all the good people on this forum 

When I emailed him to ask if he was around to do the transfer, he said yes and to go ahead and place the order. Then he let me know that he was in the hospital overnight having tests for chest pains (everything turned out OK there). We were chatting back and forth by email since he was stuck in the hospital. I told him he ought to watch that Hickok45 video, and he told me the Internet nanny software in the hospital blocked everything to do with handguns. Had a laugh over that, and since I know he likes 45s, and figured I could cheer him up a little, I told him "Well, since you can't watch the video, when the PPQ 45 comes in, I'll come get the registration paper work and you keep it for a couple of weeks and test it first since I'm going out of town." I've been to his house, seen it, and completed the registration paperwork, but he's had it since.

He finally made it to the range yesterday. He just emailed me and said, "That baby is a tack driver.  I don't think I have ever shot a grouping as tight as that at 25 yards.  I have to get me one of those!" I'm afraid his wife will be upset with me since I just enabled him in finding a new handgun to purchase (lol).

Can't wait to see pics and hear all about it!!!! 

[ironraven]

Harley, who's your kydex bender?

[raistlin65]

Hickok45 sold me on the Walther PPQ 45:





Picking it up this week.

In the immortal words of Paul Harvey, now for the rest of the story. (you might have to be a middle aged or older to get this reference )

I actually ordered this about three weeks ago. My FFL is a retired LEO who lives about mile or so away and has his FFL just to make a little bit extra cash to support his hobby in his retirement. Much better price on the transfer fee, super convenient, and a great guy. Usually we chat for 15 or 20 minutes every time I do a transfer with him. Kinda like hanging out with all the good people on this forum 

When I emailed him to ask if he was around to do the transfer, he said yes and to go ahead and place the order. Then he let me know that he was in the hospital overnight having tests for chest pains (everything turned out OK there). We were chatting back and forth by email since he was stuck in the hospital. I told him he ought to watch that Hickok45 video, and he told me the Internet nanny software in the hospital blocked everything to do with handguns. Had a laugh over that, and since I know he likes 45s, and figured I could cheer him up a little, I told him "Well, since you can't watch the video, when the PPQ 45 comes in, I'll come get the registration paper work and you keep it for a couple of weeks and test it first since I'm going out of town." I've been to his house, seen it, and completed the registration paperwork, but he's had it since.

He finally made it to the range yesterday. He just emailed me and said, "That baby is a tack driver.  I don't think I have ever shot a grouping as tight as that at 25 yards.  I have to get me one of those!" I'm afraid his wife will be upset with me since I just enabled him in finding a new handgun to purchase (lol).

Can't wait to see pics and hear all about it!!!! 

There will be no target pictures of my lousy marksmanship (lol).

But I will share a picture of the PPQ 45

[HarleyXJGuy]

Harley, who's your kydex bender?

Raven Concealment.

Very well made.

[Outback in Idaho]

 Old World Shotgun Slugs?

 

[SAK Guy]

Old World Shotgun Slugs?

 

Great Video!!!!
+ SWISS ARMY KNIFE SIGHTING!!!!!

 

[Humppa]

I miss Barry from Iraqveteran8888. He was a great guy it seemed 

Well... I need your experiences guys. I´m a rifleshooter by passion. The round can´t be too hard for me and not kicking me around too much... I like .458 WinMag.

But I have no experience in short guns. Pistols and revolvers. I´d like to get myself a revolver next year. Just for target shooting at 25 metres it should be. No IPSC or 3gun or whatsoever. Caliber - .357 Mag (.38Spec.) it should be.

I read many magazines and articles. It should be a 6" barrel. So Ruger and S&W will come in mind. Also Colt, the Python is a classic - but since they ran out of business replacement parts will be hard to get. At least here in Germany. So no deal for me.

On that S&W the 686 or 586 seem to be great for this. But the Ruger GP100 also seems to fit. I´ve shot the 686 many times by a buddy of mine and I really like it. No chance to shoot the Ruger, yet.

What´s the big difference in Ruger vs. S&W?

And yes, the caliber .357 Mag would be nice. The ammunition is cheap to come by here. And you have thousands of handload parts around. so no big deal at all. Other calibers that are common are not so common here like .45Colt. Or even .44Mag will cost a bunch more. So the good ol' reliable .357Mag will make a good deal for me.

I´m not a fan of semi-auto pistols. So a revolver will be my way to go.

[HarleyXJGuy]

I miss Barry from Iraqveteran8888. He was a great guy it seemed 

Well... I need your experiences guys. I´m a rifleshooter by passion. The round can´t be too hard for me and not kicking me around too much... I like .458 WinMag.

But I have no experience in short guns. Pistols and revolvers. I´d like to get myself a revolver next year. Just for target shooting at 25 metres it should be. No IPSC or 3gun or whatsoever. Caliber - .357 Mag (.38Spec.) it should be.

I read many magazines and articles. It should be a 6" barrel. So Ruger and S&W will come in mind. Also Colt, the Python is a classic - but since they ran out of business replacement parts will be hard to get. At least here in Germany. So no deal for me.

On that S&W the 686 or 586 seem to be great for this. But the Ruger GP100 also seems to fit. I´ve shot the 686 many times by a buddy of mine and I really like it. No chance to shoot the Ruger, yet.

What´s the big difference in Ruger vs. S&W?

And yes, the caliber .357 Mag would be nice. The ammunition is cheap to come by here. And you have thousands of handload parts around. so no big deal at all. Other calibers that are common are not so common here like .45Colt. Or even .44Mag will cost a bunch more. So the good ol' reliable .357Mag will make a good deal for me.

I´m not a fan of semi-auto pistols. So a revolver will be my way to go.

You can not go wrong with either the 686 or Ruger.

Both are built like a bank vault and will last  for you and your grandkids many years.

Imo the big difference between the two is being able to find a knowledgeable gunsmith for the Smith would be a bit easier. Not to say there isn't some very good Ruger Smith's out there.

That said I am a Ruger fanboy so it is a easy choice for me.

[Chako]

When it was time to buy a revolver, I tried everything my local gun shop had in stock.

This is what I found.

1. S&W has the better trigger feel. In my neck of the woods, S&W are more expensive than Rugers and Taurus.

2. Ruger has a slightly less quality feel to their triggers, but the build quality is right up there. In fact, Ruger is known for overbuilding their products which is also a good thing to be known for. The Rugers tend to be less expensive than S&W generally in my neck of the woods.

3. Taurus felt cheaper and also suffered from a less than stellar trigger. Taurus is a lot cheaper than Ruger and S&W here.

4. Charter Arms felt very much like Taurus.

This is just my thoughts on the various examples I was allowed to dry fire and hold at the local shop. I ended up buying a used S&W 586...but I would have been more than happy with a Ruger. The Taurus and Charter Arms just didn't feel as good as the others mentioned here. I must say, with that said, the extra round in the 7 shot Taurus revolver made my decision a little hard at the time. However, that smooth as butter trigger of the used S&W which was more expensive than the new Taurus, coupled with the lack of speed loaders that I could source locally for the Taurus decided it for me.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Chako has some good points.

I also forgot to add if you want a target only revolver in .38 /.357 you would be remiss to not include a Ruger New Vaquero as a possible option.

Over built, beautiful with a modern transfer bar so it can be carried with 6 rounds loaded. Trigger being single action only is pretty good right out of the box.

[Outback in Idaho]

 .50 BMG vs. Block of Magnesium

 

[ColoSwiss]

I'm a big fan of Smith & Wesson. Triggers are generally better than Ruger and I also prefer the way they handle. Rugers are solid as a tank, and can readily be disassembled for cleaning.

Try and handle both.

S&W 617 .22LR