firearms

[Humppa]

Got myself a Mosin Nagant M44 recently.

What a fine rifle. It has the Nr. 11 stamped on it. This means it was  made in Poland at the Radom facility. And a mighty fine gun.
But some jerk used to fire corrosive ammo out of it. The barrel got some rust and pitting. I used to clean it hard. But there was still rust.

Then I had enough. Put the gun, went to the range and did dome firing.

Nice feeling so far. The best surprise was the target at 100 metres. The target picture was great. All in a circle of about 10 cm diameter.
I was a little off center, about 30 cm to left. But in a great circle of 10 cm at 10-shot-group.

I used non-corrosive ammo. With 180grs FMJ by S&B, Pretty heavy bullets and a wonderful recoil.

At the end of the day, the barrel was clean and no more rust inside the barrel.

So I finally I tried to adjust the front sight. But it sat tight. Well... that concerned me and I did some research online.
Got myself a front-sight-adjustment (in Germany it is called Kornschieber).

Need to get on the range soon and do some more testing.

But still... my favorite is my WWII K98k. With its new barrel and a mighty fine recoil and a target picture at 10 metres.

[Gareth]

I suspect hitting a skunk with a .45 means it's definitely not getting up again.

LOL, +1, a fact I was very glad of when I went over and poked him with a shovel. 

I hope you took appropriate precautions.

[SAK Guy]

    Great!!!! 

[SAK Guy]

.45s work great for vermin control.

   

[SAK Guy]

Got myself a Mosin Nagant M44 recently.

What a fine rifle. It has the Nr. 11 stamped on it. This means it was  made in Poland at the Radom facility. And a mighty fine gun.
But some jerk used to fire corrosive ammo out of it. The barrel got some rust and pitting. I used to clean it hard. But there was still rust.

Then I had enough. Put the gun, went to the range and did dome firing.

Nice feeling so far. The best surprise was the target at 100 metres. The target picture was great. All in a circle of about 10 cm diameter.
I was a little off center, about 30 cm to left. But in a great circle of 10 cm at 10-shot-group.

I used non-corrosive ammo. With 180grs FMJ by S&B, Pretty heavy bullets and a wonderful recoil.

At the end of the day, the barrel was clean and no more rust inside the barrel.

So I finally I tried to adjust the front sight. But it sat tight. Well... that concerned me and I did some research online.
Got myself a front-sight-adjustment (in Germany it is called Kornschieber).

Need to get on the range soon and do some more testing.

But still... my favorite is my WWII K98k. With its new barrel and a mighty fine recoil and a target picture at 10 metres.

  Awesome!!!!!! You have some fine rifles Andi!!! 

[ironraven]

Oh, I did something fiscally unsound.

I just put a 100 down on a Glock 17. $400, and it's very clean, three mags, the - disconnector and Glock's extended slide release. My G19 has been wanting a big brother for a while.

[SAK Guy]

Oh, I did something fiscally unsound.

I just put a 100 down on a Glock 17. $400, and it's very clean, three mags, the - disconnector and Glock's extended slide release. My G19 has been wanting a big brother for a while.

Sounds great!!! 

[cbl51]

Oh, I did something fiscally unsound.

I just put a 100 down on a Glock 17. $400, and it's very clean, three mags, the - disconnector and Glock's extended slide release. My G19 has been wanting a big brother for a while.

It's never an unsound choice to buy a Glock.

[Alan K.]

I don't know about that.  I'm worried how my Sigs might feel if I brought home a Glock.  After so many years together I have to take their feelings into consideration.  It's only right.
 

[Chako]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

[ColoSwiss]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

Same here. Grew up around 1911s and Browning Hi-Powers, and the Glock's grip angle feels totally wrong. Also don't care for their mushy triggers.

[SAK Guy]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

Same here. Grew up around 1911s and Browning Hi-Powers, and the Glock's grip angle feels totally wrong. Also don't care for their mushy triggers.

+1000!!!!! After 40+ years of shooting Browning designs, like Karl said, the grip angle is very unnatural. I automatically present high with them. Would take me years of training with one to be able to overcome that. If I was going with a polymer frame pistol, something like a Springfield Armory XD or HK USP would make more sense.

[ColoSwiss]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

Same here. Grew up around 1911s and Browning Hi-Powers, and the Glock's grip angle feels totally wrong. Also don't care for their mushy triggers.

+1000!!!!! After 40+ years of shooting Browning designs, like Karl said, the grip angle is very unnatural. I automatically present high with them. Would take me years of training with one to be able to overcome that. If I was going with a polymer frame pistol, something like a Springfield Armory XD or HK USP would make more sense.

My current pistols:  S&W 686, HK USP Tactical, CZ 75 Shadow.

Really like the HK. Have shot Springfields on a couple of occasions and don't care for them. Another good polymer frame pistol is the CZ P-07. SIGs have a good reputation, but never feel right in my hand (strictly personal).

[SAK Guy]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

Same here. Grew up around 1911s and Browning Hi-Powers, and the Glock's grip angle feels totally wrong. Also don't care for their mushy triggers.

+1000!!!!! After 40+ years of shooting Browning designs, like Karl said, the grip angle is very unnatural. I automatically present high with them. Would take me years of training with one to be able to overcome that. If I was going with a polymer frame pistol, something like a Springfield Armory XD or HK USP would make more sense.

My current pistols:  S&W 686, HK USP Tactical, CZ 75 Shadow.

Really like the HK. Have shot Springfields on a couple of occasions and don't care for them. Another good polymer frame pistol is the CZ P-07. SIGs have a good reputation, but never feel right in my hand (strictly personal).

      Hey Karl, how does that HK point? I'm leaning toward one of those after I read about the HK23 military tests and how well weather proofed they are on the inside...it uses a Browning cam lock design up too which is familiar to me.

[Humppa]

Well, I´m a rifle guy. Not so much a fan of these pistols and revolvers in general.
One thing is that the short-weapons are hard to get here. Many authority work and the storage and all these things.

But I´ve tried the USP much in past of a co-shooter of mine.

It takes the target as it should. It is a fine polymer pistol. One of the best I´ve shot yet. But you should also take a chance to the H&K P30. Nice and fine made gun.
IMO these polymer pistols are not that accurate than a full-steel-pistol a la 1911. But that´s just me.

For a real target pistol, I highly recommend a Walther GSP in .22lr or .32. It makes a fine target pistol.

But it depends on what you wanna use it for.

The polymer pistols I´ve shot are made of cast-cink or cast-aluminium. Mostly the cheaper ones are no great deal...

The SIGs are so well made and I highly recommend them. IIRC the SIG 210 Legend made in Eckernförde, Germany is chunk of steel but incredible nicely made.

Carry guns are a no-go here. So I can only talk about target guns due to the strict gun laws.

[SAK Guy]

Well, I´m a rifle guy. Not so much a fan of these pistols and revolvers in general.
One thing is that the short-weapons are hard to get here. Many authority work and the storage and all these things.

But I´ve tried the USP much in past of a co-shooter of mine.

It takes the target as it should. It is a fine polymer pistol. One of the best I´ve shot yet. But you should also take a chance to the H&K P30. Nice and fine made gun.
IMO these polymer pistols are not that accurate than a full-steel-pistol a la 1911. But that´s just me.

For a real target pistol, I highly recommend a Walther GSP in .22lr or .32. It makes a fine target pistol.

But it depends on what you wanna use it for.

The polymer pistols I´ve shot are made of cast-cink or cast-aluminium. Mostly the cheaper ones are no great deal...

The SIGs are so well made and I highly recommend them. IIRC the SIG 210 Legend made in Eckernförde, Germany is chunk of steel but incredible nicely made.

Carry guns are a no-go here. So I can only talk about target guns due to the strict gun laws.

Thanks for the feedback Andi!!!!  I always wanted a Sig P-210 till I priced one 20 years ago....I can't imagine what they cost now! 

I don't shoot targets anymore so just dispatching the odd skunk etc., or impressing a Mutant Zombie, Biker Gang at the front gate is about all I would use it for!   

[ColoSwiss]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

Same here. Grew up around 1911s and Browning Hi-Powers, and the Glock's grip angle feels totally wrong. Also don't care for their mushy triggers.

+1000!!!!! After 40+ years of shooting Browning designs, like Karl said, the grip angle is very unnatural. I automatically present high with them. Would take me years of training with one to be able to overcome that. If I was going with a polymer frame pistol, something like a Springfield Armory XD or HK USP would make more sense.

My current pistols:  S&W 686, HK USP Tactical, CZ 75 Shadow.

Really like the HK. Have shot Springfields on a couple of occasions and don't care for them. Another good polymer frame pistol is the CZ P-07. SIGs have a good reputation, but never feel right in my hand (strictly personal).

      Hey Karl, how does that HK point? I'm leaning toward one of those after I read about the HK23 military tests and how well weather proofed they are on the inside...it uses a Browning cam lock design up too which is familiar to me.

The HK points great for me. Here's a photo from a while back: 50 rounds through the HK at 25 feet, Weaver stance. Not too bad, considering my eye sight, breath control and trigger control are all heading down the tube.

One point, the USP has a double recoil spring, with the inner spring acting as a buffer. Very pleasant to shoot. The HK P-30 has a better safety if you want to carry 'cocked-and-locked', but substantially sharper muzzle flip.

Would love to have a SIG 210, but not for the price of three or four other decent pistols. Maybe when I win the lottery... 

[ironraven]

I was all set to hate Glocks. My sidearm for years was a Hi-Power. Then times got tight after I went back to college and I was given a really good offer on it and it paid for a semesters worth of books and car insurance. It was a VERY good deal. But I never liked the 1911- short thumbs, hard to reach the safety without changing my grip.

Then I shot my brother's Glock, and I was really impressed. Shot a couple more. And a lot more. And then one told me its name and I kind of had to let me follow it home. The grip angle took a little bit to get used to, but it's hard to argue with the realiability. I have had only two failures to feed, both tied to a bad mag, with my G19. My Hi Power... not quite as much.

The polymer pistols I´ve shot are made of cast-cink or cast-aluminium. Mostly the cheaper ones are no great deal...

Neither zinc nor aluminum are polymers

[SAK Guy]

I don't know if I am in the minority here, but I can't get along with a Glock ergonomically. When I first got into firearms, I had a choice of going with a Glock, or an M&P. The S&W won out.

Same here. Grew up around 1911s and Browning Hi-Powers, and the Glock's grip angle feels totally wrong. Also don't care for their mushy triggers.

+1000!!!!! After 40+ years of shooting Browning designs, like Karl said, the grip angle is very unnatural. I automatically present high with them. Would take me years of training with one to be able to overcome that. If I was going with a polymer frame pistol, something like a Springfield Armory XD or HK USP would make more sense.

My current pistols:  S&W 686, HK USP Tactical, CZ 75 Shadow.

Really like the HK. Have shot Springfields on a couple of occasions and don't care for them. Another good polymer frame pistol is the CZ P-07. SIGs have a good reputation, but never feel right in my hand (strictly personal).

      Hey Karl, how does that HK point? I'm leaning toward one of those after I read about the HK23 military tests and how well weather proofed they are on the inside...it uses a Browning cam lock design up too which is familiar to me.

The HK points great for me. Here's a photo from a while back: 50 rounds through the HK at 25 feet, Weaver stance. Not too bad, considering my eye sight, breath control and trigger control are all heading down the tube.

One point, the USP has a double recoil spring, with the inner spring acting as a buffer. Very pleasant to shoot. The HK P-30 has a better safety if you want to carry 'cocked-and-locked', but substantially sharper muzzle flip.

Would love to have a SIG 210, but not for the price of three or four other decent pistols. Maybe when I win the lottery... 

   Great info and awesome group bud!!!!    I'll take easy shooting over easy carry at this point in life.     The USP is looking good.

[Humppa]

The polymer pistols I´ve shot are made of cast-cink or cast-aluminium. Mostly the cheaper ones are no great deal...

Neither zinc nor aluminum are polymers

LOL!! Do you really think I don´t know that? Well, I have taken it out of the context. 

The grip is made of polymer and the reciever is made of cast metal. Not made very well. I speak of some of the Walther, GSP and such guns. The reciever tends to get cracked after some years of consequent usage. A milled out piece of steel is another point on a gun and I don´t just speak of the barrel.
The very same with rifles. In general too much plastic on guns nowadays, at least mostly.

I can just speak for rifles, but I doubt that the H&K G36 will shoot in 100 years as the G98 still does today. In my memory, my time in the German Armed Forces (Bundeswehr) we had the G36 and we got handed out the G3 at some points as well. The G36 was like a toy gun. Nowadays our troops in Afghanistan run around with this gun and there are reports about not firing accuately especially after full-auto firing due to some hot barrels. I´m not a fan of the .223 Rem either but that´s just me again and another topic.

All I want to say with this is, I trust much more in full metal guns in general. Every polymer is just plastic in my eyes and no big deal on a gun. Plain Ol' Metal & Wood Is The Way To Go.

[SAK Guy]

Yeah, gonna have to break out the night vision gear.....

Wow, that sounded so cool that I'm actually going to have to buy some so I really can break it out!

[SAK Guy]

Just walked by the door and.....two Racoons on the porch looking for cat food. 

[ColoSwiss]

Used to regularly see raccoons and skunks under the bird feed. Fun to watch their interaction. New neighbors on two sides have dogs, and haven't seen any wildlife in months.

[Marius]

Here are mine right now. Three S&W wheel guns: a K22 Masterpiece from the 50s, a Model 19.3 snub in .357 Magnum from the 70s and a new Classic line Model 36 Chiefs Special. And one Uberti Colt 1861 Navy replica (black powder, ball and cap). Shooting them all, except not yet the 1861 Navy that I just got.

[Marius]

My current pistols:  S&W 686, HK USP Tactical, CZ 75 Shadow.

The HK points great for me. Here's a photo from a while back: 50 rounds through the HK at 25 feet, Weaver stance. Not too bad, considering my eye sight, breath control and trigger control are all heading down the tube.

Karl, this looks quite impressive to me. Not bad at all! I'd also say that experience can compensate for loss of said physical abilities Too bad we are too far away, I'd love to have the chance to go shooting together.

[SAK Guy]

Here are mine right now. Three S&W wheel guns: a K22 Masterpiece from the 50s, a Model 19.3 snub in .357 Magnum from the 70s and a new Classic line Model 36 Chiefs Special. And one Uberti Colt 1861 Navy replica (black powder, ball and cap). Shooting them all, except not yet the 1861 Navy that I just got.

Very nice!!! 

[Gerhard Gerber]

My cousin just bought a 30/30 Winchester from his aging landlord, I am severely and deeply jealous! 

[ColoSwiss]

My current pistols:  S&W 686, HK USP Tactical, CZ 75 Shadow.

The HK points great for me. Here's a photo from a while back: 50 rounds through the HK at 25 feet, Weaver stance. Not too bad, considering my eye sight, breath control and trigger control are all heading down the tube.

Karl, this looks quite impressive to me. Not bad at all! I'd also say that experience can compensate for loss of said physical abilities Too bad we are too far away, I'd love to have the chance to go shooting together.

You've got some very nice stuff. Would be fun to get out together.   

[David]

The Chip McCormick Power Mag functioned flawlessly with hardball late yesterday afternoon . This skunk was coming right up on the front porch and eating cat food. My Mom became afraid to go outside after about 4pm and having cats and small dogs, the rabies risk was real so I had to do something.

Been watching him for several days and he usually stayed where there was no safe shot and then quickly disappeared. But yesterday, he changed his routine just long enough for me to get out the door and line up a shot as he was leaving. The .45 was close by (no time to drag out and load the .22 rifle) and the mags functioned flawlessly. He was moving away fast at about 14 yards. Took a couple of shots. Probably the first time in nearly 3 years that I had shot the 1911. Was glad to see it's like riding a bike for me.

I walked further down the porch and took a pic.

Good shootin Robert!         skunks are the biggest carrier of rabies around here.

[SAK Guy]

The Chip McCormick Power Mag functioned flawlessly with hardball late yesterday afternoon . This skunk was coming right up on the front porch and eating cat food. My Mom became afraid to go outside after about 4pm and having cats and small dogs, the rabies risk was real so I had to do something.

Been watching him for several days and he usually stayed where there was no safe shot and then quickly disappeared. But yesterday, he changed his routine just long enough for me to get out the door and line up a shot as he was leaving. The .45 was close by (no time to drag out and load the .22 rifle) and the mags functioned flawlessly. He was moving away fast at about 14 yards. Took a couple of shots. Probably the first time in nearly 3 years that I had shot the 1911. Was glad to see it's like riding a bike for me.

I walked further down the porch and took a pic.

Good shootin Robert!         skunks are the biggest carrier of rabies around here.

Thanks David!!!  They are around here too...there were two more on the porch tonight. We put a drop of ionic silver in the cats water a couple times a week to try and negate any transmission to the cats till I can resolve the problem.  They used to show up around 4-4:30pm but now it's later, closer to 6:30-7pm. Makes the shot in the dark now.