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Re: firearms
« Reply #2970 on: March 09, 2017, 07:35:16 PM »
Update on my Shield situation:

Heard from the gun store owner i bought the gun from who I was having shoot my gun for diagnosis. He shot 200-250 rounds through the gun until, get this....


The frame cracked.

Yup. My brand new S&W M&P, performance center no less, frame cracked at 800 or so rounds. That being said, I completely trust the guy who was shooting it. He seems like a great guy and definitely knows his firearms and how to handle them, so I am not faulting him at all for this. He is also handling this situation very well for me. He is going to deal with S&W directly with the faulty gun and as soon as he gets another of these guns in stock, he will give it to me (with paperwork and everything of course) He has been great to deal with through the whole process.

So, when I get my 2nd brand new Shield I will post another update.

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Re: firearms
« Reply #2971 on: March 09, 2017, 07:38:21 PM »
Update on my Shield situation:

Heard from the gun store owner i bought the gun from who I was having shoot my gun for diagnosis. He shot 200-250 rounds through the gun until, get this....


The frame cracked.

Yup. My brand new S&W M&P, performance center no less, frame cracked at 800 or so rounds. That being said, I completely trust the guy who was shooting it. He seems like a great guy and definitely knows his firearms and how to handle them, so I am not faulting him at all for this. He is also handling this situation very well for me. He is going to deal with S&W directly with the faulty gun and as soon as he gets another of these guns in stock, he will give it to me (with paperwork and everything of course) He has been great to deal with through the whole process.

So, when I get my 2nd brand new Shield I will post another update.

OK not heard of that before, good to hear you have a good gunshop to deal with  :tu:

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Re: firearms
« Reply #2972 on: March 09, 2017, 08:32:26 PM »
Wow, that's disappointing. :-\

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« Reply #2973 on: March 09, 2017, 09:21:40 PM »
Here is a picture that he sent.

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« Reply #2974 on: March 09, 2017, 10:44:26 PM »
Bloody hell.:o  I though we were talking about some hairline crack, not the grand canyon! :ahhh

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« Reply #2975 on: March 09, 2017, 10:48:12 PM »
Good job that didn't fail while you were using it  :tu:

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Re: firearms
« Reply #2976 on: March 10, 2017, 12:43:46 AM »
Good job that didn't fail while you were using it  :tu:

+1  Yikes!

Maybe you need to consider trading the replacement in on something else.
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Re: firearms
« Reply #2977 on: March 10, 2017, 01:06:10 AM »
Good job that didn't fail while you were using it  :tu:

+1  Yikes!

Maybe you need to consider trading the replacement in on something else.
I would consider it but given the track record that s&w usually has and the fact that it is made in my own country I think I will stick with it. Plus the store owner didn't really offer to let me swap, he just offered me a new gun of the same model. If i were to swap though it would be for the Springfield xds.

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« Reply #2978 on: March 10, 2017, 02:45:16 AM »
I've seen polymer fail in that manner before. S&W Sigma, wasn't there when it happened but I've handled the corpse. You can find others like that. This looks like it sprung, the molding was wrong and the internal tensions were bad to begin with. Reason why Glock (both in Austria and the US made ones) get sonogrammed.

One question. Everything you fed it was jacketed, right? I've seen photos of a Glock that failed like this, after someone who couldn't read the manual had fed it a lot of soft cast bullets, not even gas checked. Ultimate THOU SHALT NOT with polygonal rifling- don't know if the M&P has that or not.

Also seen steel and aluminum frames fail more spectacularly.

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« Reply #2979 on: March 10, 2017, 03:29:51 AM »
Never been around when one let go (fortunately ) but have seen some of the results. Can happen with anything, but thankfully not common. Some years back in Virginia someone was killed when a shooter several lanes over put a modern load in an old damascus-barrel shotgun and it blew up.



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« Reply #2980 on: March 10, 2017, 04:59:05 AM »
I saw a post on twitter this morning that someone was confused as to the purpose of a four barrel rifle. It reminded me of the work by Johann Fanzoj and his Vierling safari rifle

http://www.fanzoj.com/en/...ther_rifles/vierling.html

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Re: firearms
« Reply #2981 on: March 10, 2017, 04:58:21 PM »
I've seen polymer fail in that manner before. S&W Sigma, wasn't there when it happened but I've handled the corpse. You can find others like that. This looks like it sprung, the molding was wrong and the internal tensions were bad to begin with. Reason why Glock (both in Austria and the US made ones) get sonogrammed.

One question. Everything you fed it was jacketed, right? I've seen photos of a Glock that failed like this, after someone who couldn't read the manual had fed it a lot of soft cast bullets, not even gas checked. Ultimate THOU SHALT NOT with polygonal rifling- don't know if the M&P has that or not.

Also seen steel and aluminum frames fail more spectacularly.

Everything that i fed through it was mainstream manufacturer fmj and just 5 jhps so everything was jacketed.

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« Reply #2982 on: March 13, 2017, 03:25:05 AM »
Geeze, how did I miss this!!!! :facepalm:


Wow!!!!

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Re: firearms
« Reply #2983 on: March 16, 2017, 02:36:39 PM »
Went to the range with my new shield and put 200 rounds through it. The action was much smoother, but the very first shot was a light primer strike (winchester 115 gr fmj). I had one more in the 200 rounds I shot. Will that go away as the gun breaks in? I don't know. Also, this one still does not return to battery on a press check unless I push it there. That part doesn't bother me, it was also like that with the old gun. What bothers me is the light primer strikes. Frustrated..... i really hope it is something that will go away as gun breaks in. The one on the right is unfired.

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« Reply #2984 on: March 16, 2017, 07:44:31 PM »
Glad it's running a bit better, though those light primer strikes are a bit worrisome.  Is it maybe a case of hard primers rather than a problem with the pistol?

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« Reply #2985 on: March 16, 2017, 07:55:50 PM »
Glad it's running a bit better, though those light primer strikes are a bit worrisome.  Is it maybe a case of hard primers rather than a problem with the pistol?
Quite possibly and I sure hope so. It was winchester ammo though which is usually fine

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« Reply #2986 on: March 16, 2017, 09:55:14 PM »
Gdoo, if you Google "S&W Shield light primer strikes" there's a bunch of hits.....

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« Reply #2987 on: March 17, 2017, 12:28:39 AM »
Yikes... well this is frustrating..

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« Reply #2988 on: March 17, 2017, 12:33:58 AM »
2 guns in a row? Please no.. maybe I should try to return it for something else.. ugh

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« Reply #2989 on: March 17, 2017, 01:48:28 AM »
Seems like you're snake-bit when it comes to S&W.

CZ makes some excellent pistols at very reasonable prices.
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« Reply #2990 on: March 17, 2017, 04:19:30 AM »
Seems like you're snake-bit when it comes to S&W.

CZ makes some excellent pistols at very reasonable prices.
I like the look of some CZs, I may check them out. I don't know if i will be allowed to really return it after 200 rounds though I may have to just swap it out again...

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« Reply #2991 on: March 17, 2017, 11:19:51 PM »
Maybe Smith will develop a heavier spring for that striker mechanism.....

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« Reply #2992 on: March 17, 2017, 11:37:38 PM »
Maybe Smith will develop a heavier spring for that striker mechanism.....
A heavier recoil spring too....

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« Reply #2993 on: March 17, 2017, 11:50:55 PM »
Maybe Smith will develop a heavier spring for that striker mechanism.....
A heavier recoil spring too....
(Image removed from quote.)

Lots of Shield recoil spring talk too.....this one was pretty informative as it lists the parts that will interchange between a reg M&P and a Shield.

http://smith-wessonforum....hield-recoil-springs.html

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« Reply #2994 on: March 21, 2017, 05:59:33 AM »
I have a buddy who chose the shield over a Glock 43 because he found it more comfortable in his hand and he hasn't had any problems with it but it was the off the shelf model and not performance center enhanced.  I don't know if that should make a difference.  You could try replacement springs. I'm sure someone makes them.
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« Reply #2995 on: March 22, 2017, 01:01:42 AM »
I called the guy at the gun shop and he said I should shoot it some more. I bought 100 more rounds, Remington this time instead of Winchester. This is getting expensive. Im going to have to start shooting less. 975 rounds bought in about a month and a half.. i just did the math.. geez

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« Reply #2996 on: March 22, 2017, 02:48:14 AM »
I called the guy at the gun shop and he said I should shoot it some more. I bought 100 more rounds, Remington this time instead of Winchester. This is getting expensive. Im going to have to start shooting less. 975 rounds bought in about a month and a half.. i just did the math.. geez

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« Reply #2997 on: March 22, 2017, 07:39:46 AM »
I called the guy at the gun shop and he said I should shoot it some more. I bought 100 more rounds, Remington this time instead of Winchester. This is getting expensive. Im going to have to start shooting less. 975 rounds bought in about a month and a half.. i just did the math.. geez

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« Reply #2998 on: March 22, 2017, 02:16:34 PM »
Thanks SAK guy and David!

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Re: firearms
« Reply #2999 on: March 22, 2017, 02:31:07 PM »
I called the guy at the gun shop and he said I should shoot it some more. I bought 100 more rounds, Remington this time instead of Winchester. This is getting expensive. Im going to have to start shooting less. 975 rounds bought in about a month and a half.. i just did the math.. geez

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