Cody Lundin has 23 items and Dave Canterbury has his 10 C's. Dave Canterbury's 10 C'sCutting toolCombustion deviceCoverContainerCordageCotton bandanaCompassCandlelightCanvas needleCargo tapeCody Lunden's Basic Survival Kit1 gallon zipper-lock bagsTincture of Iodine Tablets for water purificationPlastic Drinking Tube approx. 3 ft. in length2 unlubricated Condoms used as canteensOrange Flagging Tape used for signalingDental Floss can be used for sewing to fishing line.Duct Tape (the more the better IMO)Small Flashlight w/ spare bulb's n batteriesMagnesium Fire StarterBic LighterWooden Matches dipped in paraffinFirestarter Excellorent - cotton balls dipped in petroleum jellyMagnifying GlassEmergency Signal Mirror with sighting holeplastic whistleSpace Blanket single useHeavy Duty Space Blanket/ Tarp3 Heavy Duty 40-50 gallon plastic bagsParacord at least 50 ft.Extra Knife made with carbon steelBandanna brightly colored/non camoBasic First-Aid KitTopographical Map and Compass of the areaAnyone else use these guys lists to compile an outdoor pack?Anyone add something not on these lists?
so, they have no use for a mobile phone?
When it comes to gear lists, open ended is usually better as it lets you conform it to the environment. Although at some point one has to talk specifics and then a whole lotta crazy comes out.Here is another interesting spin on the subject that actually makes sense (too many people trying to sell their own acronyms if you ask me)
For me, I think of Dave's list as a very good starting point. 'You should have these categories covered'. I'm comfortable figuring out HOW I'll cover them on my own, but seeing other folks' lists (like Cody's) is a great source for thoughts on cheap, readily available, reliable, portable solutions.
Honestly, I can't even remember what STOP stands for. Outside of FUBAR, BOHICA and SNAFU, I'm not much for acronyms
I can just see Ron Hood licking his lips when talking about rats Rodents are plentiful almost everywhere, I have wire and braid for snares, but I've never snared a thing in my life!I got all-metal rat (x2) and mice (x2) traps to include in my kit....they don't weigh much.I got the idea looking at tracks in the sand early morning in a camp site.What do you think? Good weight or bad weight?
Even fishing is pretty much a waste of time in a survival scenario.
HiQuoteEven fishing is pretty much a waste of time in a survival scenario.Then the fishing must be tough.Water is scarce in this part of the world, but I'm pretty sure fishing is the easiest way to sustain yourself should you be close to any water.I guess it helps that the water doesn't freeze over here? Fishing might be slow during winter, but it doesn't go away completely.Edible local plants on the other hand are extremely limited.I know more edible plants than the average person, but as soon as you go below ground where the best stuff are, I'm lost.
My one big doubt stems from my size and the quantities I eat, even now while I'm losing weight.....I doubt I could sustain myself with 4 traps, even with 100% strike rate....
Sustain yourself for how long? 72 hours you're clear, 6 months, you're smurfed
I feel this confirms my statement area knowledge is everything, and what is right in Scandinavia isn't necessarily right in South-Africa. That said, why not learn about the good stuff below ground as well, then? Knowledge weighs less and is more valuable than traps.
Quote from: styx on July 07, 2015, 10:06:28 AMWhen it comes to gear lists, open ended is usually better as it lets you conform it to the environment. Although at some point one has to talk specifics and then a whole lotta crazy comes out.Here is another interesting spin on the subject that actually makes sense (too many people trying to sell their own acronyms if you ask me)Nice to see a vid without all the usual bravado and BS, and also that's generically themed rather than pushing specific products or brands Acronyms can be a useful aide memoir, but can you really rely on remembering them or what they stand for when the adrenaline is pumping, or you're tired, hungry, disoriented?Personally I have adopted or rather made myself a cue card. It's a small laminated credit sized card which has got a few prompters on it to help jumpstart my mind if the chips are down. It has got some of the common acronyms on, but as full words. Topics covered are reminders to stop and plan, first aid cues (CPR and hyperthermia), navigation, water, fire, heatloss awareness and prevention, general hazard awareness, shelter, signalling, food, basically a good cross section of what I'd need to get the old grey matter working for me rather than against me. It's not sentence based, but is just a collection of little prompters based around stuff that I know I already know, but might forget in the chaos of the moment.
I wonder if other very well known guys like Ron Hood, Ray Mears and Les Stroud ever put out a list like this
Acronyms can be a useful aide memoir, but can you really rely on remembering them or what they stand for when the adrenaline is pumping, or you're tired, hungry, disoriented?