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scotland Offline Gareth

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If you could have one MT wish.
on: August 11, 2015, 12:31:57 AM
What would it be?  I'm not talking about silly stuff like lightsabers in SAKs, a 24 piece socket set the size of a PST or a cocktail fork for your Leatherman. ::)

No, what I'm thinking about are things that don't seem unreasonable, but for whatever reason they've not been done yet.  So one that springs to mind is a plier head for the LM Micra.  For goodness sake, the Micra is one of the best selling LMs ever, they do two other mini-pliers, but for some reason never gave the Micra a chance.

Any others folks?
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #1 on: August 11, 2015, 01:00:08 AM
Im easy get rid of the serrated blade on my Surge so I can carry my saw and file at the same time. I would even pay good money for someone to custom fit one.


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #2 on: August 11, 2015, 01:07:41 AM
I like the Micra with pliers idea.  But I would say Rebar with scissors.  Preferable Victorinox scissors.


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #3 on: August 11, 2015, 02:06:45 AM
I know this is SUPER petty,  but I wish the Rebar would lay flat on all sides like the ST300 does.  for some reason that annoys me.  I love the rebar, and this is not a deal breaker, but I notice it EVERY TIME
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #4 on: August 11, 2015, 02:13:18 AM
Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #5 on: August 11, 2015, 03:55:43 AM
A homing Beacon so I could find them after I leave them someplace ridiculous........

In reality, I would like a stylus type poker for entering my PIN number on Interac machines and what not. Currently I use the TEC Accessories Centipede.


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #6 on: August 11, 2015, 04:48:05 AM
My wish might have more to do with the rest of the world than multis.

Perhaps if all fasteners were standard (with size variations for torque/size) the world could be a happier place.

ie, 4, 6, or 8mm Socket head. Piss off this Slot Head, Phillips, etc business.

then my Multi carry would in turn be simplified.

Is this a shot at free R&D for the manufacturers?
Bugger that!


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #7 on: August 11, 2015, 05:01:13 AM
Non scratch scales/covers on the micra and squirt series.

A multi tool handle on the 5 and 6 inch Knipex plier wrench frames.

A multi tool handle on Felco 5, 2 and 3 frames.
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 05:58:31 AM

Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)
id buy that! :)


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #9 on: August 11, 2015, 07:08:09 AM
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #10 on: August 11, 2015, 07:31:34 AM
Different plier head options in Leathermen.

Gerber's really onto something with the blunt head of the MP600. It's brilliant.

They were also onto it with the fishing head in a previous model; not sure why that didn't take off.

Their wire-stripper head in the ES4 Squirt is brilliant. I'd like to see bigger versions of that.

If I had to pick just one though, I'd pick a blunt, lineman-style pliers. Skip the gripper/large pliers part. Make a big beefy blunt tip and an anvil-type cutter, and forge it out of S30V. No head-thinning cutting inserts needed.

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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #11 on: August 11, 2015, 08:30:59 AM
I have many wishes, some are even reasonable :P

Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)
id buy that! :)
Me too

Not too small though. I think they should make it blade-less with metal file (with a diamond side please) and scissors for an overall smaller package.
I feel a smaller Spirit would be more directed at an urban crowd, so I'd choose a metal file over a wood saw and scissors over a blade.

And if we are at it, why not make different frame colors available?

 :gimme: :gimme: :gimme:
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #12 on: August 11, 2015, 09:48:15 AM
All I want is a deep-carry pocket clip on a Spirit.


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #13 on: August 11, 2015, 10:51:46 AM
A wider opening, bigger plier head (like the blunt MP 600) on the Swisstool and I could retire my MP 600.


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #14 on: August 11, 2015, 11:26:22 AM
Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)

me too,and wish the old wave had locks like the old supertool, :tu:


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Reply #15 on: August 11, 2015, 11:30:07 AM
Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)

me too,and wish the old wave had locks like the old supertool, :tu:

 :twak: Just one wish!

Kidding.  :D


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #16 on: August 11, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)


Agree completely with Al

Imagine how fantastic this would be.

How about 3 variations...
Needlenose
Blunt nose
Shears

 :drool:

I think if this ever came into being, it would quite possibly become my lifelong companion.

The juice concept is brilliant but the quality is smurfe, the spirit is amazing but fractionally too large for comfortable pocket carry.
Morph them together and we end up with an incredible EDC tool.

C'mon Vic  :pok: give it a go!!
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #17 on: August 11, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
I'd like to see an American-made all forged tool designed to last and designed to be carried in a good leather belt sheath and designed with swappable/replaceable components so you can buy the standard tool and also custom configure it however you want. And it should have some kind of flat surface for hammering, a pair of good scissors and a good combo-knife blade standard.
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)

me too,and wish the old wave had locks like the old supertool, :tu:

 :twak: Just one wish!

Kidding.  :D

ones never enough thomas  :rofl:


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #19 on: August 11, 2015, 04:06:01 PM
I have many wishes, some are even reasonable :P

Juice sized Victorinox Spirit (either knifeless, or non-locking blade)
id buy that! :)
Me too

Not too small though. I think they should make it blade-less with metal file (with a diamond side please) and scissors for an overall smaller package.
I feel a smaller Spirit would be more directed at an urban crowd, so I'd choose a metal file over a wood saw and scissors over a blade.

And if we are at it, why not make different frame colors available?

Bladeless  (or a bladeless version) is a great idea. A TSA-safe mini-Spirit X =  :drool:

With a deep pocket clip.
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #20 on: August 11, 2015, 04:50:33 PM
My MT wish would be for Victorinox to have the manufacturing rights for LM and Gerber.  I personally think the QC level would shoot up.

Oh, Gerber would still need to make the MP600 so it would stay clunky. :D


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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #21 on: August 11, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Normal Vic scissors in the Spirit.  I'm just eyeballin' it, but looks like 91mm scissors would fit... if not, then surely 84mm scissors would?  (If they still made 'em.)  It's not that the Spirit scissors are bad, they're just small.
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Reply #22 on: August 11, 2015, 10:13:06 PM
My MT wish would be for Victorinox to have the manufacturing rights for LM and Gerber.  I personally think the QC level would shoot up.

Oh, Gerber would still need to make the MP600 so it would stay clunky. :D


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They would shut down Gerber right away. Swiss don't like "high tolerance" designs.

Leatherman designs would probably stay the same, but would be polished like crazy. :D
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #23 on: August 11, 2015, 10:19:17 PM
Normal Vic scissors in the Spirit.  I'm just eyeballin' it, but looks like 91mm scissors would fit... if not, then surely 84mm scissors would?  (If they still made 'em.)  It's not that the Spirit scissors are bad, they're just small.

If the scissors from 91mm SAKs would fit, they would have done it, rather than spend resources to design completely new ones. Victorinox is the king of creating new models from the existing parts bins. It is The Swiss Way of business to develop a new design only once in a blue moon, then gradually refine it. One thing at a time, quality before quantity. Rolex does the same thing.

After seeing the reviews on YouTube, they look more like 'snips' than scissors. You know, for cutting loose threads and maybe the odd small cable tie here and there. But I can see how those expecting 'proper scissors' would be disappointed.

+1 on bringing back 84mm scissors. Or better yet, use Wenger's "springless" 85mm scissor design, so there isn't the relatively fragile leaf spring to break. But I think it is more likely they'd put the Spirit scissors in the 84mm SAKs than the other way around.
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #24 on: August 12, 2015, 05:10:10 AM
Sliding pliers head with sprung handles, SAK nested within the handles detachable for simultaneous pliers and SAK use. i.e. 2 separate tool entities for 2 hands or 2 user.
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #25 on: August 12, 2015, 05:26:08 AM
Normal Vic scissors in the Spirit.  I'm just eyeballin' it, but looks like 91mm scissors would fit... if not, then surely 84mm scissors would?  (If they still made 'em.)  It's not that the Spirit scissors are bad, they're just small.

If the scissors from 91mm SAKs would fit, they would have done it, rather than spend resources to design completely new ones. Victorinox is the king of creating new models from the existing parts bins. It is The Swiss Way of business to develop a new design only once in a blue moon, then gradually refine it. One thing at a time, quality before quantity. Rolex does the same thing.

After seeing the reviews on YouTube, they look more like 'snips' than scissors. You know, for cutting loose threads and maybe the odd small cable tie here and there. But I can see how those expecting 'proper scissors' would be disappointed.

I'm not sure I believe that "if they could have [reused a part], they would have" — going from the regular Swisstool to the Spirit, they changed almost every single tool.  (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=5232.0)  As you suggest, all of the changes are relatively gradual... except for the scissors!  :-)  But, I think it's a good idea to say that the scissors on the Spirit are meant to serve a different purpose than normal SAK scissors.  I haven't done any real tests, but they do feel tougher.  So maybe that's why they're so different from normal scissors.

Well, whatever the reason for the stubby snips is, I still wish for bigger scissors.  :tu:
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #26 on: August 12, 2015, 05:46:48 AM
MORE. RETAIL. STORES.

Or outlets.


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Reply #27 on: August 12, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
MORE. RETAIL. STORES.

Or outlets.

I'm sad to say, we've done this to ourselves.

I remember when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, there were knife shops in the malls in the US. I particularly remember them carrying SOG, and it was hard to find anything for less than about $60. With the development of the internet, people used those stores as a place to shop, then promptly went online to buy and save the mark-up that supported those stores.

So it's our fault; supply & demand. Now, YouTube reviews largely take the place of handling a knife or MT before purchase.

I try to support the local stores that carry MTs if they have what I want. Even if it means paying more. Otherwise, we won't have REIs or Erehwons any more, and the selection at Target and Walmart will get even WORSE. (or disappear completely)
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Reply #28 on: August 12, 2015, 03:49:02 PM
Sliding pliers head with sprung handles, SAK nested within the handles detachable for simultaneous pliers and SAK use. i.e. 2 separate tool entities for 2 hands or 2 user.

I think that's 2 wishes.  :twak:

For the first wish, are you aware of the the Leatherman OHT? Its head is slide-out (Gerber-style) and also sprung. It's kind of an ugly MT though, hehehe.
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Re: If you could have one MT wish.
Reply #29 on: August 12, 2015, 04:13:12 PM
Sliding pliers head with sprung handles, SAK nested within the handles detachable for simultaneous pliers and SAK use. i.e. 2 separate tool entities for 2 hands or 2 user.

I think that's 2 wishes.  :twak:

For the first wish, are you aware of the the Leatherman OHT? Its head is slide-out (Gerber-style) and also sprung. It's kind of an ugly MT though, hehehe.
Hahaha. I meant it to be one wish, one multitool with detachable tools.

The LM OHT is on the watchlist, it does look like an outlier in terms of LM MT aesthetics. For the easy of use with gloves, I might buy one soon. SOG PL and Paratool arrived today, not sure how much action they will get.
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