Has anyone ever had problems with the police about their mt / knife

[NG VI]

Never had that problem. I will not be searched unless I have committed a crime and since I do not break the law I will not be searched. Simple as that.

Back in my younger days I have been searched more than I like to admit, but the one and only time a police officer took any interest in the knife I was carrying was because he wanted to trade me his knife for mine.

That's a weighty assumption there, that only wrongdoers get searched or otherwise entangled with law enforcement.

Data shows there are plenty of U.S. LEAs that operate as a self-feeding monster, preying on their lower-status local residents and passing motorists to grow their budget and infrastructure.

 Of course most people become police because they want the 'social hygiene' aspect of the job, the chance to help people and enforce our collective sense of right, but you shouldn't assume every cop is a critical thinker and a reasonable actor 100% of the time.

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk

[NG VI]

Funny enough....

I was talking to one of our temps last week. He was rather impressed that I was using a 'proper knife' to cut up boxes(it was my Okapi biltong knife,just for the record),
He then noticed I have an EDC

He then told me about the police confiscating his LM Wingman.

Now,before we go any further,he didn't say what the circumstances were,what he was doing,what neighbourhood he's from,or what he'd said to the cop...

I also pointed out that technically,the Wingman is illegal to carry,and he kinda went 

Why is a multitool illegal to carry, or does the Wingman have a special feature??

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk
 Sorry bout the triple post I'm a noob.

[zoidberg]

Funny enough....

I was talking to one of our temps last week. He was rather impressed that I was using a 'proper knife' to cut up boxes(it was my Okapi biltong knife,just for the record),
He then noticed I have an EDC

He then told me about the police confiscating his LM Wingman.

Now,before we go any further,he didn't say what the circumstances were,what he was doing,what neighbourhood he's from,or what he'd said to the cop...

I also pointed out that technically,the Wingman is illegal to carry,and he kinda went 

Why is a multitool illegal to carry, or does the Wingman have a special feature??

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk
 Sorry bout the triple post I'm a noob.

It's probably the locking blade.

[zoidberg]

Don't worry about triple posting.

[zoidberg]

It just happens. 

[NG VI]

It just happens. 

So it does! Locking blades are a 'problem' all over aren't they?

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk

[zoidberg]

It just happens. 

So it does! Locking blades are a 'problem' all over aren't they?

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk

I'll just say yup and leave it at that. 

[Gerhard Gerber]

That makes more sense. Am I correct to believe that there are certain places where you are not allowed to take your gun like bars (because of the alcohol) and of course government buildings. So, you are forced to leave your gun behind in your car.

This is essentially correct.

Although, any business can post signs saying no firearms allowed. If you disobey those signs in Missouri, you can be politely asked to leave. If you do it multiple times, they can have law enforcement escort you off the premises.  If you disobey them in Illinois, you are stripped of your right to carry concealed, and may face jail time. BIG difference depending on what side of the Mississippi I'm on. Not that I'd intentionally carry into a business that prohibited it.

You also can't carry into public events, and a few other restricted areas. Then there are some weird 'you can't carry in pubic events, unless you're just passing through them...' kind of oddities. In Illinois, you can also carry a firearm unloaded, but with a loaded magazine in a 'separate container' in your vehicle, in which case it's not concealed carry but 'transporting'.

The laws are... uhh... 'confusing', and vary state to state.

The focus of the law this side seems to be the owner keeping control over the weapon.

If you're not carrying it, it should be in a safe (IF you have a carry permit)

I can understand that many people live in more civilized parts where personal property is respected, but locally leaving a firearm in a locked and alarmed car would still constitute negligence if stolen.  Given half a chance and a few seconds it will be....


I was a bit surprised to find out our police have the right to search, but if that ever happens to me in the areas I frequent, any attempt to confiscate a knife or multitool would very simply be theft, and I would not allow it.

[kirk13]

Funny enough....

I was talking to one of our temps last week. He was rather impressed that I was using a 'proper knife' to cut up boxes(it was my Okapi biltong knife,just for the record),
He then noticed I have an EDC

He then told me about the police confiscating his LM Wingman.

Now,before we go any further,he didn't say what the circumstances were,what he was doing,what neighbourhood he's from,or what he'd said to the cop...

I also pointed out that technically,the Wingman is illegal to carry,and he kinda went 

Why is a multitool illegal to carry, or does the Wingman have a special feature??

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk
 Sorry bout the triple post I'm a noob.

It's probably the locking blade.

Yep,what the lobster said

[aerojet]

Just a side bar comment to all above -

YES you do have to have "control" of your weapon at all times when you are carrying the thing. At least that is the law in this state. CCW laws vary by state and not are all uniform. I wish they were.

Leaving it in a locked and in an alarmed car or truck is not considered "under your control". It must be physically on your person at all times. 2) You can't bring a weapon like a firearm on school property. Having said that - this means you can't even LEAVE it it your car or truck even if it is in a locked safe attached to the vehicle. Working on school property, and we do 12 districts means the thing stays home if I am going to be over there - so work schedules need to be timed to get as  many school stops in one day and not on others.

I have been in the lock and alarm industry for now a good 50 years, yes you read that right, and I am still active every day working in it. Back in the day I also carried before there were anything like CCW, it was issued by the local police chief and I was a "sworn" reserve of the force under those terms. WHY? Repo work, evictions, and foreclosures.  One never knows when some goof will come back and go nuts when his property is taken legally by the system and who knows what he/she may do next. Now that CCW has been legalized, that old permit has been rescinded and I now need the thing.

AS fr as trains, I belong to a local club and we shoot "roster shots" of every locomotive number. Several of the pages on the web which this club posts are filled with many of my shots especially the new GEVO tier 4 locos. I seem to draw them. Out of the 45 or so numbers, the club has only found about 20 on the road - 6 of those shots of the locos actually on the lead are mine. SO I do take rail photos for a reason. Grand hobby if you love big things which move.

Finally, IF you ever do plan to carry, and if the world ended and you actually had to use the thing - be ready for the consequences. They are horrendous. Don't think it is like you see on TV, in the movies, or some stupid video game. It is what happens next which will determine whether you are cut loose, or have to face charges from everything from manslaughter - to - anything they can dredge up against you. for your peace of mind look into USCCA and get their insurance plan before you carry.

Be safe out there --

Wind to thy wings...

The Aerojet

[Mextreme]

Never had a problem.
Law says you can carry a folding knife or multitools for normal use.
No mention of blade lenght or locks. However the police can decide you carry it as a weapon if they feel so. Police here are pretty cool though and if you are too, it will never be a problem. It's all about your attitude.

[nmpops]

I was  a cop for 25 years and never arrested or hassled anyone for mere possession of a knife of any kind. Never came across anyone with an actual switchblade but in my state many knives fall into that catagory because they can be flipped open. But in New Mexico we consider knives normal to daily life.

[Mercury]

I've said it in other threads about this topic, if you look suspicious, knife laws are largely irrelevant.  If you are acting like a normal person and are compliant and sincerely polite to the LEO, then you won't get into any unwarranted trouble.  That doesn't mean you can carry a switchblade here in Tx, but I am confident that if I was found to have one(by accident, like the captain I don't break the law so I don't expect a search), then it would simply be confiscated.  Now, if I had a switchblade and I was hanging out behind a strangers house at night, then I might get a free ride in a cruiser. 

I don't carry anything that could be construed as a weapon in court, especially given how I use the items I carry.  I am also careful to carry what is defined as legal by my state's law, and in Texas now the State law supersedes all city laws regarding knives.  So to answer the original question, no, I have not had problems with the police for my MT or knife. 

If I moved to the UK(smirk if you want you turds, I'm thinkin about it!), I would adjust my carry accordingly.  I'm not so attached to any of my tools/knives that I can't adjust to civil and reasonable laws.  90% of the time I only need a SAK anyways, and by my estimate there aren't too many places where you can't carry one of those.

[Aloha]

I'm camouflaged ( I blend in ) so I have no reason to be stopped especially since I don't break the law.  When I did carry my Native I wasn't worried at all and I never give it a second thought about carrying my MT. I had mistakenly ( ignorant of the law ) carried my tools on my kids school campus every day I picked them up and no hassle ever.

I'd also don't ever foresee using my tools as self defense weapons so, nope no issues there either.

Now if I was stopped I'd treat the officer with respect and let him know if/when asked if I had anything sharp on me where they were located.  Simple enough to understand an officer has no clue why I'm carrying these tools so fair enough to be very cooperative.         

[jekostas]

No.

1.  I don't carry knives where it's prohibited.  Maybe I don't agree with the law but there are better ways to show your disapproval than be bullheaded about it.

2.  I have been asked to produce a knife at times when I was in a sketchy area (one of the offices I used to work out of).  You want a police officer to laugh?  Carry a pink Spyderco Squeak.

[sLaughterMed]

Nope. I live in Texas, which has pretty lax knife laws. The closest I have gotten to being in trouble over a knife was accidently bringing one into a circuit court to pay a traffic ticket.

[kirk13]

Nope. I live in Texas, which has pretty lax knife laws. The closest I have gotten to being in trouble over a knife was accidently bringing one into a circuit court to pay a traffic ticket.

r

You used a knife to pay a traffic fine? Cool!

[styx]

probably twice a week for a few years. but it wasn't a major issue as much as it was a hassle since i could easily prove it was just a tool of the trade and the cops were hyper vigilant for all the right reasons

[Aloha]

Nope. I live in Texas, which has pretty lax knife laws. The closest I have gotten to being in trouble over a knife was accidently bringing one into a circuit court to pay a traffic ticket.

r

You used a knife to pay a traffic fine? Cool!

Smart clerk 

[firiki]

I had a Classic confiscated when I was 14, I forgot to remove it before going to the stadium. I think he probably kept it for himself.

Living in a neighbourhood with a certain bad reputation where police frisking you wasn't (isn't) at all improbable, I stopped carrying a SAK in the city for a little more than ten years after that. Now I'm over 30 and I'm probably not in their first target group so I can happily carry my Pioneer+Rambler combo.

I still refuse to EDC a locking knife in the city or even one that looks menacing; I don't need one. The SAK will do most of what I want a pocket knife for and then some more. The Spirit I carry in my bag is kept in a place without immediate access to it (helps with pickpockets too) and I can argue that this is a multitool just like my SAK, only a different kind of multitool. This doesn't mean others can't covet, of course.

[sLaughterMed]

Nope. I live in Texas, which has pretty lax knife laws. The closest I have gotten to being in trouble over a knife was accidently bringing one into a circuit court to pay a traffic ticket.

r

You used a knife to pay a traffic fine? Cool!

Smart clerk 

Yep, went through real easy after I showed it off to him.Never seen a traffic clerk so happy to see me go 

[captain spaulding]

Never had that problem. I will not be searched unless I have committed a crime and since I do not break the law I will not be searched. Simple as that.

Back in my younger days I have been searched more than I like to admit, but the one and only time a police officer took any interest in the knife I was carrying was because he wanted to trade me his knife for mine.

That's a weighty assumption there, that only wrongdoers get searched or otherwise entangled with law enforcement.

Data shows there are plenty of U.S. LEAs that operate as a self-feeding monster, preying on their lower-status local residents and passing motorists to grow their budget and infrastructure.

 Of course most people become police because they want the 'social hygiene' aspect of the job, the chance to help people and enforce our collective sense of right, but you shouldn't assume every cop is a critical thinker and a reasonable actor 100% of the time.

Sent from my Z750C using Tapatalk

I think you are misinterpreting what I mean. I mean "I" as in myself will not let a police officer unlawfully search me. If they use force to do so then I will not resist and take legal action after the fact.

[ironraven]

I was told I shouldn't bring my pocket knife in the school when it is being used for polling place. By a sweet old lady with a Classic on the key ring attached to the keys at her feet. No fuss, no muss, probably 2/3s of the guys there had a knife there- I think she was talking about the leatherman on my belt.

[Weasel]

Ive never had a problem ive always carried what I like where I like (there just TOOLS) ive never seen them as anything else.

[Mercury]

I never advertise what I'm carrying.  I've carried my Leatherman into every school and classroom my son and daughter have had.

[classicrock]

Here in Indonesia we still have the 1951 Martial Law that prohibit us to carry any kind of knife (the description was too wide), unless we can prove that we carry the knife for legally working purpose (mechanic, technician...etc). But everyday I always carry a SAK and a plier based MT, I used to work at a car workshop as a service advisor.

Once I got body searched at 1.00 am when I have to drive to pass the state oil refinery road and the cops and armies were there to make a massive search. They look at my Swisschamp and ask about it. I answer them politely with a very calm gesture and they give the SC back to me.

The first thing here is don't say that the knife or MT is for self defense purpose. 100% you'll be in trouble. And also I avoid to carry a single folder because it will be difficult to me to give explanation to the cops.

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk

[BASguy]

Move to AZ.... No ridiculous rules about guns or knives.  No silly permission slips needed. 


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun

[captain spaulding]

Move to AZ.... No ridiculous rules about guns or knives.  No silly permission slips needed. 


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun

And less crime than areas with those restrictions. Who would of ever thought. 

[BASguy]

Move to AZ.... No ridiculous rules about guns or knives.  No silly permission slips needed. 


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun

And less crime than areas with those restrictions. Who would of ever thought. 

Seriously, that's true.  There's plenty of crime but it largely involves gang/drug stuff.  Individual violent crime is incredibly low statistically.  PHX is the 5th largest city in the USA and has almost negligible crime rates compared to those "gun free" zones like Washington DC, Chicago, etc.
Idiots....... Thanks, but no.  I'll stay in AZ


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun

[gregozedobe]

Move to AZ.... No ridiculous rules about guns or knives.  No silly permission slips needed. 

And less crime than areas with those restrictions. Who would of ever thought. 

It's easy to confuse cause and effect    I would suggest it may be because there is less of that sort of crime to begin with that there was less need for restrictions.