2010 Brown Pioneer

[meanx]

Hi
Hopefully someone here can help,I'm trying to find out whats the average price of these knifes are, its the very first brown that was released in April 2010. Its still NIB

[oscar]

nice one. I would say it is worth between 180 to 250 USD. If you want to sell, please let me know.

[meanx]

nice one. I would say it is worth between 180 to 250 USD. If you want to sell, please let me know.

Thanks pm sent.

[Joe58]

That's a nice one. Don't see them much in brown.

[nsa-x-file]

Hi
Hopefully someone here can help,I'm trying to find out whats the average price of these knifes are, its the very first brown that was released in April 2010. Its still NIB

Nice knife. I remember getting that when they first came out.
I would sell it now if you don't want it, as this colour may be around again soon. 

[glenfiddich1983]

Hi
Hopefully someone here can help,I'm trying to find out whats the average price of these knifes are, its the very first brown that was released in April 2010. Its still NIB

Nice knife. I remember getting that when they first came out.
I would sell it now if you don't want it, as this colour may be around again soon. 

This may be sooner than you think 

Brown Pioneer € 38 ($ 42)

https://www.schweizermesser-shop.de/victorinox-pioneer-alox-braun-se

[captain spaulding]

All these reissuing of "expensive" colors is quite maddening to many I assume. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

[Joe58]

All these reissuing of "expensive" colors is quite maddening to many I assume. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

I'm sure to the hard core colored alox collectors it would be maddening cause if they paid premium prices for the "limited edition" run, only to see it reissued a few years later at normal pricing, their collection is suddenly devalued, perhaps by a lot. Some of those colors were selling very high on the secondary market.

[captain spaulding]

All these reissuing of "expensive" colors is quite maddening to many I assume. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

I'm sure to the hard core colored alox collectors it would be maddening cause if they paid premium prices for the "limited edition" run, only to see it reissued a few years later at normal pricing, their collection is suddenly devalued, perhaps by a lot. Some of those colors were selling very high on the secondary market.

Exactly. In the same sense (in my case at least) when I was hardcore into colored alox I knew the possibility of this happening back then and decided to buy anyways. It was always a known risk in my opinion. It does not make it any more "acceptable" though.

[nsa-x-file]

All these reissuing of "expensive" colors is quite maddening to many I assume. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

I'm sure to the hard core colored alox collectors it would be maddening cause if they paid premium prices for the "limited edition" run, only to see it reissued a few years later at normal pricing, their collection is suddenly devalued, perhaps by a lot. Some of those colors were selling very high on the secondary market.

As I picked up almost all of the limited runs when they first came out I can understand why some would be upset by this. The secondary market has seen some very high prices for them in recent years. Personally it makes no difference to me as I collect for myself and not as an investment.
Other collectors I know are different and that's fine with me. No one is forcing anyone to buy these "Limited Edition" knives.

I know there are many Alox knives coming this year and more colors from the past will make a come back.
So i'm sure this discussion will continue each time a knife goes on sale.

As some have already said there is nothing stopping the factory from making any color Alox model they wish if the demand is still there.

The fact that some Alox knives had an original run of 25pcs, 50pcs, 100pcs..... etc with etched blades makes no difference at all. The term "Limited Edition" is used so much these days for so many things and very rarely means anything. As a long time collector in general this is nothing new to me.

So If anyone collects the older Alox runs and think they will be unique in color need to think again. 




 

[Joe58]

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The fact that some Alox knives had an original run of 25pcs, 50pcs, 100pcs..... etc with etched blades makes no difference at all. The term "Limited Edition" is used so much these days for so many things and very rarely means anything. As a long time collector in general this is nothing new to me.

So If anyone collects the older Alox runs and think they will be unique in color need to think again. 
[/quote]

I think you're spot on Jaimie. I picked out a couple of the colors that interested me and have them being made into electricians currently, and that'll be it. I usually just like to keep an eye out for oldies but those are jumping up in cost a lot too.

Prices anymore also have made it pretty prohibitive, at least to me. I see some of those limited releases going on eBay for $300 and on up. Myself, that just seems crazy for a pioneer with a different colored set of alox. Just not that special in my eyes but some folks really go for them so I suppose as long as that continues, Vic will keep pumping them out there.

I guess it does add fuel to the hobby though.

[ellog]

i got a brown pioneer from SMS the color differs a little bit but it looks very nice

[MWDP]

What this repetition of colors brings is a few more sales from the new collectors, meanwhile Victorinox is rapidly losing respect with people who have been collecting for longer periods of time. I don't consider these an investment or something I can resell in the future, I just feel like an idiot paying (or trading into) something for 200$ when the exact same thing comes out a year later for 40$. Just pointless, I know for a fact Victorinox makes very little on alox compared to cellidor.

As a friend of mine said, it's only a matter of time before they start making old cross models again...

[Thunderpants]

I believe the street price for that particular piece of Alox loveliness is between $2.50 and $5...

If you want to sell please let me know....

[captain spaulding]

What this repetition of colors brings is a few more sales from the new collectors, meanwhile Victorinox is rapidly losing respect with people who have been collecting for longer periods of time. I don't consider these an investment or something I can resell in the future, I just feel like an idiot paying (or trading into) something for 200$ when the exact same thing comes out a year later for 40$. Just pointless, I know for a fact Victorinox makes very little on alox compared to cellidor.

As a friend of mine said, it's only a matter of time before they start making old cross models again...

I could not agree more and to be completely honest I slowed down collecting for a few reasons. First and foremost my income cease to exist for a while...... sadly a long while..... and at the same time prices were rising. Second, was partly because I was a bit let down after all the "new" colors started coming out and they were almost if not completely identical to certain older knives we paid a premium for not to long ago. There was a couple other reasons as well. My point being I may have still bought when I could, but for the second reason listed I chose not to and spent money with other brands.

[nsa-x-file]

A few shots of the "old" Brown Alox and the "new" SMS Brown Alox.
There is hardly any difference apart from the older Farmer has no keyring. 

Left to right: Old Farmer, New SMS Farmer, Old Pioneer, New SMS Pioneer

[Joe58]

Not too much to get excited about, is there Jaimie? Almost no difference at all that I can see.

I'd like them to reissue your avatar though.