Coppers United

[jock1]

Thanks Mate
I am not much of an expert on firearms I reckon the Taurus is the one on the bottom but could you ID the other two for me ?Do you use any long guns ?

[cgk]

Top left-Taurus   Top right- S&W Sigma  Bottom-KelTec PF9
For work I carry a Bushmaster .223 for a rifle.  We still also carry Remington 870 shotguns but will soon be all switched over to the rifle.

[jock1]

Cheers mate
Why the switch to the rifle is it because there is less chance of bystanders getting hurt .Lawyers get everywhere

[cgk]

Cheers mate
Why the switch to the rifle is it because there is less chance of bystanders getting hurt .Lawyers get everywhere

Its much more practical.  Here is a short list of reasons.  Higher ammunition capacity, more accurate, a single projectile (shotguns can use slugs but they can over penetrate and they are not as accurate as a rifle), less recoil, more versatile (a shotgun is great in close but can not be used a greater distances like those encountered when you grab the shotgun and grab cover, a rifle is great at short and long distances).  Thats just to name a few.  And you are most certainly welcome.

[jock1]

Cheers for the explanation I have never seen our firearms teams with shotguns except for doorbreaching and large animal destruction.I am a nosey beggar it comes with the job 

[cgk]

Cheers for the explanation I have never seen our firearms teams with shotguns except for doorbreaching and large animal destruction.I am a nosey beggar it comes with the job 

We also put door breaching rounds and less lethal (beanbags) through designated shotguns.  Its funny you mention the breaching, I just received an order of Avon rounds (breaching) yesterday.

Oh and don't worry about being nosey....I am too.

[NutSAK]

cgk, has the KelTec been reliable for you?

[cgk]

cgk, has the KelTec been reliable for you?

Yes.  Some models have had problems due to a lack of finish work.  In the past I had the P3AT, which I polished the feed ramp to the second I got it and had zero problems.  I haven't done any work to the PF9 and it has yet to misfire.  I feel very confident with my PF9.

[Leatherman123]

I also own a Sigma.. A very nice gun indeed!

[J-sews]

I am a cop (15 years).  I carry a S & W Sigma .40 cal on-duty (I am the department firearms supervisor and am searching for replacement guns).  Off-duty and vest carry is a Kel-Tec PF9 9mm and a Taurus PT-745 .45 cal.

Any chance of pictures please?

Here you go.  Of course the Skeletool was added because....this is MT.org.

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Nice pic Craig.

[cgk]

I am a cop (15 years).  I carry a S & W Sigma .40 cal on-duty (I am the department firearms supervisor and am searching for replacement guns).  Off-duty and vest carry is a Kel-Tec PF9 9mm and a Taurus PT-745 .45 cal.

Any chance of pictures please?

Here you go.  Of course the Skeletool was added because....this is MT.org.

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Nice pic Craig.

Thank-you, I am always envious of the great pictures some of you take. 

LM123-I am glad you have had good luck with your Sigma, we hate ours.  We have had lots of trouble, two of the E models went full-auto at the range.  Once they started firing there was no stopping it until you dropped the mag or it ran out of ammo.  I am in the process of selecting a new gun for the department.  In the running are the S&W MP40, Sig Sauer P250, Springfield XDM 40, and the Glock 22 and 35.  We will be testing them as soon as I get them all in.  Not that any of you asked.

[eodtech]

I retired in 1995 after 25 years as a bomb tech / criminal investigator.



Yes, I do have 10 fingers and can run 100 yards in under 10 seconds !

EDC now is a Smith & Wesson Model 637,  Chief’s Special Airweight .38 Special or a Glock model 19, 9mm

[cgk]

Those airweights with +P rounds......ouch!!

[jock1]

I retired in 1995 after 25 years as a bomb tech / criminal investigator.

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Yes, I do have 10 fingers and can run 100 yards in under 10 seconds !

EDC now is a Smith & Wesson Model 637,  Chief’s Special Airweight .38 Special or a Glock model 19, 9mm


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How much can you shave off that when you hear tick tick tick

[NutSAK]

cgk, I think you'll be quite impressed by the Springfield XD.  It is the only polymer gun I would rank right up there with my Sig SP2022 (Sig Pro).  The rumor is that the P250 will be replacing the Sig Pro line, which is a shame, IMO.  Isn't the P250 DAO?

[eodtech]

.  Isn't the P250 DAO?

Any SIG that is a 'DAK' model is double action all the time.

[NutSAK]

.  Isn't the P250 DAO?

Any SIG that is a 'DAK' model is double action all the time.

Right.  I believe the P250 is a DAK model, isn't it?

[cgk]

Yes the P250 is DAO.  DAO is a requirement for us, we switched to it about 12 years ago and have been happy with it.  The hang-up on the Sig is a lack of holsters and Simunition conversion kits, it might be too new for us to switch to.