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Been doing some work in the Wiki 11723

Administrator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 11,728 I am geek, hear me code
Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2018, 05:26:04 PM »
and it's done... let the complaints roll in...  :facepalm: :crash:

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #121 on: February 15, 2018, 02:13:41 AM »
Hmmmm OK

And how would that apply to the 58s - with their two - full, front and back layers of tools  ???
... And tools that have either one or two springs   ???
Just about all the others have a 1:1 relationship from spring to tool to layer :think:


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Forgot to mention... been really busy yesterday... Yes, its better now... Thanks...


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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #122 on: March 07, 2018, 05:53:11 AM »
@ Whoey - Thanks - It all seems to be OK  - At least so far :tu:

I think the page hit counter is still not working though !! Or is that a major version change / upgrade - Or maybe just no-one is visiting the Delémont pages :(   !!


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@  Everyone

I named the Delemont pages eg  "Delémont Evolution 17" -  Or such like  -  ie:  "Delémont xxx nnn"

I just noticed that, in a Google search, the Wiki pages do not come up near the top of the list  if you search for eg "Victorinox Evolution 17"  
They do if you search for  "Delémont Evolution 17"

Do you think we need to rename all  the pages to  "Victorinox Delémont xxx nnn"   - So that they come up in searches !!  ???
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #123 on: March 07, 2018, 10:08:58 AM »
Hi there!
Could someone please implement on the wiki, under the Wenger "series" page, what I wrote years ago about the Patagonian Expedtion Race series?
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=57194.0
I came across that old topic recently, and I think it would be bad to have all that information lost, since I spent quite some time researching.
I would had done myself, but I stopped editing the wiki years ago, and I don't remember anything about it
Administrator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 11,728 I am geek, hear me code
Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #124 on: March 07, 2018, 12:22:04 PM »
Looking at the wiki, there's a number of modules that may have changed and need to be looked at. I'm not overly sure how the wiki is setup, I've only been upgrading the core software, not actually using it (I have plenty of other tasks to chase up). Also we've upgraded the software through many versions which might explain some of the breakage. As usual searching for help on Tikiwiki's site is increasing frustration over the confusion of using tikiwiki itself.

Any ways, the bottom line here is, I don't know enough about tikiwiki itself to actually help out with any encountered problems. I've got a full plate of other fish to fry at the moment, but obviously if there is something I can do that will fix it, I'm more than happy to do it.

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #125 on: March 07, 2018, 12:34:18 PM »
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@  Everyone

I named the Delemont pages eg  "Delémont Evolution 17" -  Or such like  -  ie:  "Delémont xxx nnn"

I just noticed that, in a Google search, the Wiki pages do not come up near the top of the list  if you search for eg "Victorinox Evolution 17"  
They do if you search for  "Delémont Evolution 17"

Do you think we need to rename all  the pages to  "Victorinox Delémont xxx nnn"   - So that they come up in searches !!  ???

I think the "Victorinox Delémont xxx nnn"   is a good idea. It reflects the fact that those knives, although not originally from Victorinox, are now being made by them. I've seen some sites and they separate both collections, too.


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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #126 on: March 09, 2018, 10:52:16 PM »
I should try a simple edit to get my feet wet...

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #127 on: March 10, 2018, 04:32:18 AM »
DO IT ! ! !

Yes I saw you were an editor    :)    :o   

Why don't you finish off the 85mm Delemonts - There's about 5 or 6 still to do - And a reasonably straightforward  job - But significant
Copy one of the other 85mm pages and edit away. The main 85mm series page is all there - Ready and waiting

I just took the pics from the Vic website - You need to upload them first
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #128 on: April 10, 2018, 08:19:47 AM »
We had some very detailed discussion about what to do about the switch to 100% liner locking models for the 111mm range at the top of the previous page.

Well I had a go at updating the Forester and Rucksack models with those changes, - along the lines of my suggestions, of course:  :o   ;)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester+Victorinox

Any comments? Does this work for you? Alles clar?
LeaFy - I know you put a lot of thought into this !   

Hey -That excel that you shared is great BTW  :tu:   
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #129 on: April 10, 2018, 10:01:14 AM »

Any comments? Does this work for you? Alles clar?
LeaFy - I know you put a lot of thought into this !   
Hey -That excel that you shared is great BTW  :tu:


Hi! Looks great. I will check more detaily later and (hopefully) will return with some comments. :)


By the way, I did some minor updates here:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=VSAKCS+-+Anniversary+Knife+Series

Please check if everything is ok (we still don't have picture for VSAKCS 2001 model  :ahhh )
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 08:25:08 AM by Huntsman »

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #130 on: April 10, 2018, 07:13:48 PM »
We had some very detailed discussion about what to do about the switch to 100% liner locking models for the 111mm range at the top of the previous page.

Well I had a go at updating the Forester and Rucksack models with those changes, - along the lines of my suggestions, of course:  :o   ;)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester+Victorinox

Any comments? Does this work for you? Alles clar?
LeaFy - I know you put a lot of thought into this !   

Hey -That excel that you shared is great BTW  :tu:

Ja wohl,   Alles klar:D :salute:
« Last Edit: April 10, 2018, 07:15:00 PM by El Corkscrew »

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2018, 11:25:55 PM »
By the way, I did some minor updates here:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=VSAKCS+-+Anniversary+Knife+Series
Please check if everything is ok (we still don't have picture for VSAKCS 2001 model  :ahhh )

Thanks - Good stuff - I reorganised the list/page a little - I think it looks better now - Is it OK?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 08:20:00 AM by Huntsman »
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,371
Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2018, 02:59:11 AM »
The page looks neater now Hunstman... I like it... Now if only we have a good pic for the 2001 edition... We’ve seen some on the web... Guess its unethical to borrow someone’s pic without permission...
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2018, 05:47:20 AM »
Thanks JM - Appreciate the feedback  :tu:
Re 2001 Image - Yes I think that is what LeaFy thought when he did the updates
- The SAAMS site we link to in the page has an image - But does not say who owns it - Although I almost consider SAAMS site to be part of us !

Ja wohl,   Alles klar:D :salute:
Entschuldigung, und vielen dank, mein Freund   :D :salute:
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 09:06:05 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2018, 08:53:29 AM »
I think it looks better now - Is it OK?
No, it's just beautiful  :D
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #135 on: April 16, 2018, 09:30:47 AM »
We got permission from VSAKCS to use  their 2011 pic... will pm you guys...
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #136 on: April 27, 2018, 03:55:27 PM »
Thanks for that JM - The missing  pic has been uploaded - So we are now 100%

In 2017 Vic completely revised their 111mm product line - Many, many models were retired, renamed, or converted
Well all the changes are now reflected in the Wiki and I think I can say that every single 111mm page has been updated in some way or other

Thanks to Leaf for letting us know about the changes and doing all the legwork around what had happened.
And for providing so many great pictures as always

Let us know of any feedback, comments, omissions, errors etc

Hey and can anyone tell us please when the 111mm family first came on the market? ???
I am thinking the 70s or 80s - We should really have that date in the Wiki
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 04:13:50 PM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #137 on: April 27, 2018, 04:21:23 PM »
Thanks for that JM - The missing  pic has been uploaded - So we are now 100%

In 2017 Vic completely revised their 111mm product line - Many, many models were retired, renamed, or converted
Well all the changes are now reflected in the Wiki and I think I can say that every single 111mm page has been updated in some way or other

Thanks to Leaf for letting us know about the changes and doing all the legwork around what had happened.
And for providing so many great pictures as always

Let us know of any feedback, comments, omissions, errors etc

Hey and can anyone tell us please when the 111mm family first came on the market? ???
I am thinking the 70s or 80s - We should really have that date in the Wiki


Thank you, Ralph for your great enormous work!
You're a real giant! :)


I will update some 111-mm models' pages with new pictures (2017 liner-lock models) in the nearest time.
Regarding born-date of this family.. I suppose - early 80s (but I'm not sure for 100%)


Cheers,
Alex


UPDATE: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,19779.0.html
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 05:19:13 PM by LeaF »

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #138 on: May 10, 2018, 04:12:04 AM »
Hi Knights,
I have a proposal for y'awl to consider.

When you go into the layer or main size pages of the WIki - ie you click on a hyperlink from the menu on the right handside (eg You click on the '130mm 5' button )
.....The next sceen that pops up is a blank grey screen - With the regular index down the right hand side, and the Layer Index (which repeats the right hand side index !  :-\ ) down the left hand side
What you then need to do is page down to get to the info you want
- For me this is not very user friendly and a bit of a pain   :pok:

I have a proposal to fix this   :cheers:
We could change the layer index from being presented vertically, as now,  to be presented horizontally
If we did this, you would get to the information you need on the first screen that is presented - And we don't loose the layer index - as it will still be there in a re-arranged format.

I have not changed a whole page - But I have constructed a sample of what the new layer index could look like at the bottom of this page:
http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+111mm+5+Layer+Models
Just page down to see it - I am proposoing that the 'Layer Index' section at the bottom replaces the one you see at the top - For all Wiki layer and size pages

In the proposed new index - The '5' looks a bit lonely and odd at the moment (it is copied from the 'vertical' list)
- I think going forward - We would leave the icon for the page you are on blank - or just use the full list with all hyperlinks every time - Thoughts ?

Whaddya awl think ....  ???  -  To me it's a no brainer  ;)  - But it will change the look of the Wiki
Please let me know your thoughts on whether we should do this  :think:

:salute: Huntsman

PS. LeaF - Thanks for your comments above -  :tu:   -     PM inbound about that other topic we are discussing
« Last Edit: May 10, 2018, 04:13:24 AM by Huntsman »
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,858 I brake for cake
Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #139 on: May 10, 2018, 09:08:48 AM »
I like it. :tu:  Looks OK on a mobile screen too.  How does it look on the 91mm SAK page?
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #140 on: May 10, 2018, 12:02:01 PM »
I like it. :tu:  Looks OK on a mobile screen too.  How does it look on the 91mm SAK page?

My only hesitation was about the look on a mobile. If it's OK, I'd say Yup! Got more info in a smaller space. That's awlways good.

:hatsoff:

 :tu:

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #141 on: May 11, 2018, 04:07:36 AM »
Looks good on my small 4” mobile phone screen... how would it look for those pages with more than 6 layers?

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #142 on: May 11, 2018, 04:40:58 AM »

Thanks for the feedback guys - really good to know about the mobile - Good thinking !

Nice screen shot JM
We don't have any pages for 6,7,8  layers etc - There is just the + page, eg as you see in this example, when there are 6 and above layers - So it will all fit on the screen just like you show !

I will make the change fully for the 91mm: all, 1  and 3 layer pages  in the next 24hrs or so - To see how it looks - We can always revert if we don't like it or it does not work  !!
I will pop a quick note here when I have done it
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #143 on: May 11, 2018, 10:18:30 PM »
I will make the change fully for the 91mm: all, 1  and 3 layer pages  in the next 24hrs or so - To see how it looks - We can always revert if we don't like it or it does not work  !! I will pop a quick note here when I have done it
DONE !!

Check it out..
http://www.sakwiki.com/Victorinox+91mm

One thing I found is that I use the links more in this new format - Which I guess is a good thing?    :tu:
Maybe they are easier to use, as well as being more compact?  ???
« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 10:28:01 PM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #144 on: June 09, 2018, 10:48:01 AM »
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+18

Another related knife is the Victorinox Artisan, which is nearly exact.
It's not linked in the related knives though.

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #145 on: June 09, 2018, 12:23:55 PM »
Another related knife is the Victorinox Artisan, which is nearly exact.
It's not linked in the related knives though.

Fair enough - It is now!

So is the Delémont Evolution 18   :o

Page also got a face lift    ;)    :tu:
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #146 on: June 09, 2018, 02:25:30 PM »
Great!
Thanks!
:salute:

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2018, 07:28:58 AM »
So I decided that the 111mm liner and slide lock model comparison matrices needed updating for the 2017 changes.
Unfortunately for me (as Wiki/Tiki tables are a nightmare - especially if you change the column order which of course I did !!  :crash:) I also thought the main table needed restructuring to make it more usable  ... Basically - condensed (so you an see it all on one page) and in layer model order.

This is done now:
http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+111mm+Slide+Lock+Models
As always: feedback, comments, requests etc etc very welcome.

I can't show you the old version - But you can look at the Liner lock table to get some idea of what is was like:
http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+111mm+Liner+Lock+Models

When I recover I guess I'll get onto that one too  :'( 

 
« Last Edit: July 03, 2018, 08:32:07 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #148 on: July 03, 2018, 05:04:06 PM »
Administrator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 11,728 I am geek, hear me code
Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #149 on: July 03, 2018, 05:58:38 PM »
 :2tu:

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