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Gerber Center Drive Club 11343

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #250 on: October 06, 2018, 03:04:59 PM »
You aren't alone in your findings.  I don't understand why Gerber had the issues they do either.  I agree with the whole Suspension series in that it feels so much better than most of the rest of the lineup quality wise!

I'm beginning to think that I have the sole Center Drive without issues.  I've borderline abused it and it just keeps on taking it.

Barry
Full Member Posts: 122
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #251 on: October 06, 2018, 04:32:08 PM »
Are there officially considerable differences in quality and durability of the tools Made in China and Made in USA?
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,274 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #252 on: October 06, 2018, 05:42:09 PM »
Are there officially considerable differences in quality and durability of the tools Made in China and Made in USA?

That's a can of worms. Good and bad products can be made anywhere, however some companies contracting out manufacturing to the lowest bidder, are prepared to accept quality compromises for that low purchase price. Quality sadly is often given lower priority than margins and intended sales price. Judge the tools on their own individual strengths and weaknesses, and not country of origin.



The cantankerous but occasionally useful member, formally known as 50ft-trad
Full Member Posts: 190
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #253 on: October 06, 2018, 06:52:33 PM »
Are there officially considerable differences in quality and durability of the tools Made in China and Made in USA?

That's a can of worms. Good and bad products can be made anywhere, however some companies contracting out manufacturing to the lowest bidder, are prepared to accept quality compromises for that low purchase price. Quality sadly is often given lower priority than margins and intended sales price. Judge the tools on their own individual strengths and weaknesses, and not country of origin.

This is very true. I have had a few cheap Coast knives for years. One a liner lock with G10 scales, 9cr18MoV steel. Still solid lock-up, no blade play. Not a refined looking piece of engineering, or the lightest knife around. But not rolling or chipping. Needs resharpening or stropping now and then, but less than some of my LM 420HC multi tool blades. After a lot of use over a year, I went and bought two more. Point being, most reviewers won't even review Chinese-made Coast knives. Snobbery. I have held some darn fine Chinese knives. Kershaw also proves the point of potential Chinese quality. Uneven, maybe, but if the contracting company enforces materials specs and QC the end product can be excellent. (Haven't gone Ganzo yet, though, on MTs. The exposed spring bothers me.)     
« Last Edit: October 06, 2018, 06:59:35 PM by israelpiper »
Full Member Posts: 122
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #254 on: October 06, 2018, 11:51:57 PM »
My MP400 and MP600 have no stamps or marking saying where they are made in, so I am assuming they are all made in China.

They seem working OK, and very durable so far.
No Life Club Posts: 2,684
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #255 on: October 08, 2018, 05:44:13 PM »
Are there officially considerable differences in quality and durability of the tools Made in China and Made in USA?

That's a can of worms. Good and bad products can be made anywhere, however some companies contracting out manufacturing to the lowest bidder, are prepared to accept quality compromises for that low purchase price. Quality sadly is often given lower priority than margins and intended sales price. Judge the tools on their own individual strengths and weaknesses, and not country of origin.

 :iagree:Very true! I am on my second USA made Center drive, as the first one I had had some problems with the pliers, While I have had the same Chinese made suspension for 7 years now, and have never had any trouble with it, despite putting it through the wringer on several occasions. Some are good, some are not so good. I am pretty much done buying Gerber products now, as the last few products I've bought from them haven't been that good. It's not the Same gerber that I new and loved

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #256 on: October 08, 2018, 07:49:49 PM »
 :iagree:

Barry
Full Member Posts: 190
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #257 on: October 09, 2018, 10:30:36 AM »
I am getting a little tired of all the "excellent warranty service" of this or that multi-tool firm. They factor in a substantial return and replacement scheme in their prices, as anyone here who knows business will agree. Nothing is given away gratis. Great warranty--but NOT great quality control. Imagine an arms manufacturer selling assault rifles to a nation's armed forces based on poor to mediocre quality control, but a cheerful and prompt returns and replacement warranty service. Battlefield disasters would abound.

Many much more complicated devices than multi-tools are made, with far better quality control. My wife's Daihatsu Sirion has gone ten years with only standard maintenance and tune-ups. Not one breakdown.

I would rather true quality and endurance. So far, only my LM Surge, LM SuperTool 300, Victorinox SwissTool, and Victorinox Spirit come pretty close to the mark. On my other MTs from various other firms, many of the smaller tools are woefully below the quality of the main tools. 
« Last Edit: October 09, 2018, 10:33:46 AM by israelpiper »
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #258 on: October 09, 2018, 02:46:18 PM »
I agree my friend!  Not to keep beating a dead horse, but Gerber has been at the multitool game almost as long as Leatherman and has had all kinds of QC issues.  I don't know what is going on in Portland, but Fiskars management should take a trip down from everything I've read here over the years.  I own 3 Gerber mts, the Center Drive, 400, and the new NXT.  I've not had issues with them, but my BG hatchet chipped at the edges after only very light duty and my son's machete was pathetic.  Ultimately, I've spent most of my adult life in one uniform or the other, and the only one I'd stake life and limb on is Victorinox.

Barry
Full Member Posts: 190
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #259 on: October 09, 2018, 06:49:07 PM »
I fear that uneven quality control, coupled with the generous and courteous returns and replacement policies, has become an established business model.

The MT works best as an on the belt or in the pack or glove compartment "always there" mini tool kit. If I have a problem I need the MT then and there, not the warranty honoured later, cheerfully done and dusted by a future employee of the year.

Screwdrivers that strip first use, nail pulls that snap on real nails, serrated knives that struggle to cut rope, make me want to return to a custom tool roll for pack and auto.

Top of the line LM and Victorinox are all I would seriously rely on. Rebar is decent around the house or tent.   I love the SOG pliers, but again small tools are a little flimsy. Gerber got me excited with the CenterDrive. My fault in part.
This rant is done...
« Last Edit: October 09, 2018, 06:51:39 PM by israelpiper »
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Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #260 on: October 10, 2018, 11:25:43 AM »
 :iagree:
The abundance of overwhelmingly positive "reviews" on the tube baited a lot of people, combined with the aggressive promotion of it by Gerber.
Full Member Posts: 122
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #261 on: October 10, 2018, 03:30:42 PM »
First, I was thinking about the Centre Drive seriously, but found a lot of aspects were not convincing.
So I went for the cheaper MP400 and MP600, and they are fine. No markings where they are made in, but all seem working OK.

I think I was lucky.  All MTs have good and bad points - even LM Surge and SWISSTOOLS.

MP400 and 600 also have plenty bad points, but I like their good points.
Full Member Posts: 190
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #262 on: October 10, 2018, 04:43:25 PM »
First, I was thinking about the Centre Drive seriously, but found a lot of aspects were not convincing.
So I went for the cheaper MP400 and MP600, and they are fine. No markings where they are made in, but all seem working OK.

I think I was lucky.  All MTs have good and bad points - even LM Surge and SWISSTOOLS.

MP400 and 600 also have plenty bad points, but I like their good points.

Good and bad points are one thing. Inferior materials and heat treatment are another.
Full Member Posts: 122
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #263 on: October 12, 2018, 12:09:26 PM »
First, I was thinking about the Centre Drive seriously, but found a lot of aspects were not convincing.
So I went for the cheaper MP400 and MP600, and they are fine. No markings where they are made in, but all seem working OK.

I think I was lucky.  All MTs have good and bad points - even LM Surge and SWISSTOOLS.

MP400 and 600 also have plenty bad points, but I like their good points.

Good and bad points are one thing. Inferior materials and heat treatment are another.

Saw some adverts for CenterDrive in half price sale.
Time to reduce the price for the model?
No Life Club Posts: 2,684
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #264 on: October 14, 2018, 12:13:48 AM »
Must be, they are to the point where even Walmart is carrying the cd now :multi:

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No Life Club Posts: 2,684
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #265 on: November 26, 2018, 11:43:44 PM »
 :multi:

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #266 on: November 26, 2018, 11:49:27 PM »
Awesome picture!!

Barry
Hero Member Posts: 975
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #267 on: December 17, 2018, 06:55:17 PM »
I am pretty much in love with mine,it has changed my life in a way!

I really just use the Pliers and Driver but they seem to me to be better than anything else I have tried,including the Vic.

Only Time will tell I suppose?
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #268 on: December 17, 2018, 07:02:08 PM »
I love mine!!

Barry
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #269 on: December 18, 2018, 02:16:44 AM »
Here's mine!

Barry
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #270 on: December 31, 2018, 06:02:03 PM »
Haven't carried mine in awhile.  I still absolutely love this tool!

Barry
Hero Member Posts: 654
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #271 on: January 30, 2019, 12:18:09 AM »
Kevin, good luck with your CentreDrive!
Mine has a new mod.

Do you have a write up of this? The wire stripper looks great!!

Charles.
Global Moderator Point Of No Return Posts: 36,185
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #272 on: January 30, 2019, 01:17:15 AM »
Kevin, good luck with your CentreDrive!
Mine has a new mod.

Do you have a write up of this? The wire stripper looks great!!

Charles.

MM was the best, rest in peace good buddy.   :salute:   :salute:

Charles, I don't recall there being a write up posted but others might.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,013
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #273 on: January 30, 2019, 01:40:49 AM »
I agree Z.  I don't believe he did a write up either, but I do believe it was one of the first Center Drive mods.

Barry
No Life Club Posts: 1,025
Re: Gerber Center Drive Club
« Reply #274 on: February 16, 2019, 02:11:30 PM »
I will be getting a black CD thru buying a gun cleaning kit  :think:  for a bit over $50 in total  :D Some of these kits are on eBay if you fancy a black CD and some extra
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-MILITARY-OTIS-CQB-CLEANING-KIT-5-56mm-223-NEW-IMPROVED-GERBER-MULTI-TOOL/202580054550
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OTIS-CLEANING-KIT-5-56-GERBER-MULTITOOL-SOLDIERS-TOOL-KIT/113633953001

From what I read, I should not have too high of expectation on the tool, huh? An ultimate MT for me is half a Leatherman Surge (with PE blade and scissor), and the bit driver of the Gerber CD. Is such mod possible?

 

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