I would strongly recommend avoiding the Smith & Wesson 911 Tool:
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The specs on it (like all Taylor made crap) seems decent, like when they try to sell you on the 1/4" pin to add strength so you can pry with it, but the reality is the shoddy nylon handle will keep that 1/4" pin from being any use to you. The glass breaker is fiddly and not something you want to depend on when your fine motor skills are gone during an adrenaline dump and the blade steel is only slightly harder than dried monkey poops which renders the serrations useless.... that is if they ever had an edge in the first place. I couldn't even cut bread with that crappy knife.
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One of the many things I find so refreshing with MTo.org - even the big cheese tells it just like he sees it. Such truth and honesty is refreshing in a world full of "oh my you can't say that, it might offend some one". Some time offense is needed to get things done right not half 'ssed.
Thanks Grant for the truth!
No worries- it's what I do. But even if I was a BS artist, even with the help of Willy Wonka and an army of Oompa Loompas I couldn't sugar coat the truth about what complete and utter pieces of crap Taylor products are.
You haven't been around long enough to know this, but the Reader's Digest version is that when Taylor bought Schrade they started manufacturing the Schrade designs in China, using the least effective materials and cheapest labor they could find. One member here (I believe J-Sews) got one that was so bad, the blade was too long to fit in the handle and they
bent the tip of the knife to fit in.No word of a lie on that. But hey, any company can make a lemon, right?
Smith & Wesson knives are manufactured by Taylor as well, and a friend of mine who was a big fan of SWAT stuff bought an S&W SWAT knife. The knife was so badly made that the liner lock would forget to lock the blade and swing all the way to the opposite side of the tang and slot itself in with the spacer, allowing the blade to close roughly halfway (or 90 degrees) during use.
But hey, that's one S&W and one Schrade.... could be a coincidence, right?
On Knifeforums years ago (when I was a moderator there) someone was all excited about the new S&W knife he'd ordered based on the specs/looks. I suggested that he should have asked for opinions before buying the knife, rather than after, as their quality wasn't so great, and I sincerely hoped I was wrong. When he finally got it he was excited and happy and I was too, because I would rather be wrong and he gets a good knife, versus a poor, unsuspecting guy getting a crap knife.
Good story, right?
A week or so later he posted that the whole thing was starting to fail and fall apart. Here's an old discussion and link to the original thread here:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=24942.0Okay, so everyone has an opinion on the internet, and we all know what opinions are like, right?
While J-Sews and I were at SHOT a few years ago we went to the Taylor booth to see the Tough Tool that had recently been announced as the new Australian Army Issue tool- which was nothing more than the old, shoddy Tough Tool with a black coating and yellow letters telling the world that the Australian Army doesn't actually need tools that work. Bob picked up the Australian Issue tool and
crushed it with his bare hand.
Well, not quite, but close. He squeezed the handles and they bent inward. We actually had two Tough Tools there and we took comparison pictures to show how one was permanently deformed before quickly leaving- not that I consider anything at their booth to be an even remote threat.
Right, so they may be cheapo crap, but people still buy them, right?
Taylor's catalogues for the Schrade and S&W lines are full of inspiring imagery, like silhouettes of solders, stars, stripes, American flags and eagles, while using terms like "Proudly American Owned" which leads one to believe that they are quality tools made in the USA, when in fact
the entire line is made in China- or worse. This, to me at least constitutes false advertising and personally I believe they should be charged with fraud. However, I also believe they need to be brought up on charges of negligence (at least) for everyone who gets hurt as a result of one of their smurfty products failing, and manslaughter (at least) whenever a soldier is injured, maimed or killed while trying to use the issued tool while on duty.
It's not just that they are cheap- Great Neck/Sheffield is also cheap and the quality often ranges from terrible to awful (and back again) but at least they admit it and don't try to pretend they are something they are not by splashing patriotic images and misleading statements across their advertising.
I could go on, but I get enough TL:DR already....
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