My rants against the Juice can be found repeatedly throughout the forum, and yet I own and use a KF4. The KF4 has even handles (unlike the others), and the tool is a nice pocketable size (unlike the XE6). The pliers and serrated knife are good, and the diamond file is great. Despite still having some faults such as the stabby vicious drivers, the blunt (from the factory) awl, and the saw that so easily gets bent so it doesn't stow properly without assistance, it does dispense with the damn awful scissors, the can opener that doesn't, and the bottle chipping can opener assist.Net result = tolerableIts a good tool to pair with a Climber or Compact (or Climber Small in my case), when there is a slim chance of needing more than a Climber/Compact offers. I'm not as charitable as to say it's the "best" Juice, but it is by far the "least worst", and the only one I am now prepared to carry, but only when I am highly unlikely to need the screwdrivers, such as on a short hike.In short, it's the only tolerable version of the tool I like to hate the most
I also finally have a KF4 on the way also so my question is just how good is the KF4. Alot of people say it was the best juice with the best tool set. Is that True?Do people miss Scissors?
Quote from: Pattas29 on June 16, 2017, 12:10:13 PMI also finally have a KF4 on the way also so my question is just how good is the KF4. Alot of people say it was the best juice with the best tool set. Is that True?Do people miss Scissors? For me best Juice with best tool set is SC2. Lightweight and thin like S2 or C2 but with corkscrew and scissors together. SX - lightweight, but tool set only for surfers KF4, CS4, XE6, Pro - too thick and heavy for EDC.