Buying Knives in the UK

[Kev D]

It's just been on the news that from very soon if we buy a knife online in the UK we will have to collect them in person from the post office to prove we are over 18.

Apparently this is to prevent children getting hold of knives as easily.  It won't prevent one walking into the kitchen and taking one out of a drawer through will it. Just another stupid knife law 

[Don Pablo]

It's just been on the news that from very soon if we buy a knife online in the UK we will have to collect them in person from the post office to prove we are over 18.

Apparently this is to prevent children getting hold of knives as easily.  It won't prevent one walking into the kitchen and taking one out of a drawer through will it. Just another stupid knife law 

Another useless measure... Its all useless until you ban the kitchen knives that everyone and there dog are using!   

[AimlessWanderer]

... and yet the PO claims they will not ship knives 

Brewery - piss up - organise - can't

It won't stop idiots misusing knives, and it won't stop responsible adults using them properly either. All it will likely do is increase costs - again.

Arseholes! 

[zr0dfx]

What If you ship it by ups or yodel or something?

I really hate all this nanny state nonsense:(

[Kev D]

What If you ship it by ups or yodel or something?

I really hate all this nanny state nonsense:(

It said we would have to provide I.D. to prove we are over 18. So if using a courier presumably they'd want to see that when delivering to your door. Though I doubt yodel would care, they often just chuck my stuff over my 8ft gates.

[zr0dfx]

What If you ship it by ups or yodel or something?

I really hate all this nanny state nonsense:(

It said was we would have to provide I.D. to prove we are over 18. So if using a courier presumably they'd want to see that when delivering to your door. Though I doubt yodel would care, they often just chuck my stuff over my 8ft gates.

I know amazon already has that policy as I ordered an opinel from them and I had to sign for it and it had a big 18+ only signature required written on the box.

Lol @ yodel

[Grant Lamontagne]

That is remarkably stupid.  It's yet another band aid solution to a serious problem.  Perhaps if they put the money and effort into finding the root causes of crime (mental illness, poverty, lack of more constructive options etc) then maybe they wouldn't have to blame inanimate objects.   

Of course to crack down on gun crime they banned guns.  Soon to crack down on knife crime they will ban knives.  Then when it comes to stick crime, trees will be outlawed, followed by rocks until eventually no one will be allowed to grab or hold anything for more than ten seconds without being charged with felony possession, and if they release it more than 2 inches above the ground, and with any force beyond that or gravity they will be charged with assault.   

Def

[Zed]

We have been ranting all day on FB about this, I feel the same Def  I mean what's next ban pencils as there pointy, or ban rulers as could be sharpened, it's pathetic,  our governments a joke,like said they need to solve the actual problem as most things can be used as a weapon and these smurfs don't use quality knives just there mum's kitchen knife 

[pomsbz]

I can already see the council estate worthies setting up businesses to pick up knives from the post office for a fee to keep all the youngsters supplied. Heck it's what I'd do if I were them (thank heavens I was not born into their hopelessness but I grew up a few hundred yards away from it in Newcastle, Liverpool and Manchester). Do the people making these laws never think more than a single move ahead?

[Aloha]

SIGH, will have to suffice as I put away my soap box not wanting to say really harsh things.   

[Zed]

Plus they was saying about people not being aloud knives in there house  never smurfing ending ,collecting in the uk just gets harder and harder, and as for what we can carry  I need to move to a jungle asap 

[dks]

it is for your own safety. free from the EU the UK public can now  be better protected

you can always gift your dangerous weapons to other MTO members

[Don Pablo]

Plus they was saying about people not being aloud knives in there house  never smurfing ending ,collecting in the uk just gets harder and harder, and as for what we can carry  I need to move to a jungle asap 

Source? This is no-carrying-bare-hands-on-to-an-airplane insane. 

[glenfiddich1983]

Insane. 

[AimlessWanderer]

Business as usual as far as I'm concerned.

Business as usual for the clueless numpties who feel compelled to chuck a new statute on the books to justify their existence.

Business as usual for the chavtastic oiks who just nick other people's kitchen knives.

[Sparky415]

So the police are going to visit and confiscate all the 'weapons' are they?

Sarge, I've found an axe
Here's another one
And...
Sarge I think we need a bigger van

Smurfin Muppets 

[dks]

it is part of the war on terror

[ironraven]

WEAPON (ˈwepən), noun. The means by which one party imposes its will upon another.

These kinds of regulations ARE weapons. Discussing to what end might would be political, but as I had to explain to someone today who was bleating that I hurt his feelings that you can't bleed out from a stubbed ego (and that he was making so much noise you'd think someone gelded a bull with a spoon). "Think of the children" is the excuse given by those who have a child's mind in a mature body.

[Kampfer]

Whatever people in US saying about California's gun laws I can just say the same about U.K. Knife laws.

[Smashie]

Whatever people in US saying about California's gun laws I can just say the same about U.K. Knife laws.

Sorry Kam the Americans are rank amateurs when it comes to restrictive laws and legislation (I know the reasons, don't start on me lol).


Again this is case of the current laws not being enforced by the police and looking for an easy solution which the police don't have to enforce.

It is illegal to:

• sell a knife of any kind to anyone under 18 years old (16 to 18 year olds in Scotland can buy cutlery and kitchen knives)
• carry a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, e.g. a Swiss Army knife
• carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
• use any knife in a threatening way (including a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife)

   
Seems very simple to me, enforce this and the problem goes away

[Kampfer]

Simply just make it illegal to murder another person.

[Don Pablo]

Simply just make it illegal to murder another person.

Good idea!

Oh wait a minute....

[hiraethus]

Smashie, I fixed the formatting in your (very sensible) post.  Hope I got it right without changing what you intended to say.

[Gerhard Gerber]

Look peeps, its very simple, if you didn't have to worry about human rights or the law, problems would be easy to solve.

There's been a few happenings locally that you read about in wonderment, but nothing gets done............

In neighboring South Africa there's a takeover happening in the criminal underworld, you can read names and details in the newspapers, but the cops can't/won't do anything about it.......and a crime boss gets shot up driving his Audi R8 in broad daylight.....

On the Namibian scene, radioactive crap leaks out of a taillings dam for 2 weeks at a chinese-owned uranium mine.........2 weeks anybody with a Facebook account has known about it, and now finally they admit it with many excuses....

To get back to my original thought, let's say Muammar Gaddafi ruled Southern Africa.........crime lords? Arrest and shoot them.  Tailings dam leak?  FIX IT........yesterday, not next year while we issue a tender or get quotes....

I mention Gaddafi as a prime example considering the state of Libya after his removal.

Problem being if they hadn't killed him he likely would've turned into another senile dictator.

No hope.........what do you think the knife laws on Mars will be? 

[Borg]

It really pissed me off when i had to get rid of my airguns, are knives next on the list i wonder, good luck policing that one..
My mum bought me a SAK for my 13th birthday, never once entered my head to use it as a weapon 
Lets face it, if needed you have a choice of a Bantam or a big stick in a fight, im guessing most of us would choose the big stick, are they wanting 18+ signed -for collect at post office with big sticks?
Knife laws are already here, i see no reason to go after the genuine legal knife user/carrier/collector here, go after the little scrote with the machete stuffed up his jumper in the town centre

[Grant Lamontagne]

Let's just be careful not to get too political in this one guys!   

Def

[pomsbz]

It really pissed me off when i had to get rid of my airguns, are knives next on the list i wonder, good luck policing that one..
My mum bought me a SAK for my 13th birthday, never once entered my head to use it as a weapon 
Lets face it, if needed you have a choice of a Bantam or a big stick in a fight, im guessing most of us would choose the big stick, are they wanting 18+ signed -for collect at post office with big sticks?
Knife laws are already here, i see no reason to go after the genuine legal knife user/carrier/collector here, go after the little scrote with the machete stuffed up his jumper in the town centre

Are airguns illegal now in the UK? I spent my teenage years plinking.

[Zed]

It really pissed me off when i had to get rid of my airguns, are knives next on the list i wonder, good luck policing that one..
My mum bought me a SAK for my 13th birthday, never once entered my head to use it as a weapon 
Lets face it, if needed you have a choice of a Bantam or a big stick in a fight, im guessing most of us would choose the big stick, are they wanting 18+ signed -for collect at post office with big sticks?
Knife laws are already here, i see no reason to go after the genuine legal knife user/carrier/collector here, go after the little scrote with the machete stuffed up his jumper in the town centre

Are airguns illegal now in the UK? I spent my teenage years plinking.

 
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://basc.org.uk/airgunning/advice/basc-air-rifle-code-of-practice/&ved=0ahUKEwiMr5O6nZfVAhVHI8AKHSvACWsQFggeMAA&usg=AFQjCNHKZSfx3Zg5M2A5NRqP4ynouV4QSw

[pomsbz]

It really pissed me off when i had to get rid of my airguns, are knives next on the list i wonder, good luck policing that one..
My mum bought me a SAK for my 13th birthday, never once entered my head to use it as a weapon 
Lets face it, if needed you have a choice of a Bantam or a big stick in a fight, im guessing most of us would choose the big stick, are they wanting 18+ signed -for collect at post office with big sticks?
Knife laws are already here, i see no reason to go after the genuine legal knife user/carrier/collector here, go after the little scrote with the machete stuffed up his jumper in the town centre

Are airguns illegal now in the UK? I spent my teenage years plinking.

 
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://basc.org.uk/airgunning/advice/basc-air-rifle-code-of-practice/&ved=0ahUKEwiMr5O6nZfVAhVHI8AKHSvACWsQFggeMAA&usg=AFQjCNHKZSfx3Zg5M2A5NRqP4ynouV4QSw

I'm confused now as to why Borg had to get rid of his airguns?

[zr0dfx]

Maybe he lives in Scotland as we have to have a licence to own an airgun here.