Super Tool 300 saw length

[zapikank86]

Anyone know how long the cutting edge is on the Super Tool 300 saw?

I have an idea of putting it in a single-half surge. So I have knife, scissors, saw, and bit driver.

[Smashie]

It should fit

[zapikank86]

Looks like the longest saw Leatherman has, nice.

I wonder how it compares to a Victorinox saw.

Are the inside tool pivots the same on the Surge and the Super Tool? I think they are.

[Don Pablo]

Victorinox SAK saw has the best length for multitool size/length, in my opinion. 

[Poncho65]

Looks like the longest saw Leatherman has, nice.

I wonder how it compares to a Victorinox saw.

Are the inside tool pivots the same on the Surge and the Super Tool? I think they are.

I would think the inside pivots should be the same but I have been known to be wrong about stuff like this The way they lock is different though So are you intending on putting the saw in the same spot as the blade exchanger If so then you will have to grind a bit on the ST300 saw to get it to lock with the liner lock Then it isn't 100% guarantee that it will lock up correctly but there may still be a good chance it will

Take pics and let us know how it goes if you do this

[zapikank86]

I plan on making a SAK from a Surge. A Surge Army Knife if I can call it that. So just 1 body half, no pliers, blade and scissors on the liner lock parts. Bit driver and SuperTool saw on the inside part.

[Dutch_Tooler]

Interesting idea... I've had occasion to compare the SuperTool saw with the Surge blade exchanger with saw mounted. The latter combination is a teensy bit longer, about 1mm or so, so the SuperTool saw should fit in a 1/2 Surge without any problems. Also, pivot and outer lock area sizes of the SuperTool saw will fit the Surge pivot and lock opposite the plier-side pivot.

Question though: what are you going to do (if anything) with the space left in the plier-side pivot by the removed plier head?

[hiraethus]

Are the inside tool pivots the same on the Surge and the Super Tool? I think they are.

I believe they are.  Zoidberg has done some ST300/Surge tool swaps so he might be able to confirm.

[Syncop8r]

Are the inside tool pivots the same on the Surge and the Super Tool? I think they are.

I believe they are.  Zoidberg has done some ST300/Surge tool swaps so he might be able to confirm.

I replaced my Surge's bit driver with an ST300's phillips.

[zapikank86]

Question though: what are you going to do (if anything) with the space left in the plier-side pivot by the removed plier head?

The saw should take up a little of it. I can even use the long screwdriver bit and it will  still work. I was also thinking of having the bottle opener on the pliers pivot (it won't be locking i know). Or my wild idea is to 3D print a plastic housing to slide inside that spot which contains a tiny LED flashlight or laser pointer diode. Or a 3D printed housing which can hold an extra screwdriver bit.

Ultimately in the far future I think i will get some custom steel liners water-jet cut that can house a Benchmade axis lock knife and other tools.. for the ultimate SAK

[Dutch_Tooler]

Question though: what are you going to do (if anything) with the space left in the plier-side pivot by the removed plier head?

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Ultimately in the far future I think i will get some custom steel liners water-jet cut that can house a Benchmade axis lock knife and other tools.. for the ultimate SAK

[zapikank86]

I really don't know why no one has done it before. I see people getting custom scales made. 3D printing custom jigsaw blade holders out of steel, all sorts of mods. But never seen anyone come up with their own liners to hold the tools they want. Just a 2D drawing is needed and sent it out to a water-jet shop. Have cut-outs for liner locks or whatever lock you want. My old place of work used to have things EDM or water-jet cut all the time for our stuff. It's no biggy. But I'm getting off-topic, so i'll shut up

[Don Pablo]

It's your topic, you can derail it as much as you want. 

[Dutch_Tooler]

But I'm getting off-topic, so i'll shut up

You don't need to. The make-your-own-liner bit is very interesting indeed! It's kind of just dawning on me how flexible you could be designing your own tool with this. The only reason why I am a little slow in picking this up is that I'm no SAK modder and limit myself to somewhat less modifiable LM tools (and the same width restriction applies to most available plier-based tools, I reckon), for the moment at least.
Re water-jet cutting, how thick can the sheet material be at most? Would it also tackle 2-3 mm thick spring steel for instance? That would open up real possibilities for home-made knives on the basis of existing / modified tools...

[zapikank86]

Yes, water jet cutting and EDM processes can cut 3mm steel, and more! I would just keep the liners the same thickness and a regular steel knife liner. But you can practically copy the design of any knife's liner cutouts for the locking stuff, then add in your own cutouts and pin holes for other tools. Of course I dont think you can sell it because half the tool is from other company's stuff, but of course you can keep it for personal use.

If you know how to use a 3D CAD program and know a little about manufacturing processes you can build your own tool out of existing tools. I'm not a SAK modder or a knife maker, but I did go to school for engineering. All I need to do is design some 2mm or so steel liners for the tools I want, make sure to design it for the backsprings or whatever, then assemble it and make some custom scales.

[Dutch_Tooler]

Right. Interesting, thanks! The spring steel part of my question was aimed at the back springs so those would be covered too, I guess... hmmm... I feel a winter project coming up .

Anyone have 3D models of existing multitool or SAK parts lying around, by chance?

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[Dutch_Tooler]

We never actually answered your question by the way: (zero point is at pivot)

PS mm only, I have no nice inches ruler, sorry...



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[Alan K.]

3 inches.