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Banana spam (was: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws)
on: November 08, 2017, 12:19:56 PM

Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....

I hate it when mobs get armed with frozen bananas

:nanadance:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:19:56 PM


Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....

I hate it when mobs get armed with frozen bananas

:nanadance:

Ah-hem... it's not a laughing matter...








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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:19:56 PM


Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....

I hate it when mobs get armed with frozen bananas

:nanadance:

Ah-hem... it's not a laughing matter...








Accidently stabbed to death [with a frozen banana] while viewing a tool related internet forum? Do not delay, call Fuzzbucket Injury Lawyers for You on 0800......
The banana is not in it's peel...

Do I really want to know where it went? :dwts:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
And how is someone going to call you after being stabbed to death? :shrug:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:19:56 PM


Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....

I hate it when mobs get armed with frozen bananas

:nanadance:

Ah-hem... it's not a laughing matter...








Accidently stabbed to death [with a frozen banana] while viewing a tool related internet forum? Do not delay, call Fuzzbucket Injury Lawyers for You on 0800......
The banana is not it it's peel...

Do I really want to know where it went? :dwts:

...Dr said it was the worst case of rectal trauma he'd ever seen...
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 12:48:43 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
And how is someone going to call you after being stabbed to death? :shrug:

...just a technicality...








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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
'You shot him! You shot him dead!'
'Well he was attacking me with a banana!'
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: ducttapetech on November 08, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
'You shot him! You shot him dead!'
'Well he was attacking me with a banana!'

Exactly... well said.
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 01:01:20 PM
 :rofl:
Gotta love Monty Python!
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:19:56 PM


Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....

I hate it when mobs get armed with frozen bananas

:nanadance:

Ah-hem... it's not a laughing matter...








Accidently stabbed to death [with a frozen banana] while viewing a tool related internet forum? Do not delay, call Fuzzbucket Injury Lawyers for You on 0800......
The banana is not it it's peel...

Do I really want to know where it went? :dwts:

...Dr said it was the worst case of rectal trauma he'd ever seen...
:ahhh
And I hear that the frozen turkeys are even worse!
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 01:04:06 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....
Or Roy Hudds finger  :D
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 01:04:06 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Shuya on November 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 01:18:21 PM
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Ive got a question to the "locals" around the world regarding their knife laws.
Here in europe we got the whole range of laws, from "we dont care" (austria) to "better keep your scissors at home" (UK).

My issue is with the non locking rule, for example in the UK, france, italy, spain afaik.
Now there are some MTs that have no locking blade, but the handles prevent the blade from folding in when closed, for example:
- old Mr Pinchys
- old LMs (PST, PSTII, Flair)
- SOG PPP, Paratool

All these tools are non locking, but: how are they handled in real life? Are these tools considered locking or non locking in your country?
I worry about this since I travel a lot and dont want to mess with the police far from home.

Any experiences?

In the UK, it is presumed that they are non locking, but if it went to court??? Also, even if it's non-locking 3" or less, it's still a bladed article, so you have to be mindful of that in public spaces, train stations etc... and if it's flashed about or percieved to be used in a threatening manner, then (under law) it becomes an offensive weapon, but that could technically apply to anything eg. an umbrella.... or a stick... or a frozen banana....
Or Roy Hudds finger  :D

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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #14 on: November 08, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
Ah-hem...

I'd like to point out, that so far... despite what it might appear... I am... the only one... to have replied to the OP with a sensible reply... (yes i said sensible)...  :whistle:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #15 on: November 08, 2017, 01:45:14 PM
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Ah-hem...

I'd like to point out, that so far... despite what it might appear... I am... the only one... to have replied to the OP with a sensible reply... (yes i said sensible)...  :whistle:
Well, mostly.
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #16 on: November 08, 2017, 01:51:36 PM
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Ah-hem...

I'd like to point out, that so far... despite what it might appear... I am... the only one... to have replied to the OP with a sensible reply... (yes i said sensible)...  :whistle:
Well, mostly.

No Ducty NO! I was being quite serious about the banana... you would not be so cavalier about such things looking down the pointy end of a frozen banana!!!
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 01:57:28 PM
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Quote from: ducttapetech on November 08, 2017, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
Ah-hem...

I'd like to point out, that so far... despite what it might appear... I am... the only one... to have replied to the OP with a sensible reply... (yes i said sensible)...  :whistle:
Well, mostly.

No Ducty NO! I was being quite serious about the banana... you would not be so cavalier about such things looking down the pointy end of a frozen banana!!!
:rofl:

Well for some, the looking down the pointy end of a frozen banana would be a horrific ordeal. However, I have been trained in self defense against fruit. Yes even black and red cherries. Now pointy sticks on the other hand......
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #18 on: November 08, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
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Quote from: ducttapetech on November 08, 2017, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
Ah-hem...

I'd like to point out, that so far... despite what it might appear... I am... the only one... to have replied to the OP with a sensible reply... (yes i said sensible)...  :whistle:
Well, mostly.

No Ducty NO! I was being quite serious about the banana... you would not be so cavalier about such things looking down the pointy end of a frozen banana!!!
:rofl:

Well for some, the looking down the pointy end of a frozen banana would be a horrific ordeal. However, I have been trained in self defense against fruit. Yes even black and red cherries. Now pointy sticks on the other hand......

...well yes, the banana's only there to distract you while i chib you with [one of Mags] pointy sticks...
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #19 on: November 08, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
There'll be no chibing using one of my pointy sticks young fellow me lad. My pointy sticks were designed and made with peace in mind.  :twak:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #20 on: November 08, 2017, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
There'll be no chibing using one of my pointy sticks young fellow me lad. My pointy sticks were designed and made with peace in mind.  :twak:

...but, you said...?
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #21 on: November 08, 2017, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
There'll be no chibing using one of my pointy sticks young fellow me lad. My pointy sticks were designed and made with peace in mind.  :twak:
Peace in mind........ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I thought you was serious there for a second.
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #22 on: November 08, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: ducttapetech on November 08, 2017, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
There'll be no chibing using one of my pointy sticks young fellow me lad. My pointy sticks were designed and made with peace in mind.  :twak:
Peace in mind........ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I thought you was serious there for a second.
Can I have one of your pointy sticks if it's only for personal use?  :angel:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #24 on: November 08, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:48:43 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
And how is someone going to call you after being stabbed to death? :shrug:

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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #25 on: November 08, 2017, 06:32:08 PM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on November 08, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: ducttapetech on November 08, 2017, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
There'll be no chibing using one of my pointy sticks young fellow me lad. My pointy sticks were designed and made with peace in mind.  :twak:
Peace in mind........ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I thought you was serious there for a second.
Can I have one of your pointy sticks if it's only for personal use?  :angel:
You want me to trust you with one of my pointy sticks? Are you having a laugh? You'd have to promise to attend one of my annual 'Responsible use of a pointy stick' weekend seminars. If you pass the final exam you receive a certificate licencing you to use a pointy stick in public. Other successful attendees have gone on to great things - one of my most promising students is now the Official Pointy Stick Bearer for the Prince of Zimbabwe.
'Use the force Harry' - Gandalf
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ie Offline Don Pablo

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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #26 on: November 08, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 06:32:08 PM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on November 08, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: ducttapetech on November 08, 2017, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: magentus on November 08, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
There'll be no chibing using one of my pointy sticks young fellow me lad. My pointy sticks were designed and made with peace in mind.  :twak:
Peace in mind........ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I thought you was serious there for a second.
Can I have one of your pointy sticks if it's only for personal use?  :angel:
You want me to trust you with one of my pointy sticks? Are you having a laugh? You'd have to promise to attend one of my annual 'Responsible use of a pointy stick' weekend seminars. If you pass the final exam you receive a certificate licencing you to use a pointy stick in public. Other successful attendees have gone on to great things - one of my most promising students is now the Official Pointy Stick Bearer for the Prince of Zimbabwe.
:gimme:
When does it start?
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
 :rofl:
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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Fuzzbucket on November 08, 2017, 12:48:43 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on November 08, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
And how is someone going to call you after being stabbed to death? :shrug:

...just a technicality...








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Re: Non lockung multitools regarding local knife laws-
Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 10:08:14 PM
Merit Badges Using EDC items randomly selected with a poker hand, post a photo of your EDC or a component of the EDC that got used during the course of the day for 4 weeks (or 30 consecutive days) Only for the 14th year Anniversary Challenge. Post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of a different blade each day for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. You have one of your pictures in the 2020 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. Post a picture and recipe for a batch of Chili that you have made Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of an Axe for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a GEC knife and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the leatherman (supertool, core, hacks) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Join the brave and happy few, who choose a different path. Enter on the boulevard of broken dreams. Start a new thread and post a photo daily of any SAK 74mm or smaller ( you can switch it up daily ) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo of a modded knife or multitool with your EDC Start a new thread with a photo showing the axe in use Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must buy an item through the MTo Store

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