making the knife a weapon.
I don't have a Soldier, but I do have a OH Trekker, plain edge. Is the Soldier's blade as rounded on the tip as the OHT? If so, that is definitely not an ideal blade to weaponize. Obviously it can still inflict a nasty cut, like any sharp blade, but the penetration seems pretty badly hindered.
Quote from: Etherealicer on December 09, 2017, 09:54:36 PMmaking the knife a weapon.I'm going to take some degree of umbrage with that statement. A slipjoint works fine MOST of the time. But it has limits in terms of strength- not just the point it breaks, but the point it closes, particularly when being abused. A locking blade has fewer limits, but they are still there. A fixed blade has the fewest. When you get cut with a folder is most likely when openging or closing, that's why I prefer a one handed opener- the fixed blade is safer in this regaurd, but it's bulky.Smaller blades can server in the place of a larger one. Most of the time. Sorta. I'd rather choke up on a 4-5 blade to make fine cuts rather than try to use a 58mm for processing something like tinder or a large piece of meat or cutting through something like heavy duty, 2" wide nylon webbing or rope. In much the same way that you can use a 3oz ball peen in place for a full sized framing hammer- you reach the point at which the joke isn't very funny any more. But to say that makes it a "weapon" is... interesting. Particularly as a condemnation. It's a better tool. How the tool is used is at the discretion of the user. And if given the choice between a 3.5", non locking knife, and a 4" locking knife with the same capabilities, I"m taking the locking knife. Of course, if the bulk of a fixed blade isn't a problem I"m taking a fixed blade and a multitool.
It is a shame to have to think this way, but it is what it is, and sadly we do seem to have an element of knife crime in the UK, and have to amend our carrying habits accordingly.
Knife crime has also jumped by 20% to 34,703 incidents – the highest level for seven years. The largest increase in knife crime came in London, which accounted for 40% of the rise.
This year, 2017, is set to be the worst for fatal stabbings of young people since 2008, when 42 died. Both figures are well above the trend of the past 40 years, which puts stabbing deaths at about one young person a fortnight.
I doubt the forthcoming knife sale law changes will have much effect on knife crime, largely as I am told repeatedly by police friends that most knife crime is connected with domestic/kitchen knives, which are altogether more readily available.
surprised about Switzerland...Here in Spain (and I guess most of the EU) the combination of lock + OHO makes it a weapon to the sight of the authorities and the street people. Can't fight against that, too much TV and ill-thoughts floating around everywhere. OHO is frowned uponlocking is frowned uponput those two together in a knife and you get everybody running like crazy if you pull it out
Ether, I read your full post. Trust me. Every part was read, taken individually and as part of the total. No matter how fine most of the ingredients are in the soup, if you put one rotten ingredient in there, the soup is rotten. And I should know better than to try to have this conversation online. Even here. I had more that I wanted to say, but I didn't want to bruise anyone's feelings. And honestly, any discussion about "weapons" vs "tools" in intrinsically political and deeply personal. It's like talking about the weather without talking about water and air.
To me, the locking feature was always a safety feature. I know we're going off topic here, sorry to derail the thread, but it is an interesting conversation. I think we're dealing with a significant amount reaction to tragedy and maybe not reality. I hate to see tools become perceived as weapons because of a certain feature or set of features.
if it's so easy, why not ban crime itself in the first place?
I don't know where I stand on the whole locking/OHO/weapons issue. I mean I like those kinds of knives. But then again I know a few people that I really don't want to see carrying one. Especially when drunk.
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Quote from: gdoolittle on December 15, 2017, 02:38:02 PM(Image removed from quote.)How I wish I had one of those instead of the RTAK II. The handle on this thing just doesn't fit my hand at all
Would give credit if I could remember, but some youtuber said to give a 5-year old a red marker and tell them to come at you, then try to defend........very sobering thought.