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Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison

ie Offline McStitchy

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Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
on: February 23, 2018, 07:59:16 PM
Just got this little boy in the mail today and wanted to share a quick size comparison, as a lot of people seem to be surprised when they ordered​ it.

Here it is with a familiar companion..



Crunch & 125mm Plier Wrench at max opening.



Although the Crunch seems to open wider it will not have a firm grip at a nut that fills that space up completely.

Due to the clever design the Knipex has a powerful grip which is more than adequate for its purpose.

Very solid and presize feel.

I'm happy  :D
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 08:02:48 PM by MTMatt »


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 11:51:31 PM
Good pics, thanks.   :cheers:   :dd:   :drool:


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 11:52:27 PM
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Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 12:44:33 AM
Great Pics and idea! :like:

All in your point of view .

I am somewhat obsessed with the Tiny Too!




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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 05:25:23 AM
Great Pics and idea! :like:

All in your point of view .

I am somewhat obsessed with the Tiny Too!

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Hey ezdog,

thanks for adding your pics.

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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 11:46:42 AM
good tool and thx for the pics!  :salute:
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
Reminds me of pictures I took of the 125mm Cobra a while ago. I’ll just leave them here...




« Last Edit: February 24, 2018, 12:35:59 PM by Brock O Lee »
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ie Offline McStitchy

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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #8 on: February 24, 2018, 02:12:52 PM
Reminds me of pictures I took of the 125mm Cobra a while ago. I’ll just leave them here...





I have that one in mind too unfortunately  :facepalm:

Thanks Lee  :tu:


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Reply #9 on: February 24, 2018, 02:32:33 PM
They belong together,I think you know that! :think:


Reminds me of pictures I took of the 125mm Cobra a while ago. I’ll just leave them here...





I have that one in mind too unfortunately  :facepalm:

Thanks Lee  :tu:
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 04:36:18 PM
Reminds me of pictures I took of the 125mm Cobra a while ago. I’ll just leave them here...



PAC-MAN   :rofl: :ahhh
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 11:00:25 PM
Reminds me of pictures I took of the 125mm Cobra a while ago. I’ll just leave them here...



PAC-MAN   :rofl: :ahhh

Great! Now I've got that sound stuck in my head  :ahhh

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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 05:18:57 AM
I've had both the Crunch and plier wrench now and prefer the plier wrench. The part on the Crunch where the bottom section clicks in leaves a little to be desired. I just got the 125mm Cobra pliers myself and are curious to play around with them.  :climber:
I knew my wife was a keeper when she transitioned from calling it a knife thingy to a multi-tool.

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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 10:13:14 AM
I've had both the Crunch and plier wrench now and prefer the plier wrench. The part on the Crunch where the bottom section clicks in leaves a little to be desired. I just got the 125mm Cobra pliers myself and are curious to play around with them.  :climber:

You're right there Joe. The Crunch is a compromise, but a nice one for me.
It's supposed to compliment the Plier Wrench, ... probably until I've got a Cobra  :facepalm:


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #14 on: March 28, 2018, 04:43:20 AM
Here is a picture of my Cobra pliers being used to open up a bottle of Tabasco Sriracha sauce,
pliers.jpg
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #15 on: March 28, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
Here is a picture of my Cobra pliers being used to open up a bottle of Tabasco Sriracha sauce,

A very appropriate use for this tool!  Everyone should have a set of pliers at the table!  :D
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #16 on: March 28, 2018, 03:43:00 PM
Here is a picture of my Cobra pliers being used to open up a bottle of Tabasco Sriracha sauce,



...decided to buy a Climber meanwhile, so the Cobra has to wait in the store a bit longer  :whistle:


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #17 on: March 29, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
Would it be possible to have pliers with a similar mechanism on a multitool?

There wouldn't be a problem making a non-folding version, where the handles just contain some tools.

But would there be a way to make it a folding or sliding head tool?


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #18 on: April 16, 2018, 09:16:20 PM
Yes, no, no point...?


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #19 on: April 16, 2018, 10:16:35 PM
One could certainly make folding handles. And for the 125mm that might make it into a true pocket champion. The plier head section is fairly large though, so that would fill the folded handles pretty much all by itself. Maybe add some outside tools Ă  la Wave, but that would make it thicker and clumsier too.
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #20 on: April 17, 2018, 02:43:32 PM
my oldest Knipex, with some scars and battle stories to tell   :salute:

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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #21 on: April 17, 2018, 07:51:14 PM
Yes, no, no point...?

Hi Raukodur, that would be great.
But I cannot think of a way that would make it more pocketable, only slightly reshape the package.
Maybe by removing the one handle at the lowest/widest position by allowing to fully pup out the button? :think:

...nah.


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Reply #22 on: April 17, 2018, 07:52:23 PM
my oldest Knipex, with some scars and battle stories to tell   :salute:

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Wow TP, nicely pabloed  :like:

I would guess it's around 20 years old?


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #23 on: April 18, 2018, 12:23:59 AM
But I cannot think of a way that would make it more pocketable, only slightly reshape the package.

I was thinking along the lines of some amputation and significant modding. With the tiny one that could be a 6-7cm long pocket rocket. Conceptually something along these lines:
FoldableHandleConceptSketch.jpg
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #24 on: April 18, 2018, 08:23:52 AM
But I cannot think of a way that would make it more pocketable, only slightly reshape the package.

I was thinking along the lines of some amputation and significant modding. With the tiny one that could be a 6-7cm long pocket rocket. Conceptually something along these lines:

Vidar, that's awesome  :o
Did you create those models/conceptual pictures?
That's a very good idea indeed  :ahhh


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #25 on: April 18, 2018, 10:35:45 AM
But I cannot think of a way that would make it more pocketable, only slightly reshape the package.

I was thinking along the lines of some amputation and significant modding. With the tiny one that could be a 6-7cm long pocket rocket. Conceptually something along these lines:

Vidar, that's awesome  :o
Did you create those models/conceptual pictures?
That's a very good idea indeed  :ahhh

It was quick and dirty, but shows the concept. A guy named Niko Sinogowitz had made a 3D model of the plier available already, so with a few changes that was the quick part. Yay for him sharing! :tu:

The handles would need locking of course, and the entire thing could certainly be upstyled, but as a concept that could be great? It is even tempting to give it a shot at some point. (Far too busy for that now though).

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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #26 on: April 18, 2018, 01:18:44 PM
my oldest Knipex, with some scars and battle stories to tell   :salute:

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Wow TP, nicely pabloed  :like:

I would guess it's around 20 years old?

got it in 2012 and it was already used  :D
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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #27 on: April 18, 2018, 02:07:29 PM
But I cannot think of a way that would make it more pocketable, only slightly reshape the package.

I was thinking along the lines of some amputation and significant modding. With the tiny one that could be a 6-7cm long pocket rocket. Conceptually something along these lines:

Love it.  I wonder if Rebar handles could be used? :think:


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #28 on: April 26, 2018, 12:05:15 AM
Vidar, would that design not work but with normal butterfly handles, or maybe sliding handles Gerber-style? They would have to be deep, and I agree with you that any extra tools would have to be on the outside, but that could still give you the main stuff we all use - long reach flathead and phillips, file/saw, knife


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Re: Knipex Plier Wrench 125mm quick size comparison
Reply #29 on: April 26, 2018, 12:44:58 AM
Vidar, would that design not work but with normal butterfly handles, or maybe sliding handles Gerber-style? They would have to be deep, and I agree with you that any extra tools would have to be on the outside, but that could still give you the main stuff we all use - long reach flathead and phillips, file/saw, knife

I thought about that setup for all of 5 minutes or so, so it was very much a rough sketch of one possible way to do it. I did consider butterfly handles, but believed the sharp handles that would give with use would be a bad thing. Outside tools folded the other way as with Wave would help of course.

I've considered sliding handles a fair bit for other stuff as well, and they tend to need more parts and take more room overall than say a simple rotating mechanism. A sliding feature is also best with straight items, and the plier heads are not all that straight. (With a custom design that could be changed of course). It would remedy the sharp handles though.

I roughed out the sideways opening handles as they would give a good grip surface and could easily be made to fit very closely to the existing head. And if need be that extra hinge might help in tight spots for for gripping something from the side at a flat surface. The downside is the need to lock the handles in position for normal use.

I also didn't really think too far about adding other tools to it - I thought more along the lines of a companion to some other multi-tool. I'm not sure the short and rather blocky shape when closed will provide much of a handle for say knife use? Of course you would save some handle weight over two different tools each with their own handles. What I did consider was adding a holder for a standard 1/4" screwdriver bits - there might be room for a short double sided bit or two with the plierhead. That could be useful without getting in the way of anything else.

I think the concept is nice, but ideally one should change the head and/ or angles of the handles too for a more compact version still. It would be fun to give it a go, but just not enough time around these days.

Anyway, that was my brain droppings at the subject. I'm sure others can try some other approaches? That plier kind of deserves a truly pocketable version. :)

 
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