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new ST with bend in handles
on: November 17, 2008, 09:17:43 PM
I played with my new ST-X this weekend (a Christmas gift which I was supposed to leave alone until Christmas) and i noticed a bend on one side of each handle at the tool end (as opposed to the plier end) of the handle.  Its barely visible.  There is a slight bend (about 1mm) inward toward the center of the handle but outboard of the pin.  I believe it is meant to create some compression of the tools so they don't get too loose over the years.  Is this correct? 


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 11:04:43 PM
Mine appears similar , not to worry.

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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 11:47:08 PM
I'm not understanding the description. Could someone perhaps rephrase?   :think:
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 11:52:16 PM
I'm not understanding the description. Could someone perhaps rephrase?   :think:
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 10:34:05 PM
Rephrase Attempt #1:
The 2 flat sides ("scales") of each handle are made of flat plate stainless steel.  They are stamped out using a press into a rectangular shape with the large end (plier end) and the small end (tool end).  When looking at the end view of the small end, you will see a sandwhich of 5 tools with a scale on one side and one on the other side.  Looking closely will reveal that one scale (one side of the handle) will have a very slight bend inward toward the center of the sandwhich.  This acts to press the sandwhich of tools together to keep it tight and snug.  And yes, this is a good design.  Probably an improvement over possibly earlier models that may not have this feature.


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #5 on: November 22, 2008, 11:02:14 AM
I cant say this is something I have noticed  :think: I think were going to need pics on this one .

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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #6 on: November 22, 2008, 05:43:20 PM
Yeah, I looked at my SwissTools and I didn't notice any slight bends or anything!
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 12:30:53 AM
See "Swisstool X and Spirit comparison pics" 
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5232.0.html

I think the bend shows up in the scissors comparison photo where the scissors is attached to the Swisstool on its right-side handle.  You can't see the bend itself but you can see it in the reflection of the mirror finish on the handle.


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 12:30:26 PM
I'd love to help, but I can't see what you mean.  :-\
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
I understand what you are saying but i think it may be an optical illusion rather than an actual bend but with out some accurate measuring implement i can't really decide :-\
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 05:42:32 PM
There is a ruler on the handle how far up should we be looking?  Not that I have one to look at other than Ben's pics.
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #11 on: November 24, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
I understand what you are saying but i think it may be an optical illusion rather than an actual bend but with out some accurate measuring implement i can't really decide :-\
I'd say Ryan has the truth of it mate :), I've looked and looked at both of mine, but just don't see it :-\
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #12 on: November 28, 2008, 08:52:09 AM
There is a ruler on the handle how far up should we be looking?  Not that I have one to look at other than Ben's pics.
Look toward the end of the handle just past the pin that holds the scissors.


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #13 on: November 28, 2008, 09:15:22 AM
There is a ruler on the handle how far up should we be looking?  Not that I have one to look at other than Ben's pics.
Look toward the end of the handle just past the pin that holds the scissors.

Tried looking my self a few times, don't think I see it as well. Possible of you to post some pics?


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #14 on: November 29, 2008, 08:41:49 AM
don't know how.


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #15 on: November 29, 2008, 08:48:27 AM
Carl, if I understand you correctly both of my SwissTools have the bends you describe.
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #16 on: December 02, 2008, 06:39:21 AM
 David, what year are your Swisstools?  Mine is the new version with the newer wider plier head purchased 2 months ago.   A very small, almost undetectable bend, one on each handle, correct?  You can actually see it when looking at the mirrored stainless steel reflection.  I believe they are there to prevent too much side play in the tools and keep things nice and snug.   
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #17 on: December 02, 2008, 09:16:19 AM
Both my SwissTools have the newer plier head and were bought in the month of October of this year. When I first noticed this bend I thought it was a quality issue. I jumped to that conclusion since about half of the stuff I`ve bought since this summer has been sent back because of quality issues. But as I looked at it I came to the same conclusion as you that it was designed that way to take the slack out and help hold the tools in place. I think the SwissTool is a great MT. I do wish the handles were a little closer together. It would be a much easier to use the pliers if they were.
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #18 on: December 02, 2008, 09:27:35 AM
I do wish the handles were a little closer together. It would be a much easier to use the pliers if they were.


Try one of the older models with a 98 plier head

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,2463.msg51780.html#msg51780

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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #19 on: December 02, 2008, 11:37:22 AM
See "Swisstool X and Spirit comparison pics" 
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5232.0.html

I think the bend shows up in the scissors comparison photo where the scissors is attached to the Swisstool on its right-side handle.  You can't see the bend itself but you can see it in the reflection of the mirror finish on the handle.

Just so you know, I took those pics and the Swisstool is a '98.
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #20 on: December 02, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
Dunc5, thank you for the advice and link. It`s interesting to see the changes over the years.
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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #21 on: December 03, 2008, 02:00:26 AM
Benner,

 so i guess the bend is on almost all Swisstools unless it was left out on the '97 models.   


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Re: new ST with bend in handles
Reply #22 on: March 23, 2009, 08:19:43 PM
Benner,

 so i guess the bend is on almost all Swisstools unless it was left out on the '97 models.   

I need to do a little more research but I think the very early Swisstools ( no hard wire notch ) didn't have this bend and if I'm right I think they were peened ( rivet hit to get the right tension on blades with no play ) by hand judging by the marks on one side on my two . Later models weren't peened like this and I think this is where the bend in the end of the handle controls the tension .
    This is just my opinion and I need to look into it a bit more and try and take some macro shots .Any further info or opinions are as always very welcome .

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