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Scale/straight pin question
on: April 16, 2018, 05:37:11 PM
I'm wondering if either the translucent or stayglow scales support the straight pin, thanks in advance to the Awl knowing
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #1 on: April 16, 2018, 06:01:24 PM
I know Stayglow doesn't (probably because since they're solid, they use old molds), but I think translucent scales still have the slot.
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #2 on: April 16, 2018, 06:07:35 PM
Quote from: cody6268 on April 16, 2018, 06:01:24 PM
I know Stayglow doesn't (probably because since they're solid, they use old molds), but I think translucent scales still have the slot.

Thanks, I was thinking the same for the stayglow, can't find any mention for the translucent, hopefully someone who has one will chime in
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #3 on: April 16, 2018, 06:10:51 PM
Crappy pics but the ruby and silvertech has

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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #4 on: April 16, 2018, 06:13:10 PM
Quote from: kottskrapa on April 16, 2018, 06:10:51 PM
Crappy pics but the ruby and silvertech has(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)

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Thanks for the confirmation :tu:
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #5 on: April 16, 2018, 07:11:14 PM
No problem!

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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 07:21:04 PM
The orange Colour Twins spartan has one of those holes too.
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Jones on April 16, 2018, 05:37:11 PM
I'm wondering if either the translucent or stayglow scales support the straight pin, thanks in advance to the Awl knowing

It would be best to ask in advance as YMMV whether or not the scales have a slot for the straight pin, unless they're "plus" scales with the pen slot. The "plus" knives with corkscrews come with pen, straight pin and micro screwdriver.

I just checked my stash of 91mm scales in black, red, ruby and silver tech. All the "plus" scales have a slot for the straight pin along with the slot for the long pen.  Some of the other "non-plus" do and some of them do not, including a set of new "non-plus" ruby scales that don't have the straight pin slot. These are not "pulls" from old knives but new, unused scales. Also checked some I had put on 91mm SAKs over the past couple years. A set of emerald don't and neither do the black ones. I have four 2015 Woodsman b from the limited Mexico reissue, two with ruby and two with red scales. All have straight pin slots.

My conclusion: Plus scales will have a straight pin slot. Among the "non-plus", some will and some won't, both solid and translucent.

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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Thanks, I'm looking at Huntsman's, and was thinking Silvertech, we'll see :cheers:
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #9 on: April 17, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
My Silvertech Spartan has a pin slot.  :tu:
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #10 on: April 17, 2018, 01:20:32 PM
Dang, learn something new every day! I checked two of my more recent SAKs - Huntsman and Ranger - and both have a hole for a pin in the corkscrew bay! Never noticed these holes until I checks the knives last night. I also check my 700th anniversary Huntsman, no hole.

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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: jalind on April 16, 2018, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Jones on April 16, 2018, 05:37:11 PM
I'm wondering if either the translucent or stayglow scales support the straight pin, thanks in advance to the Awl knowing

My conclusion: Plus scales will have a straight pin slot. Among the "non-plus", some will and some won't, both solid and translucent.

John

my experience and current SAKs agree with that  :salute:
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #12 on: April 17, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Is it possible to define a start date for the pin hole appearing in non-Plus scales?
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #13 on: April 17, 2018, 06:32:32 PM
I have it down as 2009? in the dating  spready
Cant remember where I got that from  :twak:
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #14 on: April 17, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
Quote from: jalind on April 16, 2018, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Jones on April 16, 2018, 05:37:11 PM
I'm wondering if either the translucent or stayglow scales support the straight pin, thanks in advance to the Awl knowing
My conclusion: Plus scales will have a straight pin slot. Among the "non-plus", some will and some won't, both solid and translucent.

John
I am aware of at least one exception to this.  I have an old Scientist that came with "Plus" scales that have the ink pen but no hole for a straight pin.
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #15 on: April 18, 2018, 12:42:50 AM
Quote from: TennTexan on April 17, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
Quote from: jalind on April 16, 2018, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Jones on April 16, 2018, 05:37:11 PM
I'm wondering if either the translucent or stayglow scales support the straight pin, thanks in advance to the Awl knowing
My conclusion: Plus scales will have a straight pin slot. Among the "non-plus", some will and some won't, both solid and translucent.

John
I am aware of at least one exception to this.  I have an old Scientist that came with "Plus" scales that have the ink pen but no hole for a straight pin.

My comment was more about current production and new shelf stock. Had to go look at both of mine; they both have straight pins. Go far enough into the WayBack Machine and there is a block of years with Plus knives made prior to adding a straight pin to them. The Wiki has more information about the straight pin and the time period from implementation of Plus scales in 1985 to the straight pin being added in 1991. Your Scientist is part of that evolution that adds tools and features over time. If they're the original scales, it will help date your Scientist. I know mine are post-1991.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...dex.php?page=Straight+Pin

John
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ca Offline Greg Jones

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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #16 on: April 18, 2018, 01:04:07 AM
Awl good info  :tu:
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us Offline Aloha

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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #17 on: April 18, 2018, 01:23:08 AM
I've got nothing to add other than I love the pin hole in the scale.  Such wonderful addition. 
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #18 on: April 18, 2018, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on April 17, 2018, 06:32:32 PM
I have it down as 2009? in the dating  spready
Cant remember where I got that from  :twak:

Oops.  I did look at your spreadsheet but didn't spot the date.  Thanks Huntsman.
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Re: Scale/straight pin question
Reply #19 on: April 18, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: Aloha007 on April 18, 2018, 01:23:08 AM
I've got nothing to add other than I love the pin hole in the scale.  Such wonderful addition.

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Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Start a new thread and post a photo of the 110 knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Fieldmaster SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your Buck knives in use Start a new thread and post a photo of a fixed blade for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way. Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your Mora knives in use Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of an Executive or Director for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your zip ties in use Start a new thread and post a photo of a Camper SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a picture of a fish or fishing kit with a multitool Must start a thread with a photo of your EDC watch Join the brave and happy few, who choose a different path. Enter on the boulevard of broken dreams. Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread and post a photo of the 111mm sak for thirty (30) consecutive days.

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