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a hand drill that works everywhere

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a hand drill that works everywhere
on: August 14, 2018, 05:29:15 PM
I am hoping someone will make a hand crank super capacitor hand drill that works everywhere and not just where theres a plug
here is a super capacitor hand drill that charges in 15 seconds with a 5 volt 55 watt plug from my wall
https://www.amazon.com/BLUCAVE-DSD-46FL-2BLU-Flashcell-Cordless-Screwdriver/dp/B012CHMW5Y
here is a hand crank that is charging a fan ( it should be charging the super capacitor hand drill)

I need my hand drill to work everywhere, no matter where I am, I need my tools
I hope someone will make a hand crank super capacitor hand drill
Its a very small subject that when it is covered will be answered and everyone will be allowed to use their hand drill everywhere, thank you for letting me post
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #1 on: August 14, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
Wouldn't you be better off with an actual hand powered drill?
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #2 on: August 14, 2018, 08:40:52 PM
Welcome to :MTO:

They have really good battery powered option these days :think: So maybe I am missing the point :shrug: Could you elaborate more please  :tu:


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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #3 on: August 14, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
Wouldn't you be better off with an actual hand powered drill?

They also make solar powered chargers for phones and such, I’m sure they can be modded to charge a battery for a cordless drill too.

Otherwise I’m sure with an inverter they will work with the regular charger for the cordless drills


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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #4 on: August 14, 2018, 11:40:12 PM
Wouldn't you be better off with an actual hand powered drill?

+1

Generating electricity by hand cranking and then store electric energy (in a battery, super capacitor, whatever) which will later drive a motor takes many steps. Each step will be less than 100% effective. Thus you will spend more energy overall by hand cranking and going through these steps than actually using a direct hand powered drill. (Many of which are crank based anyway). The purely manual ones are also very reliable as compared to a setup with lot more failure and wear points.

Coolness or gadget factor is of course much higher than for a hand powered drill, but from a pragmatic and reliability viewpoint I'd choose a manual drill for go anywhere tasks away from power.

« Last Edit: August 14, 2018, 11:43:10 PM by Vidar »
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 12:12:10 AM
I would be surprised if you would get more than 50% efficiency with hand crank charged super capacitor drill.

Also hand drills have all the gadget and coolness factor one could want.  :gimme:
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Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 12:41:46 AM
Also hand drills have all the gadget and coolness factor one could want.  :gimme:

The ones I got here are more of a no frills vintage factor - gadget seems to have been very far from the manufacturers priority.  :cheers:
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #7 on: August 15, 2018, 12:53:17 AM
These work everywhere:






Such tools as these have been used to build everything from fine furniture to Man O'Wars.




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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #8 on: August 15, 2018, 01:32:19 AM
An old saying is "Keep it simple stupid".  The more mechanically simple something is, the less likely it will fail. The old style brace has been used for centuries (and before that, the auger), and it has always worked well (and it's what they built the barn with on the property a century ago, and it's still standing). I have this at least 60 year old Miller's Falls 2-A (made 1938-1957) that I use for most drilling (usually wood). It was left here by the original owners of the house (built in the 1950s), and my folks moved here in 1969. Three electric drills, and a dozen cordless drills have supposedly surpassed it over the years, but this is the only one that still works like new (even the 40 year old Craftsman I use when this won't work needs a new chuck and a full rebuild). 

This article shows how simple it is, just a handful of parts. Those dynamo powered flashlights, when they were a big thing, only lasted me a couple of years. I've got Eveready lanterns going on 10.

http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/08/04/millers-falls-no-2/

Not to mention, it looks a lot better than the paint spattered, beat-up Hitachi impact, so I can actually display it on a shelf when I'm not using it.  Another I use is a C.M Co, Long Island, NY that I rebuilt (it was a rusted pile of junk when I found it in a barn on a property we leased at the time).  The Miller's Falls is on the left, the C.M. Co is on the right.


2017-01-02_07-55-04 by cody6268, on Flickr


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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #9 on: August 15, 2018, 01:52:28 AM



Show me a 100-year-old barn, and I'll show you a brace and bit.   :tu:


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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #10 on: August 15, 2018, 02:19:22 AM
An old saying is "Keep it simple stupid".  The more mechanically simple something is, the less likely it will fail. The old style brace has been used for centuries (and before that, the auger), and it has always worked well (and it's what they built the barn with on the property a century ago, and it's still standing). I have this at least 60 year old Miller's Falls 2-A (made 1938-1957) that I use for most drilling (usually wood). It was left here by the original owners of the house (built in the 1950s), and my folks moved here in 1969. Three electric drills, and a dozen cordless drills have supposedly surpassed it over the years, but this is the only one that still works like new (even the 40 year old Craftsman I use when this won't work needs a new chuck and a full rebuild). 

This article shows how simple it is, just a handful of parts. Those dynamo powered flashlights, when they were a big thing, only lasted me a couple of years. I've got Eveready lanterns going on 10.

http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/08/04/millers-falls-no-2/

Not to mention, it looks a lot better than the paint spattered, beat-up Hitachi impact, so I can actually display it on a shelf when I'm not using it.  Another I use is a C.M Co, Long Island, NY that I rebuilt (it was a rusted pile of junk when I found it in a barn on a property we leased at the time).  The Miller's Falls is on the left, the C.M. Co is on the right.


2017-01-02_07-55-04 by cody6268, on Flickr

Nice one, Cody.

Here's my Miller's Falls 5a, using my Leatherman Super Tool to conduct maintenance...
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #11 on: August 15, 2018, 02:30:04 AM
The key is to keep that bolt tight....but not too tight.   :D :tu:


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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #12 on: August 15, 2018, 07:54:13 AM
Glad to know I am not the only one who still uses a mechanical hand drill. :like:

I don't always use one, but they are great when noise would be an issue or when you don't want drywall dust all over the house. :)

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Reply #13 on: August 15, 2018, 11:30:28 AM
Glad to know I am not the only one who still uses a mechanical hand drill. :like:

I don't always use one, but they are great when noise would be an issue or when you don't want drywall dust all over the house. :)

Nothing wrong with still using old school tools, a lot of time they work a whole lot better if you are working on e.g. antique furniture or some old machine, or like you said need to be more gentle with what you are doing.  :)
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #14 on: August 15, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
When I think of a "Hand Drill" I can only thinlk of mechanical and not electrical models anyway?

So as far as I know any hand drill will work anywhere anyway each one powered purely by the operator as the motor.

I use a lot of different drills for a lot of different uses and I still probably use the Yankee Push Drill the most of the non-powered drills but I also surely use powered drills 100 times to each single time that I do not.

https://www.garrettwade.com/garrett-wade-yankee-push-drill-gp.html

I also have ZERO problem using the powered units anywhere and anytime,it is just a matter of having the right tool for the job and if I do I also have charged batteries as needed.

These days there is little you can not do on battery power whether charged in a conventional manner or not.
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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #15 on: August 15, 2018, 01:13:30 PM
Glad to know I am not the only one who still uses a mechanical hand drill. :like:

I don't always use one, but they are great when noise would be an issue or when you don't want drywall dust all over the house. :)

Nothing wrong with still using old school tools, a lot of time they work a whole lot better if you are working on e.g. antique furniture or some old machine, or like you said need to be more gentle with what you are doing.  :)
+1 Very true. :cheers:

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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #16 on: August 16, 2018, 02:01:50 PM
Glad to know I am not the only one who still uses a mechanical hand drill. :like:

I don't always use one, but they are great when noise would be an issue or when you don't want drywall dust all over the house. :)

Nothing wrong with still using old school tools, a lot of time they work a whole lot better if you are working on e.g. antique furniture or some old machine, or like you said need to be more gentle with what you are doing.  :)
+1 Very true. :cheers:

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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #17 on: August 16, 2018, 02:02:32 PM
When I think of a "Hand Drill" I can only thinlk of mechanical and not electrical models anyway?

So as far as I know any hand drill will work anywhere anyway each one powered purely by the operator as the motor.

I use a lot of different drills for a lot of different uses and I still probably use the Yankee Push Drill the most of the non-powered drills but I also surely use powered drills 100 times to each single time that I do not.

https://www.garrettwade.com/garrett-wade-yankee-push-drill-gp.html

I also have ZERO problem using the powered units anywhere and anytime,it is just a matter of having the right tool for the job and if I do I also have charged batteries as needed.

These days there is little you can not do on battery power whether charged in a conventional manner or not.


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Re: a hand drill that works everywhere
Reply #18 on: August 16, 2018, 02:03:38 PM
Wouldn't you be better off with an actual hand powered drill?

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Reply #19 on: August 16, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
The key is to keep that bolt tight....but not too tight.   :D :tu:

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