I’m watching to see how our Knights are doing over there. I’ve heard even the Boy Scouts can’t carry a knife anymore.
However this is California, not the EU. But maybe look up the wording of your relevant local laws and see how you interpret it (and if you want to be safe, how you expect authorities might interpret it).
Quote from: Rapidray on September 23, 2018, 05:12:28 AM I’m watching to see how our Knights are doing over there. I’ve heard even the Boy Scouts can’t carry a knife anymore. I don’t know about Scouts in the UK, but I am one here in Ireland, which arguably has more restrictive knife laws.Most of them seem to carry while on camps, and hikes out in the country. Which is technically allowed, especially if you’re a scout. Carrying knives in the country: fine. Carrying knives as a scout on scout business in the country: even more fine. The Irish laws say that knives in public are prohibited unless the person carrying them has a good reason. Camping is considered a good reason to have a knife out in the country, but not in the town shop. Work (such as an electrician) is considered a good reason to have a knife, but only if you are currently in the business of carrying out your work.Etc.... There are plenty of camping shops selling Victorinox, etc. Even in the big city. (Nevermind that it’s over priced. )I bought three Moras through a scout group buy early this year. one of which was for my scout brother, and the other is in Texas ( I think).Technically, the ordinary person doesn’t seem to have to worry about the knife law technically saying that it’s illegal to EDC a SAK. The law is open to interpretation by the police as to what constitutes a good reason to carry a knife, so just don’t do anything stupid/illegal while carrying a small knife such as a Classic, and don’t bring it to the bar, events, etc, and you should be fine.
Sadly I would have to agree that the Swisscard is illegal under UK law without good reason in public.
I've carried the Swisscard in my wallet for around three years, but only removed the blade and put it into storage around 2 years ago when a Police Officer warned me that I could be arrested for carrying it. Luckily, I was was in work at the time and it was a friendly warning.
Quote from: GoatDragon on September 23, 2018, 05:46:45 AMHowever this is California, not the EU. But maybe look up the wording of your relevant local laws and see how you interpret it (and if you want to be safe, how you expect authorities might interpret it).Don't mix up EU with UK; there are even great differences in knife laws among EU-countries and as far as I know California and New York are also not comparable in law situation ... you see the point. Therefore looking in the local laws is always good, as you said.
Quote from: Peter1960 on September 23, 2018, 10:17:21 AMQuote from: GoatDragon on September 23, 2018, 05:46:45 AMHowever this is California, not the EU. But maybe look up the wording of your relevant local laws and see how you interpret it (and if you want to be safe, how you expect authorities might interpret it).Don't mix up EU with UK; there are even great differences in knife laws among EU-countries and as far as I know California and New York are also not comparable in law situation ... you see the point. Therefore looking in the local laws is always good, as you said.Psh, what's the difference?
Is a Swisscard UK legal?Now I don't believe it is due to the fact that the blade contained within every Swisscard is of fixed design. Ie - it's not a folding blade.. True, it's so small that you'd be hard pushed to hurt another person with it, but nevertheless, the law is the law and this little blade falls outside of what is clearly defined as being a legal carry knife (without good reason, of course). Am I right or wrong?
If its up to the "discretion" of an officer, why take the chance? I'd rather not debate legality of grey matters with an officer.
Quote from: Aloha007 on September 25, 2018, 05:24:27 PMIf its up to the "discretion" of an officer, why take the chance? I'd rather not debate legality of grey matters with an officer. I do agree with you but it’s affectively banning these knives by scaring people into not “taking a chance”. In my opinion any and all laws should be clear as day with no room for interperitation from anyone, let alone a police officer. Just to be clear, I respect police and honor them for doing what they do on a daily basis. It’s not them but the lawmakers that I think need a wack in the head.
True!But have you seen what is happening in China? They are tracking everyone by 2020 thru cameras and it’s showing everyone your credit score. If its good enough you get perks and discounts. But if you been bad...nothing and we won’t go if you even have a record.
Quote from: Rapidray on September 25, 2018, 08:23:09 PMTrue!But have you seen what is happening in China? They are tracking everyone by 2020 thru cameras and it’s showing everyone your credit score. If its good enough you get perks and discounts. But if you been bad...nothing and we won’t go if you even have a record.A case of 1984’s “there are no rules, only things that big brother doesn’t like”?