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on: December 07, 2008, 05:54:22 PM
Fenix are planning on updating the LxT range? I've noticed that i very rarely use med/high or the strobes on my LxD Q5's so was contemplating getting an L2T but thought that if they were planning on updating the LxT range with a better emitter then i would hold off for a bit before getting one.

Or does any one have any suggestions for a 2xAA 2 level (bright and not bright) comparable to the L2D Q5? Price £35max :)

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Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 11:28:02 PM
Fenix are planning on updating the LxT range? I've noticed that i very rarely use med/high or the strobes on my LxD Q5's so was contemplating getting an L2T but thought that if they were planning on updating the LxT range with a better emitter then i would hold off for a bit before getting one.

Dunno :think:

Or does any one have any suggestions for a 2xAA 2 level (bright and not bright) comparable to the L2D Q5? Price £35max :)

Cheers
Ryan

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Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 11:33:22 PM
Bob's so helpful isn't he.  :D
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Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 11:36:27 PM
Isn't the LxT already Q2 or Q4?


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Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 11:48:42 PM
Fenix are planning on updating the LxT range? I've noticed that i very rarely use med/high or the strobes on my LxD Q5's so was contemplating getting an L2T but thought that if they were planning on updating the LxT range with a better emitter then i would hold off for a bit before getting one.

Dunno :think:

Or does any one have any suggestions for a 2xAA 2 level (bright and not bright) comparable to the L2D Q5? Price £35max :)

Cheers
Ryan

No idea :think:


Thanks Bob! If only everyone here was so helpful :D
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Reply #5 on: December 07, 2008, 11:49:01 PM
Isn't the LxT already Q2 or Q4?

Q2 at the moment :)
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Reply #6 on: December 07, 2008, 11:51:51 PM
Fenix are planning on updating the LxT range? I've noticed that i very rarely use med/high or the strobes on my LxD Q5's so was contemplating getting an L2T but thought that if they were planning on updating the LxT range with a better emitter then i would hold off for a bit before getting one.

Dunno :think:

Or does any one have any suggestions for a 2xAA 2 level (bright and not bright) comparable to the L2D Q5? Price £35max :)

Cheers
Ryan

No idea :think:


Thanks Bob! If only everyone here was so helpful :D

Just trying to be supportive mate! :salute:


Perhaps if you offered a free Skeletool for the correct answer you would get more of a response? :D
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Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 11:54:49 PM
AFAIK, the LxT models are not scheduled to be upgraded. 

What kind of battery do you use Roadie?  The reason I'm asking is that I don't recommend the L2T or similar two-stage models for use with alkaline batteries.
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Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 12:00:06 AM
Just trying to be supportive mate! :salute:
Perhaps if you offered a free Skeletool for the correct answer you would get more of a response? :D

Well you at least drew a crowd to my topic for me :)

Hmmm free tools for answers.....maybe thats the way Ben and Mike think the forum runs :D
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Reply #9 on: December 08, 2008, 12:01:19 AM
AFAIK, the LxT models are not scheduled to be upgraded. 

What kind of battery do you use Roadie?  The reason I'm asking is that I don't recommend the L2T or similar two-stage models for use with alkaline batteries.

Ah well, i suppose 150 odd lumens will do me fine ::) :D

Nimh type batteries, can i ask why you don't recommend alkaline ones though :think :)
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Reply #10 on: December 08, 2008, 12:23:08 AM
Newer, high-current, flashlights just don't work well with alkalines at their highest output.  Alkalines are just not designed for high-current applications.  The maximum mode will burn out a set of alkaline batteries in a very short time (15-30 minutes), so, for long runtimes, you're stuck with using the "low" mode, which doesn't have much light output.  A light like the L2D will allow you to use medium-current levels (30 lumens or so) which are much better suited for alkalines and allow a good tradeoff between brightness and runtime.

These L2D runtime plots (runtime vs output) illustrate my point.  Note how poorly alkalines perform at the high current levels.  Note that the runtime of an L2T v2.0 would be similar the the L2D's runtime on "turbo".:

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TURBO


Thanks to Chevofreak at CPF for the runtime plots!
« Last Edit: December 08, 2008, 12:26:01 AM by NutSAK »
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Reply #11 on: December 08, 2008, 12:24:09 AM
Thanks for that, makes perfect sense :)
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Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 12:25:31 AM
Newer, high-current, flashlights just don't work well with alkalines at their highest output.  Alkalines are just not designed for high-current applications.  The maximum mode will burn out a set of alkaline batteries in a very short time (15-30 minutes), so, for long runtimes, you're stuck with using the "low" mode, which doesn't have much light output.  A light like the L2D will allow you to use medium-current levels (30 lumens or so) which are much better suited for alkalines and allow a good tradeoff between brightness and runtime.



That's what I was going to say too. :)
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Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 12:30:34 AM
Thanks for that, makes perfect sense :)

You're welcome!  :tu:

My opinion is that one of the best reasons to carry an AA light vs. CR123 is for a "crisis" situation where you may have be scrounge for batteries.  The most common battery that you'll find in that situation is alkaline.  So, I usually stick to buying models that will allow me more options in that scenario.

As you can see from the plots though, NiMH and Lithium work very well at high current, so if you're not concerned with alkaline use, the L2T V2.0 is a fine choice.
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Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 04:07:25 PM
Bob's "quest" is to normally be very supportive!


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Reply #15 on: December 09, 2008, 02:49:00 AM
Bob's "quest" is to normally be very supportive!
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Nice WD! Although I must admit to always thinking myself more the Race Bannen type.... :D
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Reply #16 on: December 09, 2008, 02:59:08 AM
There is a curious Haji likeness....  ;)
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