Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread

Max Stone · **Reply #690 on:** July 20, 2020, 09:04:42 PM

Quote from: parnass on July 16, 2020, 05:36:59 AM

The Free P4 is my favorite multitool. I enjoy using it, chiefly due to its ease of deployment. My P4 pliers don't have the problem that some other have reported and I am sympathetic with those owners who expected better QC. However, I think much of the other criticism about the P4 is undeserved.

It deserves most of it. Let me know when you master the one hand tool opening, get used to the palm hotspots on the handle ends and find a use for a 1” rule or file. It does not have many fans on this forum.

FreeToCharge · **Reply #691 on:** July 20, 2020, 09:23:14 PM

Quote from: Max Stone on July 20, 2020, 09:04:42 PM

It deserves most of it. Let me know when you master the one hand tool opening, get used to the palm hotspots on the handle ends and find a use for a 1” rule or file. It does not have many fans on this forum.

You may be one if the few who has that many grievances with the tool actually. One hand tool opening is quite easy and did not really take much if any time to get the hang of. Palm hotspots arent a thing, it is just as comfortable as nearly any other leatherman I've used. Holding it differently? I'll give you the ruler is quite laughable but the flat head on that tool works well. The file is small especially in comparison to other Multitools (except maybe the wingman?) But is aggressive and works well when need something quick. I'm sorry you dont feel the same. I feel from an open mind. It is a great tool for what it is and quick, one handed use of everything.

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parnass · **Reply #692 on:** July 20, 2020, 09:36:10 PM

Quote from: Max Stone on July 20, 2020, 09:04:42 PM

It deserves most of it. Let me know when you master the one hand tool opening, get used to the palm hotspots on the handle ends and find a use for a 1” rule or file. It does not have many fans on this forum.

Max, in another topic you posted that you had a Free P2. I have a Free P4 and no problem with hot spots. The P2 and P4 have different frames. The P4 is wider and its frame edges are rolled smoothly along the entire length when using the pliers. The narrower P2 frame has a sharp, non rolled edge on one side of the frame near the pliers head.

Perhaps these differences account for a difference in comfort.

I am left handed and one hand opening tools are usually designed for right handed users. I am able to open the tools with my right hand, but it is awkward.

Max Stone · **Reply #693 on:** July 20, 2020, 10:33:27 PM

Correct, I refer to my P2 and am also left handed. I am not bothered being in a minority. I have plenty of MTs that don’t give me thumb cramps or hurt my palms. And they’re mostly LMs.

kottskrapa · **Reply #694 on:** July 21, 2020, 10:41:26 AM

I was thinking about the ruler.. It's small and redicoulous if you compare it to a "normal" ruler.. But what's the intended purpose? I don't have any of the free tools but I saw some commercials for it when advertising it for when doing mechanical stuff and only have one hand free to operate the tool and if that's the case isn't the ruler long enough to measure a bolt or spacing between stuff in tight areas, or to get a general feel for how big nut you need or something along those lines?

And if so, it's a fairly good size?

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

McStitchy · **Reply #695 on:** July 21, 2020, 02:41:59 PM

Quote from: Max Stone on July 20, 2020, 09:04:42 PM

It deserves most of it. Let me know when you master the one hand tool opening, get used to the palm hotspots on the handle ends and find a use for a 1” rule or file. It does not have many fans on this forum.

I've tried out the P2 and P4 in a local shop (took my time for it). I cannot get used to the one hand opening of the inner tools. For me "personally" there is no advantage coming off that magnet feature

I also dislike the "awl" or the length of the file.

These are not for me.

...oh... and I prefer the old style can/bottle opener

FreeToCharge · **Reply #696 on:** July 21, 2020, 03:24:28 PM

Quote from: kottskrapa on July 21, 2020, 10:41:26 AM

I was thinking about the ruler.. It's small and redicoulous if you compare it to a "normal" ruler.. But what's the intended purpose? I don't have any of the free tools but I saw some commercials for it when advertising it for when doing mechanical stuff and only have one hand free to operate the tool and if that's the case isn't the ruler long enough to measure a bolt or spacing between stuff in tight areas, or to get a general feel for how big nut you need or something along those lines?

And if so, it's a fairly good size?

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

Good point and way of looking at it. I hadn't really considered it that way but in that case the ruler is useful for these types of tasks. After all, multitools really are not meant to take the place of full size, dedicated tools.

McStitchy I'm sorry it doesn't work well for you. No tool is right for everyone. The magnets work really well for me and for my uses to access the tools quickly, easily, and one handed.

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Chako · **Reply #697 on:** August 13, 2020, 03:56:36 AM

I just pulled the trigger on a P4 from Amazon. No local folks selling this, and my collection needs to get the Free clan somewhat representing.

SteveC · **Reply #698 on:** August 13, 2020, 01:36:57 PM

I finally got to handle a P2 at a local sports store. I have to say that I was not impressed at all with it.

FreeToCharge · **Reply #699 on:** August 13, 2020, 06:18:49 PM

Quote from: SteveC on August 13, 2020, 01:36:57 PM

I finally got to handle a P2 at a local sports store. I have to say that I was not impressed at all with it.

Its interesting cause I've heard more negative from the P2 than the P4. Love my P4 for my uses. Has come in handier for quick tasks than my Charge.
Congrats Chako! Hope you like yours.

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Monrogue · **Reply #700 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:37:23 PM

Still loving my P2 and P4. Only other tool I carry is a Wave+, alternating weeks with the P4. The P2 I carry at home. They have be become my favorite multies by far.

Happy Gilmore · **Reply #701 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:47:54 PM

Quote from: SteveC on August 13, 2020, 01:36:57 PM

I finally got to handle a P2 at a local sports store. I have to say that I was not impressed at all with it.

its sad when I can find them right now for $80 and still not interested...all they had to do...all they had to do! Was get independent feedback. No way they handed that tool to someone who actually has a critical viewpoint before production.

Chako · **Reply #702 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:51:15 PM

$140 Canadian here for a P2.

FreeToCharge · **Reply #703 on:** August 18, 2020, 03:03:58 AM

Quote from: Maxlvledc on August 17, 2020, 09:47:54 PM

its sad when I can find them right now for $80 and still not interested...all they had to do...all they had to do! Was get independent feedback. No way they handed that tool to someone who actually has a critical viewpoint before production.

What exactly is your issues with the tool? I love mine and has worked well for almost everything I've thrown at it and I do a range of different things through my day which I use it for.

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