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Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed

fr Offline Ptisuisse

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Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
on: June 07, 2019, 06:50:24 PM
And I thought I was buying just another Solo on the local classifieds...........

Much to my surprise, it is some sorte of a rather well-made clone.
Tang stamp is a bit off on the left side. Color just a bit on the pinky side.
Quality is good, not to Victorinox standards but well above the chinese gakalikes

First time I see one. Nothing on Google.
Has anybody out there seen something like this before ?
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nl Offline glenfiddich1983

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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #1 on: June 07, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
And I thought I was buying just another Solo on the local classifieds...........

Much to my surprise, it is some sorte of a rather well-made clone.
Tang stamp is a bit off on the left side. Color just a bit on the pinky side.
Quality is good, not to Victorinox standards but well above the chinese gakalikes

First time I see one. Nothing on Google.
Has anybody out there seen something like this before ?

Huh?  :sa:

What the heck?  :dunno:
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fr Offline Ptisuisse

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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #2 on: June 07, 2019, 07:00:57 PM
Huh?  :sa:

What the heck?  :dunno:
You want it ? No serious collection should be without it !
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #3 on: June 07, 2019, 07:08:35 PM
You want it ? No serious collection should be without it !

 :rofl:

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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #4 on: June 07, 2019, 07:31:34 PM
What in tarnation?!


us Offline gerleatherberman

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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #5 on: June 07, 2019, 09:30:50 PM
Seems legit. :P

That is that genuine Wustarimex. Victorinox Safari is the clone. :whistle:
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #6 on: June 07, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
Did someone say WURSTarimex?



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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #7 on: June 08, 2019, 09:23:12 AM
C'mon guys !

jokes sure are fun, but beyond the smiles, any serious input on this one ? no one seems to know anything about it ?
are we on the number one swiss knife forum or are we not ?
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #8 on: June 08, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
Could it be that it was made by Wüsthoff?
And that they changed the name stamp for this one to Wustarimex to mimic Vic's name a bit?

Just brainstorming here...


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #9 on: June 08, 2019, 11:36:27 AM
Could it be that it was made by Wüsthoff?
And that they changed the name stamp for this one to Wustarimex to mimic Vic's name a bit?

Just brainstorming here...
actually, I was waiting for your input.
yours is a very interesting suggestion. thanks.
what beats me is that there is absolutely nothing on Google.
a real challenge to our swiss knife gurus out there
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #10 on: June 08, 2019, 11:38:20 AM
:hatsoff:

I might try to dig deeper into the subject today.
Whatever the case, my curiosity is tickled...


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #11 on: June 08, 2019, 11:56:37 AM
Also, try different search engines.
Google gets payed by companies and use the amount of hits to put certain pages up high.

If you search "swiss knife brands" on Google, it'll show only Victorinox related pages to begin with.
Yahoo and duckduckgo might give completely different results.


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #12 on: June 08, 2019, 01:17:03 PM
Also, try different search engines.
Google gets payed by companies and use the amount of hits to put certain pages up high.

If you search "swiss knife brands" on Google, it'll show only Victorinox related pages to begin with.
Yahoo and duckduckgo might give completely different results.
Genau !   I tried Qwant with no results. Nothing more on the two you suggested. Amazing. Quite a challenge. I like being the "inventor" of a new brand.
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #13 on: June 08, 2019, 01:35:05 PM
Well it's worth having in the collection simply for being such an unknown, unseen and therefore intriguing knife.

Don't feel bummed because it's not a genuine Vic after all. It might even be way more rare! Check that, it IS way more rare :tu:

I can't seem to find anything either.
It might be worthwhile to email Wusthof?
They do offer a folding knife in their current line-up, so it's not like they have nothing like it in their offerings.
Even if it turns out they have no info, you'll know that you shouldn't be searching in that direction either.


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #14 on: June 08, 2019, 01:37:29 PM
Well it's worth having in the collection simply for being such an unknown, unseen and therefore intriguing knife.

Don't feel bummed because it's not a genuine Vic after all. It might even be way more rare! Check that, it IS way more rare :tu:

I can't seem to find anything either.
It might be worthwhile to email Wusthof?
They do offer a folding knife in their current line-up, so it's not like they have nothing like it in their offerings.
Even if it turns out they have no info, you'll know that you shouldn't be searching in that direction either.
I don't feel bummed or conned at all.==au contraire== Best thing in my 108 collector life since my Bowie-bladed Solo !
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #15 on: June 08, 2019, 01:40:05 PM
:drool:

I recently discovered that the Mauser knife was also offered by a company named "Brookstone"

Might be interesting to see one of those pop up for sale one day...

Oh, and it has Vic bladestamps! :ahhh



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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #16 on: June 08, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
Let us not stray too far away from the original subject of this post : call to the knife-collecting community for help on an unidentified cutting object.
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #17 on: June 08, 2019, 01:55:45 PM
Got this one recently. From Herbertz, but with "blind medalion" scales and a laser etching on the blade.
But let us stay on the Watchamacallit !
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #18 on: June 08, 2019, 02:46:25 PM
I think this will require the services of one of our Swiss members who attends the markets regularly.  I suggest we recruit @jaydar. 


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #19 on: June 08, 2019, 08:33:19 PM
And I thought I was buying just another Solo on the local classifieds...........

Much to my surprise, it is some sorte of a rather well-made clone.
Tang stamp is a bit off on the left side. Color just a bit on the pinky side.
Quality is good, not to Victorinox standards but well above the chinese gakalikes

First time I see one. Nothing on Google.
Has anybody out there seen something like this before ?

Can you contact the person you got it from to find out what they know about it or where they got it from?


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #20 on: June 08, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
Can you contact the person you got it from to find out what they know about it or where they got it from?
Good idea. I thought about doing that, but I got the knife from the classifieds, and I have neither mail nor phone, just the return address on the parcel. It will take some time.
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #21 on: June 08, 2019, 10:57:43 PM
I've never seen that brand name before. How is the quality?   :dunno:


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #22 on: June 09, 2019, 10:08:18 AM
I don't feel bummed or conned at all.==au contraire== Best thing in my 108 collector life since my Bowie-bladed Solo !

 :drool: :drool:
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #23 on: June 09, 2019, 10:34:03 AM
I've never seen that brand name before. How is the quality?   :dunno:
Alan, just read the top of my post :
"Much to my surprise, it is some sort of a rather well-made clone.
Tang stamp is a bit off on the left side. Color just a bit on the pinky side.
Quality is good, not to Victorinox standards but well above the chinese gakalikes"

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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #24 on: June 09, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
:drool: :drool:
I have another Bowie Solo on the way. Depends how much money you can put on it (ROTFL)  :rofl:
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #25 on: June 09, 2019, 10:39:32 AM
Couldn't find any hint. Ended up with the same results as Nick. Maybe a Wüsthoff  :salute:

I could sent you Chewie to secure the imposter Solo...  :dunno:
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #26 on: June 09, 2019, 10:58:12 AM
I have another Bowie Solo on the way. Depends how much money you can put on it (ROTFL)  :rofl:

Where do you find those? If you're willing to sell it, please let me know :)

Or are those mods?
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #27 on: June 14, 2019, 08:37:35 AM
More info on the Unidentified Cutting Object, AKA Wustarimex :
The seller reports he bought it in a cutlery shop in Osaka, Japan, in the late eighties/early seventies.

There used to be a time when our friends the japanese would copy lots of US and European productions,
like photographic, electronic equipment, tin toys, you name it, and then, improve upon them.

But somehow this theory does not hold long, copying took place more in the sixties and seventies. And there is this stamping on the blade "Swiss Made". Any input I would appreciate.
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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #28 on: June 14, 2019, 12:24:46 PM
Japan was once like China is today.

The "Swiss made" might be stamped but that doesn't make it true.
I have a "Rolex" that reads "Swiss Made" too... But I'm fairly certain it's not made there :rofl:

Anyway, the info provided by the seller is a good start. Sadly, I think there are next to no Japanese members here who might be able to help out.

EDIT: Also keep in mind that the knife may have been in the store for a long time before someone bought it.


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Re: Weird Safari Solo 108 clone - Help needed
Reply #29 on: June 14, 2019, 12:43:23 PM
What's interesting is they used the "Swiss Made" stamp decades before the real deal (Victorinox) did.


 

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