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Question about Victorinox ECO knives. 4110

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 13,385 Sing, Michael, sing. On the route of the 19 Bus!
Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« on: December 24, 2008, 02:53:30 AM »
To cut a long story short, I've been experimenting with making my own wooden scales, and I think I'm nearly there.

I'm looking therefore for nice (preferably new) SAKs to put them on, or to butcher to create my own combinations, and it doesn't seem worth paying a premium price for scales that I intend to rip straight off! So my question is, the ECO range, is it just the scales that are "cheaper", or are there other differences in the knives. Specifically, are the tools inferior in any way?

Many thanks.



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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2008, 03:22:06 AM »
 Rest assured the Eco line are not seconds, just a less expensive scale with a hot stamped shield.

Chris
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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2008, 03:28:01 AM »
I've heard that the QC isn't as tight but that hasn't been my experience.  Get the Eco you won't have a problem.

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 13,385 Sing, Michael, sing. On the route of the 19 Bus!
Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2008, 03:41:00 AM »
Thanks guys, that's what I thought.

I did actually buy one a few months ago, and broke it up as a good quality donor knife for a custom SAK, and I couldn't notice a difference, but wasn't sure if there was a lesser quality steel used or something.

I'm in the latter stages of putting together my latest hair-brained scheme (it's a Christmas present for my Dad, so it'll be finished tomorrow come hell or high water!), then I'll post up some pics and see what you think.

Cheers!

Chief of the Absolutely No Life Club! Abandon all hope ye who enter here... Posts: 43,126 Why haven't you got a Farmer yet!
Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2008, 08:09:05 AM »
Looking forward to the pictures mate :tu:

Give in, buy several Farmer's!!!!!!
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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2008, 09:02:31 AM »
Yay Eco Knives!


I don't know of any reason why an Econoline SAK wouldn't be perfect for modder fodder.
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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2008, 12:50:21 PM »
I love my Vic eco! Besides being cheaper, it is scratchproof!
Head Turd Polisher Administrator He who has the most nuts, wins! Posts: 57,440 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2008, 02:06:27 PM »
I've heard that the QC isn't as tight but that hasn't been my experience.  Get the Eco you won't have a problem.

Yes, no, maybe and sideways.... :D

The quality control as far as the mechanics or functionality of the knife are just as high on the Eco line, it's cosmetic issues that make a SAK an Eco.  Of course, that doesn't mean that they are damaged, or even seconds, it just means that they don't go through the same rigorous polishing that the regular line goes through.  Less time spend polishing every blade on a SAK means less money into it, meaning you spend less on it.

The blades and other implements though are from exactly the same bins and stock as every other blade, pin, liner etc, so no fear of there being anything wrong with your knife.

Amusingly enough, even Victorinox can't tell the difference- if you strip the Eco scales off your knife and send it in for warranty work, it will come back with cellidor scales on it!  :D

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 02:22:45 PM »
Truth be told, I like ECO scales better than cellidor.. They are far more scratch resistant and they wear better.. BTW, does the 111mm knives have ECO scales? I've got a few of them, and I can't tell!

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 04:00:23 PM »
They aren't Eco scales per se....  Victorinox doesn't refer to them as Eco (short for Economy).  They just call them what they are- textured nylon.  The textured nylon is also what they use on the 111mm series, and since they don't make a cellidor 111mm model there was no point in giving them a special name to distinguish them like there was with 91 and 84mm knives.

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2008, 04:05:52 PM »
I've heard that the QC isn't as tight but that hasn't been my experience.  Get the Eco you won't have a problem.

Yes, no, maybe and sideways.... :D

The quality control as far as the mechanics or functionality of the knife are just as high on the Eco line, it's cosmetic issues that make a SAK an Eco.  Of course, that doesn't mean that they are damaged, or even seconds, it just means that they don't go through the same rigorous polishing that the regular line goes through.  Less time spend polishing every blade on a SAK means less money into it, meaning you spend less on it.

The blades and other implements though are from exactly the same bins and stock as every other blade, pin, liner etc, so no fear of there being anything wrong with your knife.

Amusingly enough, even Victorinox can't tell the difference- if you strip the Eco scales off your knife and send it in for warranty work, it will come back with cellidor scales on it!  :D

Def

Thanks for clearing that up Def.  :salute:

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2008, 04:19:50 PM »
No problem... I like questions without clear answers so I can spout all kinds of weird gibberish and people think I know what I'm talking about!  :D

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2008, 05:09:14 PM »
Thanks Def!

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 04:04:22 AM »
I was just offered a used Spartan with a good price. I was about to buy it when I noticed it had a nylon scale. I'm okay with nylon EXCEPT for the fact that the logo fades away. Tsk, tsk
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,331
Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 03:26:29 PM »
I was just offered a used Spartan with a good price. I was about to buy it when I noticed it had a nylon scale. I'm okay with nylon EXCEPT for the fact that the logo fades away. Tsk, tsk

I know, I'd love for Plus Nylon scales with an inset shield, like that of the cellidor scales.
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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2017, 03:29:14 PM »
I was just offered a used Spartan with a good price. I was about to buy it when I noticed it had a nylon scale. I'm okay with nylon EXCEPT for the fact that the logo fades away. Tsk, tsk

I know, I'd love for Plus Nylon scales with an inset shield, like that of the cellidor scales.
Exactly. We can only wish
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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2017, 02:54:48 AM »
One other question about the Eco line scales that I will piggyback on this thread. They don't have the slot for the straight pin that the Celidor scales have, correct?

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2017, 03:53:19 AM »
One other question about the Eco line scales that I will piggyback on this thread. They don't have the slot for the straight pin that the Celidor scales have, correct?


I'm curious to know also. I did a quick image search but can't find any close up pics. I hope others will reply.

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,331
Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2017, 11:42:45 PM »
One other question about the Eco line scales that I will piggyback on this thread. They don't have the slot for the straight pin that the Celidor scales have, correct?


I'm curious to know also. I did a quick image search but can't find any close up pics. I hope others will reply.

From memory, no, they do not have the pin slot.
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Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2017, 12:46:18 AM »
Looking at my Ecoline Climber...there is no hole for the straight pin...
Hmmm, full disclosure: mine has the older 4-line tang stamp. IDK if that matters.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2017, 12:51:55 AM by aluminated »
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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2017, 02:21:17 AM »
It does not.  And they stopped making these a while back, right? Like 2012?

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Re: Question about Victorinox ECO knives.
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2017, 02:35:06 AM »
It does not.  And they stopped making these a while back, right? Like 2012?
Not sure. Mine looks like it was made yesterday, as do almost all of my SAKs and MTs.

 

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