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Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
on: January 23, 2020, 01:12:47 AM

Today I had a great chat with SOG founder Spencer Fraser, and members of his team. Spencer is retiring and we wished him the best on behalf of the fine folks here at MTO.

But what's going on with SOG? We all know that SOG has produced some really interesting designs over the years. Their compound leverage tech for multitools is effective too. But as you can see through the threads on our forum, the quality has not always been up to par. My conversation with SOG leads me to believe that they're listening. They're changing up what they're doing and they'll be moving away from lower end retailers like Wal-Mart, and Amazon, meaning they won't be catering to that price point market.

I was happy to hear that they've been reading threads here on our forum. They heard how annoyed MTO members were with the giant flashy SOG logos on all of their products, and the concerns over material and workmanship.

They're currently in the middle of a re-brand and they say they're going back to their founding roots. They're moving away from “SOG” and going back to “Studies and Observations Group”.

Their newest multitool was designed prior to the changes and re-brand. I will admit that I am not sure it will be one of my favourites, however I am really into their new knife line up. They feel very good in the hand, and the quality to me matches the clever design.

I'll be posting more about the knives when I have a moment later, but I wanted to share something with you ahead of time. I had an opportunity to see where Studies and Observations Group is headed for 2021 and I am pumped. It looks like for the first time in a long while, we might have a unique plier-based multi tool. I viewed some early designs which I wasn't permitted to take photos of, or describe. But I will say that we have something to look forward to in 2021. And I think SOG will be one to watch. SOG has always been good to us at MTO, and our fingers are crossed that their new multis are what we're hoping for!
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #1 on: January 23, 2020, 01:36:33 AM
Always wondered what SOG means... Looking forward to what they have in store for next year... :popcorn:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #2 on: January 23, 2020, 03:28:13 AM
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2020, 04:03:04 AM
I didn’t know what SOG meant either - nice to know!  :like: :cheers:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #4 on: January 23, 2020, 04:15:01 AM
I don‘t own any SOGs yet, but what you are describing sounds interesting. Will be watching!  :popcorn:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 04:17:03 AM
Well thank goodness for this news! Hopefully itll be a solid feeling, beefy tool. Enough flimsy and flashy already.
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Reply #6 on: January 23, 2020, 04:45:20 AM
I sure hope we start seeing some Seki-made blades (and tools) again. The Tomcat is one heck of a blade, but those are a bit hard to get, even harder if you don't want one that's a trainwreck and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

My main SOG users are old--MicroToolclip from the 1990s (which is typical Seki quality, and rivals, if not surpasses, my SAKs--same with its big brother) and an early  Pocket Power Plier I've modified slightly by swapping the PE blade for an SE (for a long time, it had PE and SE blades, with no file).  Speaking of files, I sure hope we see a rather aggressive one.

Usually, we hear of the opposite. Once well respected companies that basically just produce low-end garbage. Look at the junk being produced by Smith and Wesson/BTI/Taylor (who bought Schrade's trademarks in 2004) and Acme (Camillus/Clauss). Instead, they're making a move back to what they got started with--quality blades.
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 10:37:44 AM
I hope they move away from assisted opening in their knives... especially the ones with the XR lock, love my Terminus XR. The new Flash/Aegis look really great but for me, assisted is a deal breaker.
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 10:44:26 AM
Its great to hear they are getting back to their roots.  Their build quality has seemed a little flimsy the last year or two so hopefully they return with some quality tools.
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 12:32:12 PM
 :iagree: and glad to hear about this from SOG ( I am still gonna write it instead of the other older name they are gonna be going by again and do realize it would have been quicker to write it out now instead :facepalm: :D )

Great write up, Megan and awesome you got to meet the founder :o :like:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #10 on: January 23, 2020, 01:40:21 PM
Fantastic news, but it is only January. :(
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #11 on: January 23, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
Happy retirement Spencer Fraser  :salute:. 
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Reply #12 on: January 23, 2020, 03:33:52 PM
Hope to see some quality multitools  :popcorn:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #13 on: January 23, 2020, 03:46:02 PM
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #14 on: January 24, 2020, 03:11:26 AM
   Would love to see them move more of their manufacturing back to the US!  :salute: :tu:

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Reply #15 on: January 24, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: mikekoz on January 24, 2020, 03:11:26 AM
   Would love to see them move more of their manufacturing back to the US!  :salute: :tu:

Where ever they decide to manufacture, I just want the quality to get to where it needs to be. USA made stuff is cool, but I have several folders made with great materials that are solid and they were made in China.

I think SOG just let their quiver get too full. They had SO MANY different models. I think they should focus on a handful of models, execute them well instead of releasing so many new models every year. SOG got a ton of press the last few years at SHOT bc of the sheer amount of new models. Then we got them in hand and realized it was all smurfe. That one year the Batons came out was ridiculous - so many new SOG multis that year.
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #16 on: January 25, 2020, 01:41:37 AM
I am super excited. I've long felt that SOG's designs and concepts were cleverer than the competition, but i'm always let down by the execution. Very interested in this rebrand :woohoo:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #17 on: January 26, 2020, 12:49:27 AM
  Funny thing about SOG to me is, I like most of their current designs better than the older ones. I could never get into the covers over the tools. However, the newer tools seems to have been made out of inferior and lighter steel. The older ones feel like they would hold up a lot better. I have no way of actually proving that, but after you handle so many multitools, one can sometimes get an idea of how well one is made, even before using it. :dunno:

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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #18 on: January 27, 2020, 10:54:00 PM
I have always been a SOG fan(atic!). I have a Tomcat and numerous other folders, as well as several fixed blades. I have always gone high end so I haven't experienced the problems noted. My latest are the Seal XR and the new PowerAccess Deluxe. Love em, love em, love em.

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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #19 on: January 27, 2020, 11:33:30 PM
It will be interesting to see what the rebrand brings us  :like:
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #20 on: January 29, 2020, 10:09:37 PM
 If they're going to make multitools they have to invest in the tools. The knives have always been decent or great it's the tools that are seriously lacking. To go from using a Victorinox or Leatherman to a SOG, I definitely feel like I'm using something inferior, which is a shame because they have interesting ideas and formats.
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #21 on: February 02, 2020, 06:05:06 AM
I recall around 1986, SOG was a top-notch, tactical knife-company with real, innovative designs.  One need only look at the Tomcat, Tigershark, and Trident to understand this.  Somewhere, along-the-way, they became a parody of themselves.  But had a few high-lights along the way, with some of their "multis".  Especially, the Paladin 6510 PT-525 collaboration for dedicated telephone/IT work.  People still want to purchase mine.  I would advise SOG that; this is still an 'untapped' market, and a potential gold mine.  I'm for them returning to their 'roots', and would rather purchase a more expensive quality-item.   
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Re: Upcoming rebrand & quality improvements ahead (One to watch for 2021)
Reply #22 on: February 14, 2020, 01:50:41 PM
Talk is cheap.  Let's wait and see.

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