Scissors not in line with the times, why?

[xfile]

This  scissors is obviously out of date with other tools，and I don't know the model of the SAK,but it's definitely not a later modification,I'm a little confused.

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Compared with the champion in '73

[jimylee]

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[cody6268]

In my opinion, that's a Fisherman that has been repaired by warranty at some point much later in its lifetime. I have an 84mm Craftsman of about that same vintage, that someone had the right idea to repair the scissors, but did it all wrong (crudely sticking a piece of brass where the screw goes), so I sent it off to Victorinox about two years ago and got '80s scissors and an '80s main blade.

[enki_ck]

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Very nice to see you joining the forum and discussions here on MTO, jimylee

Welcome to the forum.

I hope we get to see some of your by now great collection I believe.

[comis]

In my opinion, that's a Fisherman that has been repaired by warranty at some point much later in its lifetime. I have an 84mm Craftsman of about that same vintage, that someone had the right idea to repair the scissors, but did it all wrong (crudely sticking a piece of brass where the screw goes), so I sent it off to Victorinox about two years ago and got '80s scissors and an '80s main blade.

Cody beats me to it, I think that's true.  Not many cutlery company offers life time warranty while in business for more than a hundred years nowadays, and if the certain parts did run out, they very well would replace it with a tool from another era.

[jazzbass]

In my opinion, that's a Fisherman that has been repaired by warranty at some point much later in its lifetime

This was my first thought and is a very strong possibility as well. 50 years ago these knives were relatively expensive and the case for a warranty repair is high. This is a pretty easy repair, too - pull the tail pin out, replace scissors, reinsert new pin.

This  scissors is obviously out of date with other tools%uFF0Cand I don't know the model of the SAK,but it's definitely not a later modification,I'm a little confused.

That said, there's a very good chance this is an unmodified knife. The scissors aren't really out of date here - I've seen lots of knives from the late 1960s/early 70s that have the older features (bail, +PAT, double bevel scaler) and the newer, deep cut scissors. A quick look in my collection shows three Champion LNF (two are NIB) with this same tool combination. This whole period from c 1969 - 1974 really is almost a free-for-all. Tons of different combinations as tools are phased in and out, changes made, etc. There is a TON of overlap here, and there are many, many tool combinations.

Champions from my collection:

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[kamakiri]

Looks normal to me.

Maybe ‘70. More pics of all the tools would be nice.

[xfile]

In my opinion, that's a Fisherman that has been repaired by warranty at some point much later in its lifetime. I have an 84mm Craftsman of about that same vintage, that someone had the right idea to repair the scissors, but did it all wrong (crudely sticking a piece of brass where the screw goes), so I sent it off to Victorinox about two years ago and got '80s scissors and an '80s main blade.

Thank you! This is an old fisherman,but I don't understand the reason for repairing it. every tool is so new.

[xfile]

This was my first thought and is a very strong possibility as well. 50 years ago these knives were relatively expensive and the case for a warranty repair is high. This is a pretty easy repair, too - pull the tail pin out, replace scissors, reinsert new pin.

That said, there's a very good chance this is an unmodified knife. The scissors aren't really out of date here - I've seen lots of knives from the late 1960s/early 70s that have the older features (bail, +PAT, double bevel scaler) and the newer, deep cut scissors. A quick look in my collection shows three Champion LNF (two are NIB) with this same tool combination. This whole period from c 1969 - 1974 really is almost a free-for-all. Tons of different combinations as tools are phased in and out, changes made, etc. There is a TON of overlap here, and there are many, many tool combinations.

Champions from my collection:

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Sorry I can't see your picture,your explanation makes me more sure that this knife is not repaired.So bail and square Philips have been used for about 74 years?When was the first year of the new scissors？

[kamakiri]

This one is clearly 1970. A 136maU Master Craftsman.

Hope that helps.

[xfile]

This one is clearly 1970. A 136maU Master Craftsman.

Hope that helps.

fantastic!

[kamakiri]

Can’t say this one was repaired! 

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Can’t say this one was repaired! 

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[kamakiri]

Sadly, not mine.

Seller listed for $75

I offer $26

Seller counters $60 ‘absolute minimum’

I counter $27.5

Seller declines.

Seller lowers price to $49.

Seller goes to bid...$0.99

I decide to watch only. 

Item sells at auction $22.50.

Sigh.