Wish they still made Alox like this ?

[Swisster]

back before people were chasing colors on inferior knives. They don't make them today, like they once were. Early 80's Cadet II, Late 70's Electrician and a 66 Soldier. Only old Alox for me or no Alox at all.   

[AzteCypher]

 

[MrToolJunkie]

Very nice! Amazing how well these scales hold up over time.

[koke]

I agree, it’s a pity. Discontinued alox model are much cooler than new ones.

Down to up: Apprentice, Pruner, Woodsman, Harvester and Pioneer

Still looking for a NiB settler and rancher.

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

That’s a cracking set of OCs, Koke! 

[Brock O Lee]

back before people were chasing colors on inferior knives. They don't make them today, like they once were. Early 80's Cadet II, Late 70's Electrician and a 66 Soldier. Only old Alox for me or no Alox at all.   

Pardon my ignorance @Swisster, but what is different about the new alox that makes it less worthy? Don't get me wrong, I love the old cross alox's, but because of the old school cross emblem, not because I see something different with the actual alox scales. Or has it more to do with the tool layout of some of the old discontinued models?

Impressive lineup @koke! 

[Enginears]

  Yes I do wish they still made Alox like those.

[Simon_Templar]

back before people were chasing colors on inferior knives.

What's wrong with coloured SAKs and why are current Alox models inferior? That statement sounds pretty presumptuous to me.

Cheers,

Simon

[gustophersmob]

I’m guessing the “superior” aspect may be referring to the slightly thicker, unpolished tools.

Personally, I do love the aesthetic of red old cross alox and it is a favorite. As far as other differences, the only one that matters to me, is the sharpened inside edge of the cap lifter. Wish they would have kept that.

I actually don’t love the unpolished tools, I find they typically have quite sharp edges on the nail nicks which makes it less comfortable to open. I do think the polish the driver tips too much on the new ones, but 10 seconds of work on a stone solves that.

Newer knives have a better steel formulation and heat treat so, in general, back springs will be less likely to break and knives have a slightly higher Rockwell hardness. I don’t think it’s much of an issue with the older ones, but not all the changes are necessarily bad.

One change I do not like is the thinner blade stock on the cadet and the use of a washer to compensate. Idk if it is functionally worse, but it is an eyesore.

[marlowe221]

I would be interested in some additional alox versions of some of the Cellidor models.

An alox Explorer or Deluxe Tinker (minus the back tools, of course)? Yes, please!

[nate j]

I would be interested in some additional alox versions of some of the Cellidor models.

An alox Explorer or Deluxe Tinker (minus the back tools, of course)? Yes, please!

You can always get aftermarket metal scales for the cellidor models, like this Ti-scaled Huntsman…

[Barry Rowland]

I have a '67 Soldier and I agree 💯.  For a 57 year old knife it's still gorgeous and locks up tighter than anything else I have.

[Brock O Lee]

I’m guessing the “superior” aspect may be referring to the slightly thicker, unpolished tools.

Personally, I do love the aesthetic of red old cross alox and it is a favorite. As far as other differences, the only one that matters to me, is the sharpened inside edge of the cap lifter. Wish they would have kept that.

Thanks for the education. 

I have one old cross Farmer that I bought new in 1997. The tools look exactly the same as all my other Pioneers, so I always assumed the old crosses were very similar to the modern ones. I never paid much attention to the pre-1984 Pioneers to realise that the tools were thicker or unpolished.

[Black sunshine]

back before people were chasing colors on inferior knives. They don't make them today, like they once were. Early 80's Cadet II, Late 70's Electrician and a 66 Soldier. Only old Alox for me or no Alox at all.   

Red is worth chasing.

[Farmer X]

  That red ribbed Cadet (I think) is just...

[Rizio Il Ghiro]

   too - just love those old red scales, but those are in great condition!

[Swisster]

the old red Alox is ridiculously over priced for just being red. The prices are not warranted for just being red and being red shouldn't make it 2 or 3 times the price of old silver stuff. It's a scam to hustle collector's who don't have old red Alox and has been propagated to a high degree. It's almost as bad as the scamming with Swiss Bianco Alox stuff. Colors don't warrant  a knife being 2 to 5 times the price of a silver knife because of gullible buyers who buy into hype of coloring. It's an immature childish game people get sucked into because of colors. Victorinox has been playing upon this as well for over a decade with color scam game with new limited edition Alox.

[Black sunshine]

That red ribbed Cadet (I think) is just...

Thank you. I was very happy to find it!

  too - just love those old red scales, but those are in great condition!

Thank you. It did take time to find in such condition.

the old red Alox is ridiculously over priced for just being red. The prices are not warranted for just being red and being red shouldn't make it 2 or 3 times the price of old silver stuff. It's a scam to hustle collector's who don't have old red Alox and has been propagated to a high degree. It's almost as bad as the scamming with Swiss Bianco Alox stuff. Colors don't warrant  a knife being 2 to 5 times the price of a silver knife because of gullible buyers who buy into hype of coloring. It's an immature childish game people get sucked into because of colors. Victorinox has been playing upon this as well for over a decade with color scam game with new limited edition Alox.

Perhaps I should not have shared? I did not pay so much for these. The soldier is 1962 and only available in red.  I  purchased because of conditions.

[nate j]

the old red Alox is ridiculously over priced for just being red. The prices are not warranted for just being red and being red shouldn't make it 2 or 3 times the price of old silver stuff. It's a scam to hustle collector's who don't have old red Alox and has been propagated to a high degree. It's almost as bad as the scamming with Swiss Bianco Alox stuff. Colors don't warrant  a knife being 2 to 5 times the price of a silver knife because of gullible buyers who buy into hype of coloring. It's an immature childish game people get sucked into because of colors. Victorinox has been playing upon this as well for over a decade with color scam game with new limited edition Alox.

Merriam-Webster defines a scam as “a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation”.

AFAIK, no one selling colored alox has claimed it is in any way different from regular silver alox, except for the color.  Also, AFAIK, no buyers have purchased colored alox believing it is any different from regular silver alox, except for the color.  So, you may not like red and or limited edition colors being priced higher, but it does not meet the definition of a scam.

Personally, the odds of me paying more for a specific color when I could get the identical item in a different color for less money are pretty slim.  The odds of me purchasing more than a couple of versions of the same item just because they are different colors is likewise pretty slim. 

However, everyone should do whatever makes them happy.

[Farmer X]

 

[Sawl Goodman]

I have a couple of red OC Pioneers, got for good prices but sadly both are unused or I'd carry one. One came in its box & the other in a period correct pouch. I love the understated logo & plain back with no engraving panel.