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american lockpicker · **on:** March 14, 2009, 03:03:26 AM

http://www.zweibrueder.com/ENG/produkte/html_classicline/html_arbeitslampen/v12.php?id=v12 I'm considering getting one of these as I want a flashlight than uses N batteries. Does anyone here have any experience with this brand?

jock1 · **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2009, 03:19:05 AM

No direct experience a lot of my colleagues use them and I have had a shot now and again .They appear very well made and I have never heard any complaints about them from the owners the runtime given by the makers is until every last drop of juice is gone useable light time will be a lot shorter
Hope this helps

american lockpicker · **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2009, 03:20:20 AM

I found one for $10 so I really can't go wrong.

Crouton · **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2009, 06:29:26 PM

I have this one http://www.zweibrueder.com/ENG/produkte/html_classicline/html_profilampen/vquadrat.php?id=vquadrat

It's a great flashlight and well made. Lowes hardware store carries this brand in my part of the US.

I've had mine for over two years with no quality issues.

Mike · **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2009, 06:48:46 PM

If you don't get enough information here, a good place for information might be CandlePowerForums:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/

Mike

american lockpicker · **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2009, 12:54:15 AM

Well I ordered it if I don't like it I can always give it away.

Mike · **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2009, 01:08:58 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on March 17, 2009, 12:54:15 AM

Well I ordered it if I don't like it I can always give it away.

That's the spirit!

Mike

american lockpicker · **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2009, 05:27:15 PM

I got it today. I don't like that its made in China but it seems like a good flashlight.

DaveK · **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2009, 08:51:32 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on March 19, 2009, 05:27:15 PM

I got it today. I don't like that its made in China but it seems like a good flashlight.

If it's good, does it matter where it's from?

american lockpicker · **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2009, 08:56:14 PM

Yes it does.

DaveK · **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2009, 08:58:47 PM

Oooookay then.

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:50:31 AM

Quality is quality no matter where it comes from.There was a time early in the Industrial Revolution when Europe looked down on US made goods as cheap copycat knock-offs.I can't help but recall how Western navies in the '20s and '30s looked down on the Imperial Japanese Navy,as inferior and it's ship construction as somewhat second rate.December 1941 revised that opinion.

Tinnie · **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:55:35 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on March 19, 2009, 05:27:15 PM

I got it today. I don't like that its made in China but it seems like a good flashlight.

Doesn't really matter where it comes from for me...

Lot of great stuff comes from China like Fenix, Nitecore and even Maxpedition which is from Taiwan

Leatherman123 · **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:57:50 AM

I agree, China is very capable of making quality products.. I understand that you want to support American manufacturing; but you really need to consider the fact the China can make quality products.. I bet one could find at least 100 things in your house that were made in China!

Benner · **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:02:59 AM

Quote from: Leatherman123 on March 20, 2009, 12:57:50 AM

I agree, China is very capable of making quality products.. I understand that you want to support American manufacturing; but you really need to consider the fact the China can make quality products.. I bet one could find at least 100 things in your house that were made in China!

And I bet quite a few of those are enabling you to see this forum.

DaveK · **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:08:36 AM

Quote from: Bison56 on March 20, 2009, 12:50:31 AM

There was a time early in the Industrial Revolution when Europe looked down on US made goods as cheap copycat knock-offs.

I would never have brought this up if an American hadn't first, and I don't believe it generally to be the case myself I hasten to add, but this view is still commonly held in Europe. I think it's maybe just a nationalistic thing where everyone thinks their country makes the best stuff. One things for sure, they can't all be right

In the UK, we are very used to imported goods, and for the last 30 years or more our "speciality industry" has been finance, but away from tools that we discuss on here, I can't think of many US manufactured products that would be considered market leaders over here.

I exclude the food / drink brands like McDonalds and Coca cola, but things like electrical equipment, cars etc where you might expect the US giants to be dominant, we don't seem to have.

I guess what I'm trying to say in a roundabout way, is that "Made in the USA" would not generally be considered to guarantee better quality, here in the UK.

american lockpicker · **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:18:43 AM

Quote from: Leatherman123 on March 20, 2009, 12:57:50 AM

I agree, China is very capable of making quality products.. I understand that you want to support American manufacturing; but you really need to consider the fact the China can make quality products.. I bet one could find at least 100 things in your house that were made in China!

I know China can make good products(I once owned a Nitecore, I didn't buy it it was given to me as a gift)but the majority of their stuff is crap. I would rather spend my money to help keep jobs in the North America and Europe than to help the economy of Capitalist China.

prime77 · **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2009, 06:34:46 AM

I'm glad you like your new flashlight AL. And I agree with 100% with what you said here

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I would rather spend my money to help keep jobs in the North America and Europe than to help the economy of Capitalist China.

DaveK · **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:11:11 AM

Oh. Did my post get deleted

I'd appreciate knowing why please guys. Thanks.

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:41:40 PM

Quote from: DaveK on March 20, 2009, 10:11:11 AM

Oh. Did my post get deleted

I'd appreciate knowing why please guys. Thanks.

No,I don't see anything that's been deleted.

DaveK · **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:46:53 PM

Bugger. Perhaps I forgot to click "Post" then

It was very late ....

Anyway, it was a great post - it mentioned Datsun and everything

Thanks for the reply though - much appreciated

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2009, 02:33:12 PM

Quote from: DaveK on March 20, 2009, 01:46:53 PM

Bugger. Perhaps I forgot to click "Post" then It was very late ....

Anyway, it was a great post - it mentioned Datsun and everything

Thanks for the reply though - much appreciated

No problem. I've composed more than a few superlative posts/emails/whatever and forgot to hit that magic button

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