Having a "Blast" of a time!!!

[LatinoHeat]

So you are back to carrying the Wave, Navajero?

For now.  I quess I will rotate between the Swisstool and the Wave for a while.  I switched to the Swisstool because I kept getting bit by my Wave, but have since decided, I DO love the Wave, and it's my damn fault I've gotten hurt.  So, I have decided, to use a martial arts adage, to master my weapon.... or in this case, my tool.  I am going to figure out how to do the things I need to do without getting hurt.  Others can do it, so why not me, you know?  I'll probably use my Swisstool as well.  I'll rotate.  A good tool is a good tool, and shouldn't be left in a drawer.

[Sea Monster]

kept getting hit by my Wave, but have since decided, I DO love the Wave, and it's my damn fault I've gotten hurt.

Y' sound like an abused wife.

[ringzero]

Very well put Navajero I personally EDC my Blast more because I would rather damage it vs. my Wave which is kinda silly since it's a tool and should be used but I have just gotten use to having it with me @ work I need to start using my Wave more and taking it to work instead I guess

Poncho65, since you own both tools would you offer an opinion on which is tougher?

I don't own either tool, but have used both in the past and both seemed to be fairly robust.  Neither felt as heavy duty as my SOG Powerlock, but both felt robust enough for medium duty to light-heavy duty tasks.

I almost picked up a Blast at Lowes last week, but if the Wave is tougher maybe I should get that.

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[Leatherman123]

I'd go for the Wave. It feels far more heavy duty!

[Poncho65]

I do really like my Blast but I would probably never have gotten it if I had gotten the Wave first

If I had to choose to just keep 1 I would choose the Wave

Like LM123 said it does feel more heavy duty

Hope that helps

[ringzero]

I do really like my Blast but I would probably never have gotten it if I had gotten the Wave first

If I had to choose to just keep 1 I would choose the Wave

Like LM123 said it does feel more heavy duty

Hope that helps

Thanks Poncho65 and LM123.

I was wanting a multi that isn't so heavy and the Blast weighs in at less than 7 ounces.

I'll probably get a Blast and try it out for a while.  If the Blast feels too flimsy in use, then maybe I'll try a Wave - although the Wave is several ounces heavier.

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[max6166]

The weight difference between the two is 1.6 ounces.

[gafftapegreenia]

I own both, and and very fond of both and regularly use both.

It most ways, they are comparable tools. If you already have a knife, no need for the outside access of the Wave. The outside access is nice, depends on how bad you want the feature.

Tool wise, the only difference is that the Wave has a serrated blade.

With the Wave you get the bit changer, and a bit beefier handles. The biggest difference is those handles. When using the pliers in a rolling, twisting motion, the handles on the Blast do have a bit of play, whereas the Wave seem to stay straighter. But then that is using the Blast in a manner I don't necessarily feel a multi was meant to handle on a daily basis. And I am sure, that, over time, both tools would eventually fail if continually used in such a manner. It's a high torque application that would bend even real pliers.

To be honest, I usually end up carrying my Blast, because it is lighter, the plier heads are exactly the same, and I usually have a knife on me as well. I just have a soft spot for the Blast, and at $50, I don't care if I bust it.

On another note, my Wave is developing surface rust. I've had it for about a month, and the Blast for over a year, and have used both in the same jobs.

[EZ822]

I owned a Blast for 3 years. No complaints. I work as a handyman and gave it a good work out over that period. I wound up giving it away to a co-worker about a year ago since I upgraded to a Core. He still has it and it's still going strong. I recommend it.

[LatinoHeat]

OK, so, perhaps I will NOT be carrying my Wave anymore.  Everytime I try to give my Leathermans the benefit of the doubt, they fail me.  I was using my Wave to take apart the door knob to our room, and the bit driver broke.  After all this time of me defending the bit drivers, how they are not so bad, how I torque and torque on them and they've held tough, here one breaks on me.  AND I WASN'T EVEN TORQUING that much.  DAMN.  So, I think I am done with anything called Leatherman.  The tools are more functional then the Vic's, perhaps, but as for durability, this is my THIRD Leatherman to go caput.  A spring broke off the back of my XE6, the lock broke on my Blast, and now the bit driver on my Wave.  I guess from now on, I will sink or swim with my Swisstool.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Tough break mate , are you gonna send this one back as well

But at least you've got a good plan B

[Poncho65]

OK, so, perhaps I will NOT be carrying my Wave anymore.  Everytime I try to give my Leathermans the benefit of the doubt, they fail me.  I was using my Wave to take apart the door knob to our room, and the bit driver broke.  After all this time of me defending the bit drivers, how they are not so bad, how I torque and torque on them and they've held tough, here one breaks on me.  AND I WASN'T EVEN TORQUING that much.  DAMN.  So, I think I am done with anything called Leatherman.  The tools are more functional then the Vic's, perhaps, but as for durability, this is my THIRD Leatherman to go caput.  A spring broke off the back of my XE6, the lock broke on my Blast, and now the bit driver on my Wave.  I guess from now on, I will sink or swim with my Swisstool.

Man  that's a tough break Navajero (no pun intended) I've never had any problems out of any of my tools though I suppose if I had 3 to fail on me then I would be a little miffed myself

[DaveK]

Did you run over a black cat or something Navajero316?

Maybe someone at LM is out to get you

I would recount everything precisely to LM if I were you, they'll obviously replace the broken bit, but when they hear your hard lucj story, maybe they'll send you some freebies. Can't hurt can it?

[Poncho65]

Did you run over a black cat or something Navajero316?

Maybe someone at LM is out to get you

I would recount everything precisely to LM if I were you, they'll obviously replace the broken bit, but when they hear your hard lucj story, maybe they'll send you some freebies. Can't hurt can it?

that sounds like a good plan to me Dave

[LatinoHeat]

I don't know, guys, it kind've just makes me not want anything to do with Leatherman anymore, you know?  I know some have said in the past to send them my tool, and then sell it to someone, but I wouldn't feel right about selling a product I no longer believe in.  Freebies?  Not sure about that either.  I don't want a freebie, I just want a tool I can personally trust, you know?  Not necessarily a knock against Leatherman per say, but as far as my personal experience with them, I am seriously disappointed.  Will I be getting anything else from them?  No.  The only tool of theirs that hasn't broken on me is the Sideclip, which brings me back to my old way of thinking, that the old school Leatherman products were better then their new ones.  The old tools were simple, had fewer parts to break, and were tough as nails.  So maybe I am not done with them yet.  Maybe I'll use the Sideclip and any other "old school" tool I come across, but as far as their new line of tools, I'm going to have to say I am done.  If they ever came out with the Supertool again, I might be on board, but no more new generation Leatherman tools.  Actually, I have the Swisstool.  It's not perfect by any stretch, but seems to be built tough, and should last me for a long time.  I really don't NEED another tool.




but then again, how many of us actually buy tools out of "necessity"?

[NeitherExtreme]

Not necessarily a knock against Leatherman per say, but as far as my personal experience with them, I am seriously disappointed. 

I can understand that... You've had a Juice line, Wave line, and Blast/Fuse line break for you. That's certainly not confidence inspiring. Hopefully if you decide to try any more your luck will be better.

[DaveK]

Tis true - non of them are really necessities!

You may have a point about the old tools having less to go wrong, well in fact its definitely the case isn't it?

Either way, LMs aren't cheap, and if mine kept breaking - I'd get them replaced. Even if you don't intend to use them, you may as well have one in good repair in the drawer - after all you have paid for it!

As for not believing? That's just you being on a downer 'cos you're annoyed atm. It's a Leatherman, they're good tools - you've just had bad luck!

[LatinoHeat]

Tis true - non of them are really necessities!

You may have a point about the old tools having less to go wrong, well in fact its definitely the case isn't it?

Either way, LMs aren't cheap, and if mine kept breaking - I'd get them replaced. Even if you don't intend to use them, you may as well have one in good repair in the drawer - after all you have paid for it!

As for not believing? That's just you being on a downer 'cos you're annoyed atm. It's a Leatherman, they're good tools - you've just had bad luck!

Yeah, I guess you're right, Dave.  The thing is, I am covered in the multitool department with the Swisstool, so why bother.  And yes, I DID by the three damaged leatherman, but at some point, it's better to cut your losses and move on, no?  Yes, Leatherman are still good tools.  I just no longer trust them.

[DaveK]

Tell you what - get them replaced and I'll give you $20 apiece for them

I'll even pay the postage

[Poncho65]

Why don't you try getting a Supertool on Ebay Also the Supertool has a cousin the Core you my friend are how can I put it hard on tools You should have tried LMs heavy duty line before quittin them

[max6166]

That is a bad run, Navajero316. Sorry to hear about that.

From what you said, maybe the Core would be better for you? Someone else mentioned in this thread that their SOG Powerlock seemed much tougher. That might be another option.

I don't have either, by the way. I am just going by their reputations.

Ultimately though, it seems that you *might* be expecting too much of these tools. Maybe not. It could just be extremely bad luck.

Maybe we should start another thread and try to figure out exactly what the toughest multitool is? 

[AndyTiedye]

OK, so, perhaps I will NOT be carrying my Wave anymore.  Everytime I try to give my Leathermans the benefit of the doubt, they fail me.…I guess from now on, I will sink or swim with my Swisstool.

Has your Swisstool survived your use so far?

[Sea Monster]

Has your Swisstool survived your use so far?

I see where this is going!

I'm not interested in your (Or Dunc's) weaselly insinuations!

[LatinoHeat]

Has your Swisstool survived your use so far?

I see where this is going!

I'm not interested in your (Or Dunc's) weaselly insinuations!

LOL.  Hate to do this to ya, Nomad, but YES my Swisstool has hung tough.  No problem.   However, like I said earlier, so has my Sideclip.   I do use my tools pretty hard, although not necessarily recklessly.  I mean, I don't use the tools to do things they were not meant to do.  That to me would be misuse.  However, I do work them hard, and like I said, while the monsterous Swisstool has hung tough, so has the smaller Sideclip, and it's gotten torqued and used as much as my others.  I'm just thinking, and this is just my novice opinion, that the Leatherman, with all their extras, have developed weak spots.  Some have suggested the Core, but it was the hinge on the lock that went on my Blast, and I believe the same spot on the Core is a bit thinner.  The bit driver is what went on my Wave.  I think the locks (which I am all for, by the way) and driver bits have added unstable areas in these tools.  The Swisstool, with it's small springs, hangs tough because the springs are integrated inside the tool.  The Sideclip doesn't have locks, springs, bit drivers, etc.  Both have full length tools, and so there are fewer things to break.  Sure, one can break a driver itself, or a plier head, but like I said, I don't misuse my tools, just use them hard, and I just think the tools I have selected aren't up to the amount of work I demand of them.  For now, the Swisstool is all I need.  If anything happens to it, I will try a SOG. 

[BIG-TARGET]

I have a Kick and while it does feel light it never failed me. I doubt it's as heavy duty as a Supertool but it's certainly no slouch. I never worried about breaking it.

I keep a Kick among my diabetic supplies. I use the wire cutter to chop up my insulin needles after using them. Don't want the needles to fall into the hands of some junkie!!

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I have a Kick and while it does feel light it never failed me. I doubt it's as heavy duty as a Supertool but it's certainly no slouch. I never worried about breaking it.

I keep a Kick among my diabetic supplies. I use the wire cutter to chop up my insulin needles after using them. Don't want the needles to fall into the hands of some junkie!!

Good man , very civic minded of you

[jock1]

Good man , very civic minded of you

Good thought bro in this country they just go to a needle exchange and demand clean ones even if they have left the dirty ones where a child could find them.My friends little boy went through two years of blood tests many moons ago thanks to one of these vermin leaving a dirty needle lying at there disease ridden arse

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Good thought bro in this country they just go to a needle exchange and demand clean ones even if they have left the dirty ones where a child could find them.My friends little boy went through two years of blood tests many moons ago thanks to one of these vermin leaving a dirty needle lying at there disease ridden arse

Here's hoping said vermin has shuffled off his mortal coil now

[Sea Monster]

I've got one of those little black needle cases to prevent woe & peril...

Big Swisstool Rant

Quick Translation: Moving Parts Cannot be trusted.


I concur!

[Poncho65]

I've got one of those little black needle cases to prevent woe & peril...

Big Swisstool Rant

Quick Translation: Moving Parts Cannot be trusted.


I concur!

  nice translation