How are the Swiss military carrying the new Soldiers ?

[Styerman]

Def. posted that it was customary to carry the Alox Soldiers in the breast pocket . What are they doing with the new ones ? I usually carry my Alox SAK's in the left document pocket of my 5-11 shirts , quite comfortable and handy .

Chris

[1jump2many]

Where a soldier carries a knife has more to do with what it's intended use is and what equipment they are wearing.  Years ago when I was in the Army it wasn't a good idea to carry a knife in either top pocket of your BDU "blouse"  Your LBE straps would obstruct the pockets.  I was Airborne and the harness, reserve and rucksack would pretty much make all the pockets on your BDU blouse useless.  We jumped with a Camillus fixed blade knife that we used to strap on our lower leg in case we needed to cut anything.  I carried an SAK for a couple of those years and carried it in my right BDU trouser pocket.  I imagine with the body armour that troops wear today, they aren't carrying anything they need in a hurry on the front pockets of the ACU blouse either.  I would bet the Swiss carry their Soldier in a cargo pocket on the leg of their trousers.  Just a guess though.

1Jump2Many

[Spoonrobot]

Probably clipped to one of their pockets.

oh, wait...

 

[Styerman]

The beast needs a clip in the worst way .

Chris

[Dunc]

The beast needs a clip in the worst way .

Chris

Soldiers would only bend it  The knives have to be soldier proof 



Dunc

[Nikos]

The BO Spirit X CC's come with a low-IR molle sheath. Perhaps Swiss soldiers get such sheaths for their knives as well?

[Neil]

The BO Spirit X CC's come with a low-IR molle sheath. Perhaps Swiss soldiers get such sheaths for their knives as well?

I don't know but that makes sense 

[Styerman]

That would make way too much sence !

Chris

[Guardian]

Hi, they use a belt case.....
http://www.green-store.ch/product_info.php/info/p2875_Swiss-Army---Orginal---Soldatenmesser-08---Etui.html

[Nikos]

Hey, welcome Guardian.

That is/looks-like exactly the same sheath used for the BO-CC-X Spirit. IIRC +B was ranting about these being made in China or something... FWIW I haven't used mine much but it looks of quite decent construction.

[nuphoria]

I like the look of those, not that I ever use sheaths!

Welcome to MTO Guardian 

[Sidhartha]

 

[BIG-TARGET]

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Never underestimate those swiss soldiers!!

[Styerman]

Thanks for the info Guardian , and welcome !

Chris

[bren10man]

Where a soldier carries a knife has more to do with what it's intended use is and what equipment they are wearing.  Years ago when I was in the Army it wasn't a good idea to carry a knife in either top pocket of your BDU "blouse"  Your LBE straps would obstruct the pockets.  I was Airborne and the harness, reserve and rucksack would pretty much make all the pockets on your BDU blouse useless.  We jumped with a Camillus fixed blade knife that we used to strap on our lower leg in case we needed to cut anything.  I carried an SAK for a couple of those years and carried it in my right BDU trouser pocket.  I imagine with the body armour that troops wear today, they aren't carrying anything they need in a hurry on the front pockets of the ACU blouse either.  I would bet the Swiss carry their Soldier in a cargo pocket on the leg of their trousers.  Just a guess though.

1Jump2Many

Well, I am active duty US Army...and I have always carried a SAK with me on and off duty.   I use a bought at the PX a Brigade Quartermaster 3-way pouch (large size) to carry my Champion on my ACU (and used to BDU) pants belt.  For the 08 pattern Soldier, I carry it in a MOLLE pouch ACU pattern that I bough at the PX.  We have lower pants pockets on both left and right pants legs.  My boss (our battalion commander) carries his OHO knife there, because I see the clip sticking outside the pocket.   With the MOLLE system we use now, the places is endless to carry anything: pants belt, body armor, MOLLE vest, etc.  We no longer use the pistol belt.  MLLE replaced that.

[bren10man]

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MMMMMM....SIG 550.....me wants, but I do not have $12K to blow on one....and that was the sticker price for the last one I saw for sale in person 10 years ago at a gunshop in Austin, TX.  The Semi-auto only version was banned from US importation in 1989, along with: Steyr AUG, HK90-series, FN FAL, etc. 

[Zed]

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is that julian clary under that hat  a very camp pose 

[SlackOne]

MMMMMM....SIG 550.....me wants, but I do not have $12K to blow on one....and that was the sticker price for the last one I saw for sale in person 10 years ago at a gunshop in Austin, TX.  The Semi-auto only version was banned from US importation in 1989, along with: Steyr AUG, HK90-series, FN FAL, etc. 

Yeah, but the 556 Classic is fairly readily available for around $2000.  Basically a 550 that takes AR-15 magazines.

[BIG-TARGET]

MMMMMM....SIG 550.....me wants, but I do not have $12K to blow on one....and that was the sticker price for the last one I saw for sale in person 10 years ago at a gunshop in Austin, TX.  The Semi-auto only version was banned from US importation in 1989, along with: Steyr AUG, HK90-series, FN FAL, etc. 

Yeah, but the 556 Classic is fairly readily available for around $2000.  Basically a 550 that takes AR-15 magazines.

Another rifle that take an AR-16/M-16/M-4 magazine!!

The conspiracy thickens!!!

[Ben X]

Yeah it was part of the original contract that the new knife had to have a phillips blade, locking main blade, a saw, and a pouch. Must've had a lot of guys losing them, or they knew the 111mm would absolutely call for a pouch because of the size.

[Guardian]

Thanks for the welcome guys . I have one of the cases. It is very well made and is marked up 'Victorinox' on the front. There is nothing showing 'Made in China' anywhere!!!
On the subject of cases, the Dutch Army supplied one for their troops to carry their DAK Centurion model in and i believe that the German Army have one also; http://www.militaer-outdoor.de/shop/Military-outdoor-Bags-Backpack/Military-outdoor-Bags/knife-bags/Army-pocket-knife::47388.html

[Sazabi]

I have a pair of sheaths from Victorinox that say Made in China on them, though they're for 91mm + flashlight combos. :/

[1jump2many]

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Is is just me or does it seem that Soldier needs to ramp up his Physical Training?  With arms that scrawny he had better be able to shoot straight and not run out of ammo.    

[BIG-TARGET]

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Is is just me or does it seem that Soldier needs to ramp up his Physical Training?  With arms that scrawny he had better be able to shoot straight and not run out of ammo.    

Never underestimate them Swiss grunts.  Word on the street is the whimpy looking soldiers are the ones that could/would mop the floor with you!

[bren10man]

MMMMMM....SIG 550.....me wants, but I do not have $12K to blow on one....and that was the sticker price for the last one I saw for sale in person 10 years ago at a gunshop in Austin, TX.  The Semi-auto only version was banned from US importation in 1989, along with: Steyr AUG, HK90-series, FN FAL, etc. 

Yeah, but the 556 Classic is fairly readily available for around $2000.  Basically a 550 that takes AR-15 magazines.

Thumbs down on the 556.  I have seen them, they came out right before I shipped out to Korea 3 years ago.  I saw them again in 2008 and 2009 when home on leave in the summer.  What folks wanted was a U.S. made 550, and SIG dropped that ball.   Heck, parts kits are available to retrofit a 556 into as close to a 550/551 as you can, like say an HK SL-8 into a G-36 replica.  However, not the same.  I am just happy I have: 2x M1A (M14), 2x M1 Garand, 1x M1 Carbine, 2x AR15 (one in A4 config w/ HBAR, other an M4 style, both Colt), 1x HK-91 (G3, and a pre-ban IB/1981 West German made gun), and STG-556 (U.S. made Steyr AUG).

In 7 days and 1 wake up, I will be back home and will get to play with them to my heart's content!!!!

[Mercury]

Where a soldier carries a knife has more to do with what it's intended use is and what equipment they are wearing.  Years ago when I was in the Army it wasn't a good idea to carry a knife in either top pocket of your BDU "blouse"  Your LBE straps would obstruct the pockets.  I was Airborne and the harness, reserve and rucksack would pretty much make all the pockets on your BDU blouse useless.  We jumped with a Camillus fixed blade knife that we used to strap on our lower leg in case we needed to cut anything.  I carried an SAK for a couple of those years and carried it in my right BDU trouser pocket.  I imagine with the body armour that troops wear today, they aren't carrying anything they need in a hurry on the front pockets of the ACU blouse either.  I would bet the Swiss carry their Soldier in a cargo pocket on the leg of their trousers.  Just a guess though.

1Jump2Many

If it was socially acceptable I would wear black fatigues with a molle leg platform all the time.  I find that civilian clothes are so restrictive when it comes to being prepared.  My work uniform is ridiculous.  I am the Transportation Supervisor for my Resort, but the owners want all managers to look like their subordinates so it looks like we have more staff on duty, therefor I look like a friggin Bellman.  I don't ever do any Bell runs, and I valet the occasional car, but for the most part I am in charge of overseeing operations and ensuring the Fleet of buses and Escalades are running properly and looking good.  I NEED my Multitool, but due to my stupid uniform I have to carry a kick(my least favorite), instead of the Charge or ST300 that I should be carrying.  I have to carry my flashlight in a belt pouch that is on my belt at the small of my back because it pushes my shirt out anywhere else.  My OH blade is clipped next to my wallet in my RRP.  It isn't very comfortable but I don't have any other place to carry it.

Well, I am active duty US Army...and I have always carried a SAK with me on and off duty.   I use a bought at the PX a Brigade Quartermaster 3-way pouch (large size) to carry my Champion on my ACU (and used to BDU) pants belt.  For the 08 pattern Soldier, I carry it in a MOLLE pouch ACU pattern that I bough at the PX.  We have lower pants pockets on both left and right pants legs.  My boss (our battalion commander) carries his OHO knife there, because I see the clip sticking outside the pocket.   With the MOLLE system we use now, the places is endless to carry anything: pants belt, body armor, MOLLE vest, etc.  We no longer use the pistol belt.  MLLE replaced that.

[1jump2many]

Is is just me or does it seem that Soldier needs to ramp up his Physical Training?  With arms that scrawny he had better be able to shoot straight and not run out of ammo.    

Never underestimate them Swiss grunts.  Word on the street is the whimpy looking soldiers are the ones that could/would mop the floor with you!

   I think that would be a chance I'd have to take.  I spent over 8 years as a US Army Paratrooper and in those years trained with units from many different NATO countries.  Trained with them, drank with them and even fought with some of them.  Never got "mopped" up by any of them though.