First go at wooden scales,

[DaveK]

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Mine still sat next to my computer

[ryan1835]

some of the exotic woods ARE nasty, from when i was researching making a guitar i found out a few that your want to wear protection when working with.

this should cover most of them

http://www.hse.gov.uk/PUBNS/wis30.pdf

the last page

[Mercury]

That looks really good Zed!  I have got to remember to start taking pictures of my mods and builds as I do them.  I did a Vic Classic in wood scales a couple weeks ago and I should have posted it.  Next one for sure!

[Zed]

That looks really good Zed!  I have got to remember to start taking pictures of my mods and builds as I do them.  I did a Vic Classic in wood scales a couple weeks ago and I should have posted it.  Next one for sure!

cheers mate, and yes post them up i need ideas 

[Taninaree]

Great work mate.

[Mercury]

That looks really good Zed!  I have got to remember to start taking pictures of my mods and builds as I do them.  I did a Vic Classic in wood scales a couple weeks ago and I should have posted it.  Next one for sure!

cheers mate, and yes post them up i need ideas 

For my first wood scale mod, I kinda cheated.  I took a cheap freebie SAK classic knock off with wood scales that were way too big, and I sanded them to fit a real classic.  I had to reprofile the ends and adjust the cutouts so it was like starting a mod halfway through.  It ended up ok, but nothing to write home about. 

I then proceeded to disassemble a Vic Camper, cleaned it, and reassembled it as a Spartan.  It worked very well except I over peened the backspring tools rivet, so they bind slightly.  I am practicing more and more.  My very first mod was a Cybertool 34 turned Supertinker with cyberdriver in it.  Rotokid had to fix that one, as I had no spare pinstock and no real idea of what I did wrong. 

[Gareth]

That looks really good Zed!  I have got to remember to start taking pictures of my mods and builds as I do them.  I did a Vic Classic in wood scales a couple weeks ago and I should have posted it.  Next one for sure!

cheers mate, and yes post them up i need ideas 

For my first wood scale mod, I kinda cheated.  I took a cheap freebie SAK classic knock off with wood scales that were way too big, and I sanded them to fit a real classic.  I had to reprofile the ends and adjust the cutouts so it was like starting a mod halfway through.  It ended up ok, but nothing to write home about. 

I then proceeded to disassemble a Vic Camper, cleaned it, and reassembled it as a Spartan.  It worked very well except I over peened the backspring tools rivet, so they bind slightly.  I am practicing more and more.  My very first mod was a Cybertool 34 turned Supertinker with cyberdriver in it.  Rotokid had to fix that one, as I had no spare pinstock and no real idea of what I did wrong. 

I wouldn't worry about it mate, it's all a learning curve.  With a little more practice you'll get a good feel as how much more peening is needed.  Until then: hit-check-hit-check-hit-check-hit-check-etc.  It takes a bit longer but you shouldn't end up with binding tools that you'll want to re-do.

If it bothers you, you could always just remove the one pin.  Neil did a good guide here;

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,9057.0.html

[Benner]

Nice one buddy. 

[Mercury]

That looks really good Zed!  I have got to remember to start taking pictures of my mods and builds as I do them.  I did a Vic Classic in wood scales a couple weeks ago and I should have posted it.  Next one for sure!

cheers mate, and yes post them up i need ideas 

For my first wood scale mod, I kinda cheated.  I took a cheap freebie SAK classic knock off with wood scales that were way too big, and I sanded them to fit a real classic.  I had to reprofile the ends and adjust the cutouts so it was like starting a mod halfway through.  It ended up ok, but nothing to write home about. 

I then proceeded to disassemble a Vic Camper, cleaned it, and reassembled it as a Spartan.  It worked very well except I over peened the backspring tools rivet, so they bind slightly.  I am practicing more and more.  My very first mod was a Cybertool 34 turned Supertinker with cyberdriver in it.  Rotokid had to fix that one, as I had no spare pinstock and no real idea of what I did wrong. 

I wouldn't worry about it mate, it's all a learning curve.  With a little more practice you'll get a good feel as how much more peening is needed.  Until then: hit-check-hit-check-hit-check-hit-check-etc.  It takes a bit longer but you shouldn't end up with binding tools that you'll want to re-do.

If it bothers you, you could always just remove the one pin.  Neil did a good guide here;

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,9057.0.html

I thought about removing just the one pin, and then a very vivid reminder came to me, an image of the corkscrew and small blade shooting straight out of the knife as I tried to preload the knife spring.  Still haven't found that corkscrew...  Maybe I should check the ceiling!

[Mercury]

That is genius!  I just checked out Neils walk through, and I think I will try it on my spartan as soon as my pin stock arrives from Tom in the mail.  the mod I am getting back from him has a back spring Phillips that I want to swap for a corkscrew, problem is, the knife is a four layer with a cybertool layer in it.  Hints/tips would be welcome!

[Gareth]

That is genius!  I just checked out Neils walk through, and I think I will try it on my spartan as soon as my pin stock arrives from Tom in the mail.  the mod I am getting back from him has a back spring Phillips that I want to swap for a corkscrew, problem is, the knife is a four layer with a cybertool layer in it.  Hints/tips would be welcome!

I have to admit the thickest SAK I've done this on was just two layers so I'm not sure how easy four layers would be.  A good general tip though is to make sure that you put a long, thin taper on the rod to be tapped into place.  It means that the liners and tools don't have to be absolutely perfectly lined up, just very nearly so.

[Mercury]

That is genius!  I just checked out Neils walk through, and I think I will try it on my spartan as soon as my pin stock arrives from Tom in the mail.  the mod I am getting back from him has a back spring Phillips that I want to swap for a corkscrew, problem is, the knife is a four layer with a cybertool layer in it.  Hints/tips would be welcome!

I have to admit the thickest SAK I've done this on was just two layers so I'm not sure how easy four layers would be.  A good general tip though is to make sure that you put a long, thin taper on the rod to be tapped into place.  It means that the liners and tools don't have to be absolutely perfectly lined up, just very nearly so.

Yea, rebuilding this one the first time drove me bonkers!  I almost had it, I just over peened one of the rivets and bent it.  Tom told me that the cybertool layer is the hardest to mod, so I don't feel that bad.  I plan on modding a wenger can opener to fit in a Vic, I am not sure how the spring will need to look for that.  I will be sure to let you know!

[Zed]

cheers gareth for the link, and thanks neil for the pm 

[Neil]

Even with practise mods go wrong   This afternoon I thought I was finishing off a four layer 93mm ..... All went well until I checked the scissors layer, no snap     I'm actually pretty annoyed as I've had to drill out the pins and pull the whole thing apart again.  I know what I did wrong but that isn't making me feel any better right now 

[Zed]

Even with practise mods go wrong   This afternoon I thought I was finishing off a four layer 93mm ..... All went well until I checked the scissors layer, no snap     I'm actually pretty annoyed as I've had to drill out the pins and pull the whole thing apart again.  I know what I did wrong but that isn't making me feel any better right now 

  i bet that was annoying Neil, ill stick with scales at the moment i think, 

[Neil]

I've given in with it for the day before I do something rash with it    Its using parts I can't easily replace if I muck it up big style 

[DaveK]

I've given in with it for the day before I do something rash with it    Its using parts I can't easily replace if I muck it up big style 

Garage door job?

[Mercury]

I can't redo anything until my box of goodies gets here from rotokid.  I feel ya though neil, I have had to do that, only I couldn't recover it!

[Neil]

I've given in with it for the day before I do something rash with it    Its using parts I can't easily replace if I muck it up big style 

Garage door job?

  That is the traditional response but fortunately I don't have a garage

[DaveK]

Although it is always followed by remorse, there are few things more satisfying (for a second at least) than wanging a non-conforming SAK at the garage door!

Usually accompanied by a ritual "chant" that rhymes with clucking bell......

[Benner]

Ah yes, the old "lob it as hard as you can whilst screaming at it" jobbie.    Almost as satisfying as the "punch it as hard as you can because you banged yourself on it" one. 

[Gareth]

Although it is always followed by remorse, there are few things more satisfying (for a second at least) than wanging a non-conforming SAK at the garage door!

Usually accompanied by a ritual "chant" that rhymes with clucking bell......

 

Even with practise mods go wrong   This afternoon I thought I was finishing off a four layer 93mm ..... All went well until I checked the scissors layer, no snap     I'm actually pretty annoyed as I've had to drill out the pins and pull the whole thing apart again.  I know what I did wrong but that isn't making me feel any better right now 

If it's not to soon, can I ask what went wrong?  Far easier to learn from others mistakes I find.

[Mercury]

I'm not allowed to throw things anymore...  My wife gets angry! 

I just take a step back, gooz fraba, and my left eye twitches for some reason, but I feel better!   

[Neil]

Although it is always followed by remorse, there are few things more satisfying (for a second at least) than wanging a non-conforming SAK at the garage door!

Usually accompanied by a ritual "chant" that rhymes with clucking bell......

 

Even with practise mods go wrong   This afternoon I thought I was finishing off a four layer 93mm ..... All went well until I checked the scissors layer, no snap     I'm actually pretty annoyed as I've had to drill out the pins and pull the whole thing apart again.  I know what I did wrong but that isn't making me feel any better right now 

If it's not to soon, can I ask what went wrong?  Far easier to learn from others mistakes I find.

Way too soon  <looks at tray of parts and seethes>

Oh, OK

I finished peening and didn't like the look of the head on the middle pin.  The edge had chipped out, functionally fine but ugly.  I don't do functional but ugly so decided to replace the pin.  As you know you can do this without stripping the knife down but you have to be careful.  Anyways, I wasn't careful and slightly bent the new pin going in.   I'm just hoping that when I put it together again that I haven't damaged the liners. This would normally be bad but on this occasion it would be very bad as they are all brass 

[Mercury]

Although it is always followed by remorse, there are few things more satisfying (for a second at least) than wanging a non-conforming SAK at the garage door!

Usually accompanied by a ritual "chant" that rhymes with clucking bell......

 

Even with practise mods go wrong   This afternoon I thought I was finishing off a four layer 93mm ..... All went well until I checked the scissors layer, no snap     I'm actually pretty annoyed as I've had to drill out the pins and pull the whole thing apart again.  I know what I did wrong but that isn't making me feel any better right now 

If it's not to soon, can I ask what went wrong?  Far easier to learn from others mistakes I find.

Way too soon  <looks at tray of parts and seethes>

Oh, OK

I finished peening and didn't like the look of the head on the middle pin.  The edge had chipped out, functionally fine but ugly.  I don't do functional but ugly so decided to replace the pin.  As you know you can do this without stripping the knife down but you have to be careful.  Anyways, I wasn't careful and slightly bent the new pin going in.   I'm just hoping that when I put it together again that I haven't damaged the liners. This would normally be bad but on this occasion it would be very bad as they are all brass 

My condolences Neil, I hope she pulls through.   

Sounds like the typical crap that happens to me!

[Gareth]

Although it is always followed by remorse, there are few things more satisfying (for a second at least) than wanging a non-conforming SAK at the garage door!

Usually accompanied by a ritual "chant" that rhymes with clucking bell......

 

Even with practise mods go wrong   This afternoon I thought I was finishing off a four layer 93mm ..... All went well until I checked the scissors layer, no snap     I'm actually pretty annoyed as I've had to drill out the pins and pull the whole thing apart again.  I know what I did wrong but that isn't making me feel any better right now 

If it's not to soon, can I ask what went wrong?  Far easier to learn from others mistakes I find.

Way too soon  <looks at tray of parts and seethes>

Oh, OK

I finished peening and didn't like the look of the head on the middle pin.  The edge had chipped out, functionally fine but ugly.  I don't do functional but ugly so decided to replace the pin.  As you know you can do this without stripping the knife down but you have to be careful.  Anyways, I wasn't careful and slightly bent the new pin going in.   I'm just hoping that when I put it together again that I haven't damaged the liners. This would normally be bad but on this occasion it would be very bad as they are all brass 

Ah OK, that truly sucks.   If it's any consolation I'd have had to do something about the ugly pin as well, I can just about live with it if it's under a scale, but I couldn't be happy with it out on display.  I really hope the liners are OK.

[Neil]

If it was under a scale (unless translucent) I would have left it alone as mechanically it was sound.  I'd even have left it with a slight split at the circumference, it is a hand finished product after all but a chip is just bad

I should have bit the bullet and pulled the thing apart there and then instead of taking a shortcut.  We live and learn

[Argento]

I hope its ok if i post that here. Made some scales from Micarta for my Wenger, handles were falling apart anyway.


Came out quite nice, although i could had done a better job, i wanted do get over with

Best wishes
Robert

[Gareth]

That looks like a good job Robert.