A bike for Def!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **on:** August 06, 2007, 09:12:25 AM

I've just found the perfect bike for Def, I'd like to see him break one of these in a hurry ;D

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/surly-pugsley/

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2007, 02:41:07 PM

Nice- I even like the color!

I started to worry when I saw that it was for Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard, two places that people like me only go to cater the parties of rich people!

Then I saw the price at the bottom, and, well I have to say that I think maybe I am better off trashing a bunch of cheaper bikes instead!

It is a nice concept though- I do like the "tank on wheels" motif. It kind of reminds me of the old Motocross style bike I had in the 80's. It was a bicycle but had all these plastic addons to make it look like a dirt bike, and the darn thing weighed about as much as a motorbike!

Def

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:58:39 PM

You can't go wrong with a Surly...there's a lot of good buzz about them.Owners love them,and apparently rock solid rugged.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:35:53 PM

Yeah, but for that cost it bloody well make my breakfast too!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #4 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:44:50 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 05:35:53 PM

Yeah, but for that cost it bloody well make my breakfast too!

Def

they are fearsomely expensive and unless you live in a bog, your never gona need tyres like that

But i bet there tough as old boots!

me i want one of these...

http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/rohloffexp.html

I'm thinking when my son gets older, maybe getting a couple of these or a tandem and me and him doing some serious exploring, maybe doing the road of bones in russia?

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:50:38 PM

I like the classic looks of the Thorn bike, but wouldn't it be better to have a recumbent bike to tour a place like Russia?

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2007, 06:14:20 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 05:50:38 PM

I like the classic looks of the Thorn bike, but wouldn't it be better to have a recumbent bike to tour a place like Russia?

Def

Not where i,ve got in mind ;D

Don,t see a recumbent being much use here

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2007, 06:17:30 PM

Good point...

Although for something like that the only thing I can see being really useful is an old Lada Cossack!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #8 on:** August 06, 2007, 06:52:21 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 06:17:30 PM

Good point...

Although for something like that the only thing I can see being really useful is an old Lada Cossack!

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Def

am I the only one who thinks they've a certain charm?

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2007, 06:56:00 PM

You kidding me? I love Cossacks and Nivas, and at low speeds, they out-torque a 4.0L Jeep Wrangler!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:00:56 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 06:56:00 PM

You kidding me? I love Cossacks and Nivas, and at low speeds, they out-torque a 4.0L Jeep Wrangler!

Def

my teacher at school had one and i was always impressed by there basic but robust engineering

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:06:49 PM

typical russian engineering, everything could be fixed with a 3 inch spanner ;D

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:51:41 PM

Quote from: micky d on August 06, 2007, 07:06:49 PM

typical russian engineering, everything could be fixed with a 3 inch spanner ;D

Well that and a hammer too.T-34 drivers found a hammer a useful thing to shift gears in WW2

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:54:00 PM

Quote from: micky d on August 06, 2007, 06:14:20 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 05:50:38 PM
I like the classic looks of the Thorn bike, but wouldn't it be better to have a recumbent bike to tour a place like Russia?

Def
Not where i,ve got in mind ;D

Don,t see a recumbent being much use here

Hitch on a trailer,and Def can bring the kayak....and a barrel of mosquito repellant.

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2007, 08:00:48 PM

Quote from: micky d on August 06, 2007, 05:44:50 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 05:35:53 PM
Yeah, but for that cost it bloody well make my breakfast too!

Def
they are fearsomely expensive and unless you live in a bog, your never gona need tyres like that

But i bet there tough as old boots!

me i want one of these...

http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/rohloffexp.html

I'm thinking when my son gets older, maybe getting a couple of these or a tandem and me and him doing some serious exploring, maybe doing the road of bones in russia?

There must certainly be a different philosophy towards touring bikes in Europe.I've seen a Koga-Miyata kitted out similarly. Most North American tourers are more like road bikes with beefier components.The Surly Long Haul Trucker is becoming the champ in that segment of the sport here Stateside.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #15 on:** August 06, 2007, 11:45:12 PM

Quote from: Bison56 on August 06, 2007, 08:00:48 PM

Quote from: micky d on August 06, 2007, 05:44:50 PM
Quote from: Defender on August 06, 2007, 05:35:53 PM
Yeah, but for that cost it bloody well make my breakfast too!

Def
they are fearsomely expensive and unless you live in a bog, your never gona need tyres like that

But i bet there tough as old boots!

me i want one of these...

http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/rohloffexp.html

I'm thinking when my son gets older, maybe getting a couple of these or a tandem and me and him doing some serious exploring, maybe doing the road of bones in russia?
There must certainly be a different philosophy towards touring bikes in Europe.I've seen a Koga-Miyata kitted out similarly. Most North American tourers are more like road bikes with beefier components.The Surly Long Haul Trucker is becoming the champ in that segment of the sport here Stateside.

Your average european tourer is usually an over built audax bike, typically they have steel frames.

the thorn on the other hand is an expedition bike and is designed, and has actually has gone round the world.

Everything is beefed up to the point of indestructability, all the components are either totally reliable and crashproof or are easy for a complete numptie to fix. and best of all the frames are normally made from good ole reynolds 531 STEEL, none of this aluminium or carbon fibre malarkey ;D

But then a top spec one will cost you almost £3000!

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2007, 12:41:11 AM

Brand new a Lada Cossack costs about that too!

Def

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2007, 04:40:12 AM

Micky,I'm with you 100% Steel rules the roads! I love the shock absorbing properties of steel,and to me a good steel frame gives a friendlier,more responsive ride than any other material.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2007, 10:21:26 AM

Quote from: Defender on August 07, 2007, 12:41:11 AM

Brand new a Lada Cossack costs about that too!

Def

You get better fuel economy on the bike

;D

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2007, 10:24:52 AM

Quote from: Bison56 on August 07, 2007, 04:40:12 AM

Micky,I'm with you 100% Steel rules the roads! I love the shock absorbing properties of steel,and to me a good steel frame gives a friendlier,more responsive ride than any other material.

Plus if the worst happens, even some third world mechanic should be able to weld it up for you

some of the new carbon fibre bike can't even be droped with out breaking amd they can be as much as £9000

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2007, 04:14:44 PM

That to me is worth more than anything else when on the trail, whether it be a bike, a truck, kayak or whatever. I'd much rather have something that is easily (or relatively easily) repaired rather than something that's "indestructable" because, well, you all know my reputation!

As for the Lada, yeah it probably is less fuel efficient than the bike, but it has more cargo space and you stay dry inside!

Plus it has rear windshield defrosters to keep your hands warm when you have to push it!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2007, 09:02:03 PM

Quote from: Defender on August 07, 2007, 04:14:44 PM

That to me is worth more than anything else when on the trail, whether it be a bike, a truck, kayak or whatever. I'd much rather have something that is easily (or relatively easily) repaired rather than something that's "indestructable" because, well, you all know my reputation!

As for the Lada, yeah it probably is less fuel efficient than the bike, but it has more cargo space and you stay dry inside! Plus it has rear windshield defrosters to keep your hands warm when you have to push it!

Def

to true mate , I,m a hand,s on spanner man so i hate needless complication in things ;D

except i,d still go with a hub obviously

;D